Hi, 75kg male, early 30s here
I've read a few reports suggesting 4-fa and methylone is a very nice combination, so having both to hand I thought i'd give it a go. I really like 4-fa, even in preference to more powerful, more obviously euphoric drugs (although recent experience has led me to believe I should perhaps try to push the doses higher and this might occur!), but it has a rather long stimulatory phase after the initial euphoria, which I like, but I think would be nice supplemented with something more. Methylone I also like a great deal, although I think it's short duration is a bit annoying. I've never experienced any sort of bad effects from either drug in isolation, not even when redosing methylone several times.
So, I do 120mg 4-fa, chat to some people, become all nice and sociable so organise going to the pub and having a few drinks. Before I leave i wrap up 120mg methylone, and take that with me, although in the midst of the 4-fa happy time, I don't ever feel the need for more drugs. I think this might be the cause of my later problems, as most people reporting on this combination take the methylone shortly after the 4-fa come up, whereas I've been concerned that might be overwhelming instead of the pleasant floaty joy.
A couple of hours after being at the pub, maybe 2-3 pints of alcohol (I tend not to drink heavily on stimulants as I both have no desire to, and I feel it masks some of the nicer effects) The 4-fa glow is starting to fade into the mellow speedy end portion, so I take 120mg Methylone.
While I'd notice some effect from 120mg methylone (depending on how many similar drugs I have been doing in close proximity) I'd usually dose at about 160-180mg if it was by itself, for a pleasant high without any strange dizzy inducing come ups. It's worth noting that my first few trys with methylone worked equally as well at much lower doses (even 70mg by itself had me marvelling at how NICE everything was, without being particularly strong)
30-40 minutes or so pass, and I find myself unable to concentrate on the conversation, and was relieved when a friend of mine wanted to go out for a cigarette so I could cool down. I was sweating, obviously elevated body temperature (After recieving a hug someone told me I was REALLY REALLY warm!) Essentially no euphoria at all was noticed in this test. Stayed out, even though I was feeling pretty spaced out for an hour or so, until relatively quickly even those effects from the methylone wore off, and I just felt annoyed, sober, and come-downy.
All in all, I'd probably never do this combo again, as redosing 4-fa works very nicely, and I don't think I'd want to test doing the methylone earlier in the experience, as I never feel the 4-fa experience is lacking until the end.
I would however, be interested in anyone elses experiences with this combination, because it does seem rather popular! In particular, are you dosing at much lower levels when doing both? and are you doing them at the same time? I think for a synchronised come-up you'd need to do the methylone 10 minutes or so later, but I'm not sure about this.
I've read a few reports suggesting 4-fa and methylone is a very nice combination, so having both to hand I thought i'd give it a go. I really like 4-fa, even in preference to more powerful, more obviously euphoric drugs (although recent experience has led me to believe I should perhaps try to push the doses higher and this might occur!), but it has a rather long stimulatory phase after the initial euphoria, which I like, but I think would be nice supplemented with something more. Methylone I also like a great deal, although I think it's short duration is a bit annoying. I've never experienced any sort of bad effects from either drug in isolation, not even when redosing methylone several times.
So, I do 120mg 4-fa, chat to some people, become all nice and sociable so organise going to the pub and having a few drinks. Before I leave i wrap up 120mg methylone, and take that with me, although in the midst of the 4-fa happy time, I don't ever feel the need for more drugs. I think this might be the cause of my later problems, as most people reporting on this combination take the methylone shortly after the 4-fa come up, whereas I've been concerned that might be overwhelming instead of the pleasant floaty joy.
A couple of hours after being at the pub, maybe 2-3 pints of alcohol (I tend not to drink heavily on stimulants as I both have no desire to, and I feel it masks some of the nicer effects) The 4-fa glow is starting to fade into the mellow speedy end portion, so I take 120mg Methylone.
While I'd notice some effect from 120mg methylone (depending on how many similar drugs I have been doing in close proximity) I'd usually dose at about 160-180mg if it was by itself, for a pleasant high without any strange dizzy inducing come ups. It's worth noting that my first few trys with methylone worked equally as well at much lower doses (even 70mg by itself had me marvelling at how NICE everything was, without being particularly strong)
30-40 minutes or so pass, and I find myself unable to concentrate on the conversation, and was relieved when a friend of mine wanted to go out for a cigarette so I could cool down. I was sweating, obviously elevated body temperature (After recieving a hug someone told me I was REALLY REALLY warm!) Essentially no euphoria at all was noticed in this test. Stayed out, even though I was feeling pretty spaced out for an hour or so, until relatively quickly even those effects from the methylone wore off, and I just felt annoyed, sober, and come-downy.
All in all, I'd probably never do this combo again, as redosing 4-fa works very nicely, and I don't think I'd want to test doing the methylone earlier in the experience, as I never feel the 4-fa experience is lacking until the end.
I would however, be interested in anyone elses experiences with this combination, because it does seem rather popular! In particular, are you dosing at much lower levels when doing both? and are you doing them at the same time? I think for a synchronised come-up you'd need to do the methylone 10 minutes or so later, but I'm not sure about this.