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Effects list of K2 Summit

I'm sorry about that yeah I did mean "depersonalization" sorry. For me I smoked weed around 8 or 10 times and I would sometimes get anxious or really relaxed, but I would always wake up the next day fine. I have also been drunk when I smoked weed as for synthetic weed I took one hit and It literally shut my body down. My friend had to help me stand up and walk to the bathroom so I could vomit. I haven't touched it or weed since that night which has been 5 months only drank alcohol. For me the first month after that night was bad to the point I considered justing ending it all. Finally it started to slowly get better to the point now were I don't fell the same as before that night, but I'm better. I honesty don't think I will ever feel the same way again, but I always hold out hope if not I still have to get on with my life. Trust me you are not the only one through internet searches I have found so many other people that have been negatively effected by this substance.

My symptoms or were
-headaches
-pressure in head
-pain from jaw to temples
-insomnia
-light headiness
-dizzy
-anxiety
-depression
-depersonalization ( feel like I'm in a dream and nothing is real)
-vision issues ( I felt like I couldn't take in everything around me and I had to close my eyes)
-High heart rate and blood pressure
 
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Hi Forums1969, we have had some similar issues. After my panic attack, this is what has happened, I will write still occurring for the ones still present.I never had health issues prior to this. I was in GREAT shape, worked out, played sports, and have a career. Its been 78 days since I had a panic attack and quit.

-Loss of appetite that lasted the very first 5 days, I lost 11-13lbs in that times, couldnt eat anything, drink barely any water also.

-pain in jaw, sharp, didnt go to head, but hurt when I moved jaw, lasted 2-3 days in the beginning, still comes and goes every now again for a couple minutes.

-Various body aches/joint pains that come and go, seems everyday something else hurts. Still occurs.

-Chest pains located around the right and left breast area which was really bad the first month, has lessened and occurs maybe 1-2 times a week now. The first month I also had a feeling as though my lungs were burning (like when you breathe in a chemical) when I breathed in.

-my vision issues (the first 2 weeks, I couldnt even watch tv, it made me sick due to the motion and the fast pace of the shots, also the voices from the tv/music got to me, than for a month after that cleared up, everything such as street signs etc was blurry, finally getting better.)

- SEVERE anxiety, I was/am hyper sensitive, adrenaline kicked off panic in me for the first 30 days. I even got an attack while playing Super Mario Bros on Wii with my wife and watching movies, it was that bad.

-Breathing issues (the first 7 days after the panic attack I felt as though if I didnt concentrate on breathing, I wouldnt breathe on my own. That was the strangest feeling I ever felt, I really thought death was imminent.) Since then, I have had shortness of breath out of nowhere. I still work out and am generally fine, but at times when I go to bed or just lying in the recliner it feels as though I cannot get enough air into my lungs. Also still to this day, if there is a scent such as perfume or a candle burning, it feels as though I am suffocating from the scent as weird as that sounds, like I get sick from the smell and worry about not getting the air in.

- Some severe boughts of lightheadedness where it felt as though I was gonna pass out, never felt that way before either. I have never fainted but I have felt as though I was gonna collapse a few times in the past 78 days since I quit, most recently 2 weeks ago while at work. Felt tingling through my whole body, stood up and legs were like jello and had to hang on to the wall.

-When I first quit, I slept 15 hours a night the first 2 weeks, since then, I fall asleep fine, but I awaken a minimum 5-6 times a night, EVERY night still going on.

-Still get a fluttery feeling in my chest and worrisome thoughts, sort of the fear that I will never be ok.

- I also have been getting irritated easily and erupt with anger out of nowhere when normally I was extremely laid back and mellow, now I feel like Bobby Knight at times (the old coach for Indiana University)


My blood pressure and heart rate are perfect. I have had a slew of medical tests. I had a Chest Xray, Stress test, Pulmonary Function Test, Echocardiogram, every blood test, urine tests etc. Everything checks out great, except one of my liver enzymes was slightly elevated, the ALT enzyme. BP is 113/76, resting pulse is 66-70, and my pulse ox is 99-100%. So everything looks good. I am still debating on whether or not to have a CT scan of my chest just to be sure, but I am waiting a little bit to see if I improve.

Have you seen a dr? Did they prescribe anything? My doctor gave me 0.25mg xanax which I have barely touched, just maybe 1 pill a week, I am trying to battle through this on my own. He also gave me some Lexapro which he said can help if I need it, but if I start, it would be for 1 year. I am holding off on that as I feel I am improving, but still have some rough days each week. I would say each week is about half and half on feeling good. I still cannot listen to my fast paced music as it gets my heart going and it feels extremely weird, sort of brings my mind back to the panic attack I had. I am trying to get passed this but I am still trying to find others that may of been through this and HAVE gotten better as I need some positive reinforcement. Good luck.
 
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My only issue that I've come across with the JWH series (and this is after MONTHS of everyday, all day abuse) is the EXTREME anxiety that stems from even the slightest doses. I'd freak out over just the thought of not being sober, but I'd keep using it.

And I would definitely not put this chemical in the same realm as marijuana. It is much more psychedelic and less recreational than bud. Taking the JWH's is like a gamble. You're experience can either be very memorable and "different" for lack of a better term, or it can be a panic filled wreck.

If you're going to try them, don't do 018. That's the worst, most mentally clouding, depressing, anxiety packed shit-hole trip you could put yourself through.
I'd recommend JWH-081 or JWH-122....

Either way, I quit that shit months ago.
 
well...another update....today i have the fuzzy feeling in my head....as tho...my brain is continuing to heal itself...no headaches...they are pretty much gone for the most part...no insomnia are loss of appetite...still eat like im a growing kid....(29 years of age btw)....i do get depressed time to time...but i know that is stemming from not being able to find work....and not from use of this trash....i find that the best remedy for this stuff is to stay active...to just keep it moving...it takes your mind off idle...yesterday...i decided to play some basketball...which was great...im glad i did it...seems like it helped alot....might even play again today....i wish everyone the best ridding themselves of this garbage and a speedy recovery...you will feel better sooner or later...hopefully its sooner than later...the kid...
 
@thekidson- You never let us know how much you smoked, how long you smoked, how often you smoked and how long you have been quit. Thanks
 
hi birdman...i smoked it heavily...i would say i at least smoked 3 grams in 2 days....i was on it bad...when i first started...i smoked it occasionally....but then i started smoking it how i smoke weed...which is constant bowl after bowl...i would say i roughly consumed 3-4 ounces of it.. maybe more in about a 3 month period or so...this is an apprx. number....i have not smoked any of the stuff in 3 weeks...it was ok at first...did the job no problem...but as i started smoking it like i do some good tree...i started getting horrible headaches with a "brain melt" experience...but yet...i was an idiot and kept indulging....the feeling in my head became so bad i said enough is enough....i still get the slight headaches here and there...but they are mostly gone...i have a little one right now as im typin this....i started taking a multi vitamin as well...that seems to also help a bit...the kid...
 
Thanks thekidson. It will prove to be beneficial if more people who have had negative side effects posted like that, that way people can compare what they did. In case you didnt know, I smoked for 1 year, at 3g a week, about 160g in total of various store bought blends. Thanks
 
no problem birdman...i myself was buying several different blends...i was buying all mine off the internet....i believe some blends are more "hot" than others...im glad i have stopped using this stuff...i have taken steps to try and be a bit more healthy...and will just stick to good ol marijuana!!!...just 5 more months and im home free...the only thing im having trouble changing is my eating habits...still loving burgers and fries and all that good greasy stuff!...did you try going to a chiropractor at all?...ive been to one...that also seems to help with things as well...but like ive posted before...ive found out the best thing is just to keep busy and stay off idle...that REALLY helps...how are your symptoms coming along??...are you feeling any better?
 
@thekidson- I am feeling better than the first month, but I am not near 100% yet. I am probably at around 80% right now in how I feel. I am hoping that by the 6 month mark, I will be loads better. I have changed alot too. I havent drank any soda in this time span, sticking to water and fruit juices. I also havent consumed fast food more than a couple times when I used to eat it 3x a week on average. Sticking to homemade lunches and dinners now and eating lots of fruits and whatnot. Also added a multivitamin to my diet in hopes it will help. Thanks
 
I just wish I knew what happened to me and what it did to my body that way I would be a lot less worried about it. It is just not knowing that scares me the most and that the chemical is only 15 years old.
 
the reason why doctors aren't figuring out what's wrong is because the headaches are psychosomatic (mind-made). the good news is that that means they're easy to stop (by simply understanding the situation).

intense levels of fear-- such as severe paranoia, terror, and dread-- automatically triggers one's intuition [1], which (due to an inborn function of one's intuition) also triggers new paranoia ... it is the soul frantically looking for itself, yet finding only more fear (because that is what the self/psyche/soul is primarily constituted of).

this level of fear can only be experienced through usage of substances such as jwh-018, or as an accidental byproduct of misusing a type of meditation method [2] ... if arrived at via the latter, it can be understood and thence eliminated easily (hence how i am capable of providing this information) ... if arrived at via the former (jwh-018 or whatever substance), the person has no idea of the cause and so the substance-triggered self-reinforcing fear-loop (which is part and parcel the headaches) can only lessen by chance or by another substance which momentarily weakens one's sense of self / "self-control" (e.g. alcohol). this also explains various intricacies of what people are reporting-- to which i am not going to explain in detail-- regarding miscellaneous paranoid behavior and why random stuff like multi-vitamins are helping (placebo effects are due to the belief of their positive affect on pain one thinks is physical but is actually mental).

the way to weaken (and eventually end) the fear-headaches is to chill the hell out about them and anything you associate with them. especially make sure you aren't believing [3] anything about the headaches, or jwh, or yourself in regard to those, or about the pain itself, or your future because of the pain, etc. (viz.: "ruined my life"). the best way to eliminate the beliefs which are maintaining the headaches is by seeing honestly their contrived nature ... then sincerely allowing yourself to be convinced that the belief is false (and without substituting a new one in its place). for example: change your mind from "jwh-018 ruined my life" to something like "jwh-018 was weird but it's in my past now" (even if it doesn't seem like it's in your past yet, it really is ... any insistence to the contrary is a defense against letting go of the fear / headaches [4])

there might be aversion (read: more fear) when one considers letting go of those beliefs and the resultant feelings ... but rest assured, a relatively tiny amount of doubt is easy to topple if pushed into a proverbial corner, and the rest is easy; one's successes will multiply exponentially until freedom from the pain is the norm. it will disappear like a bad dream ... or a bad headache, as the case may be.

janus

[1] a deep feeling of one's self/soul/psyche
[2] it can be found at http://actualfreedom.com.au/
[3] beliefs provide the pillars of one's emotional world. in this case, it's a relatively hellish, delusional one spurred to creation by an unmanageable experience with a powerful drug
[4] this fear of change, if experienced, stems from the insecurity of the fear already in place ... in other words: fear of letting go because one is already feeling fear
 
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the way to weaken (and eventually end) the fear-headaches is to chill the hell out about them and anything you associate with them. especially make sure you aren't believing [3] anything about the headaches, or jwh, or yourself in regard to those, or about the pain itself, or your future because of the pain, etc. (viz.: "ruined my life")
the headaches are psychosomatic
You've broken your own rules! Tut-tut. I can't be asked to get in a discussion about this freaky-deaky new age shit to be honest, I just thought I'd point out one of the more obvious contradictions.
 
I think that it is psychosomatic, but I also think the drug has caused some of the problems. Whether it is from a chemical imbalance or something else. IMO it is just not worth doing it and I regret ever accidentally trying it for what it is and has put me through. The high is just not worth it just stick to weed.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if some of the ingredients have a cumulative toxic effect, like coltsfoot/ pedicularis species and the pyrrolizidine alkaloids. Sounds like you're doing a lot better and you're also living a lot healthier in general- a nice positive change
 
Any updates from the people out there like me that have been having negative side effects to synthetic weed? I haven't improved very much lately... some days are better then others, but I still hope I will feel normal again. I know it has something to do with anxiety, but instead of I usually would feel from it I now get weird pain and head sensations ( symptoms which anxiety causes). These feelings that I get I am unable to control like I normal could and it really is effecting my quality of life.
 
K2

thats the most detailed shit ever lol and yea i have had some after effects.
the dumb feeling you get when your talking(or maybe its just me idk?) like you know your saying something but have no idea what it is or where your going with it,then forget what you said like 10 seconds later happend to me a day after i smoked it and i was completely sober..so i dont think im ever touching k2 again
 
Stay away from JWH-018.
I recently heard about a test on the news done with K2 that said it causes irreversible brain hemorrhage, and ever since I ordered a gram I have had to try hard to avoid slurring speech.

I've used various JWH's daily for the past five months or so and I haven't noticed any negative side effects whatsoever. I'm not accusing you of making stuff up, but I've never seen anything like this from JWH, and I know many people who use it. Also, to state that it causes irreversible brain hemorrhage is just plain wrong. If you use an idiotic amount (30+mg without a huge tolerance) all bets are off. However, many millions of people use this stuff without catastrophic brain damage. All evidence shows that is it no more dangerous than alcohol.
 
I totally know where you are coming from. i did this stuff for the first time a month ago and i had a stroke because of it. this shit is dangerous and for what i thought would be a good time, turned into a nightmare that is going to affect me the rest of my life. i have to take all this medication now and i thought i was going to be a vegetable the rest of my life. i made an amazing recovery and i will NEVER touch that shit again. its not worth it or my life. and the short term memory problem i have that too and it sucks. i used to smoke ALOT of weed and drink ALOT of alcohol but the affects of that on my brain were nothing compared to one time of doing this stuff. its bad shit and i dont think people know the dangers of it. i hope people reading these will think twice about doing this shit again. im only 22 years old and i had a stroke because of this.
 
I totally know where you are coming from. i did this stuff for the first time a month ago and i had a stroke because of it. this shit is dangerous and for what i thought would be a good time, turned into a nightmare that is going to affect me the rest of my life. i have to take all this medication now and i thought i was going to be a vegetable the rest of my life. i made an amazing recovery and i will NEVER touch that shit again. its not worth it or my life. and the short term memory problem i have that too and it sucks. i used to smoke ALOT of weed and drink ALOT of alcohol but the affects of that on my brain were nothing compared to one time of doing this stuff. its bad shit and i dont think people know the dangers of it. i hope people reading these will think twice about doing this shit again. im only 22 years old and i had a stroke because of this.

How do you know the JWH was the cause of your stroke? Strokes can be the result of many things, from an unhealthy lifestyle to a genetic predisposition. How do you know the JWH was the sole cause of your troubles?
 
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