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RCs good god, MDPV withdrawal after 1000mg binge, seriously?

Again into the boiling nightmare

I thought I had seen the worst life could dish out. I thought I could control this shit. I thought I could control myself. My thoughts, as always, betray me...

This one is going to seem like total bullshit, and honestly I wish it was. I still can not believe what happened this time.

I had a brainstorm called Fuck It, I Wanna Get High. And the shadows delivered a 4-gram package. Since, 1 gram would just never be enough. It only took 36 hours before I was about a gram and a half deep into that demonic powder and the darkest demons on this earth were on my back.

I spent about 2 hours driving in circles like a total maniac trying to dodge these cars that had tinted windows and guys in all dark clothes. I was entirely convinced a shadow agency had finally caught up to me for all the dark deeds I had committed over the years. It could be anything or anyone after all. It could be one of drug dealers i ripped off, it could be a regular people i ripped off, it could be some pimps lookin to even the score, it could be the that dealer i stabbed in the hand when he punched me in the face and tried to take the keys outta my car, it could be internet police who sold me some PV and then followed me around all day trying to see if I would sell it, could be a friend of mine ratted me out to reduce a sentence, could be somebody I ratted out coming back for a vengeance burn. Shit man. Could be you, whoever it was, they were evil, and they had my number.

I was caught up in a frenzy of my own fear. I turned off my phone cuz they were tracking my position.

Now at this point I'm gunning it to mom and pops house. The parents live at the end of a dead end street on a culdesac and they live on several heavily wooded and hilly acres and a small valley and river running through it.

I busted right on in the front door shouting about turn off the lights! My life's in danger! At this point I heard the sound of footsteps on the roof. I was seeing weird people running through the house. My parents were 100% freaked out but did not call the cops. They got me calmed down a little bit and then as I was sitting there I got the evil feeling that my parents were in on some shit to bring me down. I was convinced my parents got paid off and it was only a matter of minutes before death was upon me. I was going to get a bullet in the brain... here it comes... Fuck This! I ran and ducked and dodged and rolled into my dads den to get the rifle (My dad has a bolt action scoped 700) I had my hands on it and my parents ran the fuck outta the house and drove off. Meanwhile I turned off all the lights and peered out the corner of a window into the streets in the front of the house. My heart was pumping burning blood through my veins, I was sweating buckets, my pupils were black as pitch. I was a savage animal and I was going to fuckin survive. I was't goin out like a sucka.

My parents were gone too damn long... and now is when fucked up went right to nightmare. I heard a rumbling sound coming the street. A blacked out snow plow pushed up a big embankment of snow all across the road so I wouldn't be able to drive my outta this. At this point I know the cops are involved. At the same time I hear the sound of a helicopter above me and it's hovering low with a spotlight all over the house. Then the cops are on the loudspeakers telling me to come out and lie down, face down in the spotlight. They assure me I am surrounded and they keep repeating it. I'm not coming out. No fuckin way. These guys are gonna waste me and spray me with bullets if I step into that light. This whole thing's a setup. It's a death trap. Bullet in my brain. I'm not goin out like that. Next on the loudspeaker is that "no one is going to get hurt, if I lay down my weapon and come out with my hands up". No way. These guys are liars, they want me dead.

An hour goes by and then I hear rumbling by the front of the house and here comes the snow plow again right up to the driveway with like 4 swat guys in black running in low behind it, using the snow plow as cover from my sniper rounds.

Right now I know I'm dead. For sure. maybe 5 minutes till they breach every door and I breath my last breath on this horrible earth. They'll read about me in the papers - how a troubled gulf war veteran went crazy on amphetamines and barricaded himself in his parents home and killed 2 police before taking his own life. My kids would be fucked up and in therapy forever trying to get over this one.

I dove into the bathroom and closed and locked the door. I heard the sound of the front door breaking in and I knew it was only seconds until the bathroom door gets smashed in and I get bullets in my brain but I'm not goin out like that. I cocked back the bolt on the 770 and chambered a round - sweat gushing out of every pore stinking like PV...my muscles tight like steel... for a second I was happy, I might get one good round off before I die...

Then something unexpected happened... they used a fiber optic scope to peek under the door, it had a little light at the end so they could see what I was up to in there before they busted in. I was like "No Way" and I stood up and kicked the door several times until it cracked the wooden frame and the door broke open, now accepting my death, accepting the bullets into my brain, accepting that this world and my life and struggles, were over now, about to plunge deep into the mystery of the afterlife...

BOOM!

To my confusion, there were no cops to be seen. There was nothing. Only the darkened quiet house.

I still didn't believe it. But I knew that I was fuckin done with this bad dream. I knew that if these were cops, they couldn't kill an unarmed man so I tossed the rifle down and went outside into the bitter cold. I sat down in the driveway. I still did not believe this. I laid down on my stomach and yelled out "I surrender".

I laid there for like 10 minutes. Nothing. I stood up and looked to where the snow plow was and there was nothing. There was no snow piled up in the road. It was quiet and nothing was happening. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing.

Yes. Seriously. It was all imagined.

Worst one yet. Beyond psychosis. Beyond hallucination. The things I saw were both entirely realistic, 3-dimensional, tactile, and had loud audio accompaniments. I mean, I don't think skitzofrenics ever even get that bad.

So like, wow. a took a lotta PV. For a while I was certain this batch had to be cut with 2c-i or 2c-e or something because I was rocketed into a conscious world that was teeming with my very unconscious fears incarnate.

So what now? I'm gonna quit this shit or somebody's gonna die. Maybe me, maybe my mom, maybe you.
 
Are your parents alright?
Soap, that sounds awful, this is quite serious. It could not have been cut with those, as they are more expensive, and they would have been colorful trailing, not what you described.
 
Everybody slips up on the way to recovery. The important thing is stopping again. Once this shit is firmly disentangled from your brain's reward response centers, consider it a learning experience on the path back to sobriety.

I spent a decade of life putting a bottle in my mouth like it was a gun. I know something about slow suicide by substance (although MDPV is more like fast suicide). It doesn't have to end in a fiery crash: you really can pull out and rebuild things. You may not realize that now, but think about it once you've had some food and sleep.
 
Jesus soap. If that's all true I'm speechless. Get help bro, for your sake, for your kids sake, for your parents sake, for the sake of EVERYTHING that could have gone horribly wrong in that situation. Were your parents actually home and ran off or were they out and you imagined that too? That's just nuts bro. Too nuts actually... I'm still not entirely convinced it's true, but at the same time why make that shit up. I don't know. Regardless, whatever happens good luck man; I'm happy your alive.
 
Damn how can you do this to your self, its time to stop now! And you are using like the worst stimulant to get tweaked off of, i have read some nasty things about mdpv. I don't even know what to say, i can't even comprehend how this is real. That last story how the hell did all that shit happen, aren't you are your prescribed drugs.
 
This is almost more suited for The Dark Side at this point...

Again I'm sorry soap. I was thinking about ordering some mdpv earlier today but after reading this thread.... I think getting a pistol and shooting myself in the knee cap would be a better option.

So i thank you soap, in the least dark and ironically cruel way possible, for convincing me not to buy mdpv. I don't mean to say i am glad you have suffered so much - but rather trying to show you that at least 1 thing good came of it. Hopefully others will read this and either stop or refrain from buying mdpv in the first place. Good luck bro, seriously.
 
Soap love, this is pretty damn serious shit (but you know that, right?) A gun in front of your rents, wow! A fuckin gun. Someone could be dead. Just think of the fuckin guilt then (I live with it everyday n it ain't nice) not that I've killed anyone, not physically anyway. I think from here you've got 3 choices:
1. Stay on the road you're on and be dead (and/or kill the people around you, literally).
2. Get clean n stay off the uppers for good (a bleak thought, I imagine).
3. Swap your drug of choice and get on the downers. I know from your previous posts that in your time you've done just about every drug there is, n I can't believe I'm saying this but can't you swap the peevee for an opiate? At least it won't cause psychosis n all that bull shit. Do you smoke green? If not, just fuck off the speed n smoke the herb n chill the fuck out.
Soap love, you know I'm a big fan of yours, I love you, and I love your writing style (get to writing that fuckin book! I want a good read) but you gotta sort your shit out, if not for yourself then for your kids and parents. Don't take my advice, I'm just a 25 yr old girl who has a smack n crack habit. However, I do have 10 yr's experience on this shit so I know what it's like to be an addict (a hardcore one at times too.) I was living on the street between the ages of 17 n 18 and for a girl of that age to be sleeping in cardboard boxes at night alone is not good. I've risked my life many times and nearly died 4 times (and those are just the times I can remember). I've been told there's been more times. I've come close to death, I've smelt it, felt it, and was very nearly dealt it (I could be a poet, eh) =D At the time it didn't phase me, I look back now and realise how fuckin lucky I actually was. I'm so lucky to be here, I imagine you are too with all the mad crazy shit you've done. What I'm saying is, no matter how deep into our addictions we are, no matter how close we come to meeting our maker, life goes on... whether we like it or not. Make the most of it because we're a long time fuckin dead, and soap my friend that is where you're heading. It ain't fair on your kids love. I'm sure they don't want a dead daddy. What about your parents, I'm sure they'd love to bury their son... NOT! We gotta start thinking about the bigger picture and it ain't just all about us. We both have folk who love us so maybe we should do it for them. I know that goes against the grain, as junkies we're told "do it for yourself, no one else." However, I can't do it for myself, so I have to try n do it for my parents (I don't have kids) and my mum has always been like my best friend. I love her to bits and hate the way my addiction has ruined our relationship. I want her to go to her grave at peace, knowing that her only daughter finally managed to get clean and sort herself out before she died. That would be real nice. I'm not clean yet but I'm in a better place than I was. I can't see my life without heroin and crack so I've had to try and make those two things fit into my life without fuckin it up (a work in progress). Can you fit the peeve into your life without fuckin it up? I'm not sure I can with the smack n crack. If you're like me then you're not gonna want to quit drugs n be clean for the rest of your life. In that case soap, swap which drugs you take. Fuck the uppers love, seriously, before they fuck you completely. This and the above is the only bit of advice I can give you (not that you asked for it) and you probably think it's a load of shit but like me, you haven't got many choices left.

Good luck soap! You're one of a kind and I love you :)
 
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This is almost more suited for The Dark Side at this point...

Again I'm sorry soap. I was thinking about ordering some mdpv earlier today but after reading this thread.... I think getting a pistol and shooting myself in the knee cap would be a better option.

So i thank you soap, in the least dark and ironically cruel way possible, for convincing me not to buy mdpv. I don't mean to say i am glad you have suffered so much - but rather trying to show you that at least 1 thing good came of it. Hopefully others will read this and either stop or refrain from buying mdpv in the first place. Good luck bro, seriously.
It gave me serious addiction issues, not with it, but with other things. I found it odd that I did not like it, but I got addicted to welch's fruit snacks.
 
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Soap...I think you have found a way to turn the negatives these drugs have done to you into a positive contribution to society. The brain damage you've unfortunately suffered could be construed as absolute genius, you thoroughly entertained me and I'm sure there is a market out there for this.

Just remember, you only let the drug induced damage win if you give up (regret) and reside to a life of depression, paranoia relegating yourself to just sitting at home doing nothing but watching television and eating.

Have a positive outlook, and a "it was all for the best" mentality regardless of what others say and how you'd perform on an IQ test now compared to before and you could seriously be brilliant.

Best of luck
 
... Just remember, you only let the drug induced damage win if you give up (regret) and reside to a life of depression, paranoia relegating yourself to just sitting at home doing nothing but watching television and eating.

Have a positive outlook, and a "it was all for the best" mentality regardless of what others say and how you'd perform on an IQ test now compared to before and you could seriously be brilliant.

...

Wonderful advice! Seriously, you phrased it very well. Mr MacTavish, you truly are above the average. Cherish your experiences, they are some of the most intriguing I've ever heard.
 
My .02:

If you continue to use you are feeding the endless cycle of depression. Peaks and valleys my friend. Things have to get worse before they get better, otherwise you will continue to torment yourself. Ultimately the amphetamine is the root cause of these issues. Reading your past posts makes that quite apparent. It is going to take a looooooong time to feel "better" (we are talking years here to feel fully 100% physically and mentally) but trust me it is possible.

Truth hurts but if you insist on taking the "easy" way out you're just fucking yourself and making your life harder in the end.

Take your scripts, try to get some rest if not sleep. Drink a lot of fluids, especially diuretics. Drink fruit juices, eat vegetables, etc. When you feel up to it, get some exercise even if just stretching or walking.

I don't like this advice.

I say rest while the MDPV WD (which is what it truly probably is) goes away, then continue on with your life, including your amphetamine habit if it makes you happy.

'Live as if you were to die tomorrow.
Learn as you were to live forever.'

Gandhi
 
One more thing, this guy is right on point with his description of MDPV. I'm bright, educated, affluent and done almost every drug out there except methamphetamine and I was always the level headed guy calming others down. I figured I was immune to drug-induced paranoia and psychosis, don't get me wrong I have become paranoid and spaced out on certain psychedelics and psychoactive drugs but have always had enough of a reality check to know that I was not losing my mind.

This is a drug where you are aware that you are in a drug induced psychosis and you can tell yourself over and over again that this will all end and you will return to normal but it doesn't make a difference because the drug will break you regardless.

This drug had me in the emergency room believing I was about to die of a stroke and cerebral hemorrhage and I came back to reality (relatively so) and was told I had just experienced a panic attack and this was normal for a drug like this. This completely eased my mind and made me think "ok I can do this drug again and no matter what happens I will not lose my mind I promise, I've just never felt a substance do this to my body before and this loss of control...Now that I know crazy shit will happen no matter what, everything will be OK."

Big mistake, psychosis was even worse the next time...OP is right on point with tasting blood or a metallic taste, flashes of being so cold you are going to freeze to death to having certain parts of your body so hot they are sweating profusely (for me my hands, feet, and forehead) alternating for example your right hand may be frozen solid while your left foot is hotter than the desert drenched in sweat. Rash all over the body consuming gallons of water every 10 minutes, pissing non stop.

This drug has you slamming your head against the walls wrecking everything in site praying to the gods to get whatever has a hold of you out followed by an almost nonexistent heartbeat to a wave of paranoia so pronounced you know your life is forever changed.

Voices, hallucinations, delusions, horror so great I can not explain. I will never be the same again
 
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Holyshit!... Stop doing this to yourself man! How!?...


What really happend with the parents? They didnt even call anyone? Or was it even thier house? Fuck man!
 
My god, the experiences some people have with PeeVee!

It's VERY self limiting IMO, I don't really get how people can take this shit so far! My first experience with it was ROUGH, my 2nd even ROUGHER, and then it seemed like a tolerance started to build pretty quick and it became a little more predictable and less anxiety inducing.

My first 3 experiences were IV use, the rush the 2nd time was right up there with IV heroin but was quickly displaced by panic. I never had much of an urge to redose because I felt so uncomfortable. I started snorting it and was able to dose like 6 times in one day without any anxiety. Next I tried smoking it and it felt pretty damn good but was very easy to over do it.

An intense rush would hit and I'd be good for 15 minutes, and then I'd feel almost baseline (besides getting really sweaty). Smoked some more, felt good. Smoked some more... agh!! Not good, felt ill at ease, moody, and just really wanted it to be over with. Then I felt really weird for 12 hours or so afterwards.

Since I've gotten the shit I haven't gone a day without using it though, which I suspect is an aspect of it's insidious nature. It's not all that outright euphoric, but I feel like a lab rat repeatedly pressing a switch that releases dopamine via electrodes in it's brain...
 
I've never done MDPV, and after reading some of the posts on this thread, I don't think I ever will:

My first 3 experiences were IV use, the rush the 2nd time was right up there with IV heroin but was quickly displaced by panic.
 
I've never done MDPV, and after reading some of the posts on this thread, I don't think I ever will:

Yeah, just keep in mind these horrible life changing experiences were from using 250-1000mg over the course of 1-5 days (at least in my experience with the drug).

If you insufflate (snort) a mini 15-20mg line (about a toothpicks worth) you'll get all of the positives with none of the negatives illustrated aside from a few jitters.

Hope you don't have an addictive personality though as redose potential is very high along with exponential tolerance increase.
 
If I were in your shoes I would start doing heroin. When I was faced with horrible comedowns that are THAT bad, thats the only thing that really helped enough. But thats a bad idea.



Are you KIDDING ME? wow.

From my time on this forum there is no collective answer for ANYTHING. talk to your doctors, tell them everything, they have a shot at fixing this, not some babble on the internet. following advice on this place will get you killed. jesus
 
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