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JWH/dose/discrimination

I would just like to put my experiences with this product out there. I have been using Marijuana for many many years now although this product Is similar to the effects of weed it is not the same. People need to understand that like any substance (caffeine, food, alcohol,.....) If abused or mis understood/misused can have adverse potentially life threatening side effects. Always know what you are doing and use in moderation or it can be harmful
in some way..Duh! rather than try to make every substance on the planet Illegal and put Innocent Americans in jail because the government cant respect peoples privacy (that is supposed to be protected by our Constitution)that is wrong. Some day if we continue this way we could be put in jail for coffee or a hamburger, why not they can kill you. Basically what I'm saying is if you don't know what you are doing dont use this product and if you do the research use caution. The truth is that this substance if properly used can have the same Positive medicinal benefits of Medical Marijuana. I personally think that this has the potential of being a better option than Marijuana for many reasons. One, it is cheaper(compared to the balloned value of Marijuana). second, there are different types of this substance that effect the body/mind in different ways due to the selective affinity to the cannabinoid receptors depending on the chemical. which means it could have many medicinal values. Third, to get the desired effect you dont have to smoke it. It can be effectivly and safely broken down into liquid form using grain alcohol (95%/v edible corn alcohol), and applied to food or your favorite drink. You just need to calculate the mixture to be able to understand the dosage. IE: 1g added to 100ml or 3.39 ounces of grain alcohol = 10mg/ml. Smoking this substance is effective but not recomended, due to the fact that you are changing the chemical composition and possibly introducing unwanted chemicals and carcinogens. not to mention is much harder to get an accurate dose due to the fact that it is active smoked at only .5mg and to accurately measure that size of dose you need a super expensive scale. cheap scales are not the way to go due to accuracy in small doses. When taking orally an effective dose of 018 is around 10mg but is imperative to dilute in grain alcohol (using other solvent can pose a danger including rubbing alcohol DANGEROUS!)Grain alcohol is the same as potent vodka, edible but use responsibly. And just add to a drink or food like you would hash or Marijuana extracts, It takes more than smoking but has less side effects. Smoked dose equals 1-4mg "good luck measuring that" or Orally dose equals 10-20mg diluted in alcohol 1g+100ml=10mg/ml so the dose should be measured at 1-2ml. You can get a ml measuring dropper usually from any pharmacy for free or very cheap just ask the pharmacist. That is the safest way to effectively use and measure this substance safely with no known side effects different than Marijuana IE: red eyes, munchies, short term memory, and possible anxiety. Everyone needs to understand that its not the substance that is harmful, Its the person using it. just like a gun. not everyone should have one due to mental problems, stupidity, or lack of knowledge. becaus you may harm yourself or others. But educated sane people should be allowed if they know what they are doing. I agree that like Marijuana, alcohol, cigg's...... should be regulated in some sense to keep out of reach of children and young adults who are immature and don't know what they are doing. but to others should be a right. how is this substance or Marijuana different or more harmful than Alcohol? other than the fact that more than likely you wont loose control and beat up your wife or children like you may on alcohol. To me its a little bit of an oxymoron to say that alcohol is safe but this or marijuana isn't and people should go to jail for having it. That is just stupid propaganda made by stupid people, and supported by stupid people. Basically, this is a human rights problem no different than slavery or segregation. IE: you can become a prisoner for possession and forced to be locked up against your will. you must pass a drug test to be able to get most jobs, yet anyone who abuses alcohol is fine and those who take prescription drugs (even if that drug is similar in effects or worse physically addictive) those are ok, no matter the side effects(some deadly). Yet these are highly discriminated against. It makes sense to me "NOT". But i guess we as a society will never be perfect. Anyone who believes that is not only stupid but a hypocrite. Lets free America again. Back to our original values. Stop turning innocent Americans into criminals. Stop privatizing prisons/jails, definitely don't let judges benefit financially from convictions or owning a stake in a private jail. Free all Americans who are jailed for cannabinoid substances (jwh,Marijuana)."FREE AMERICA!"
 
yeah makes me feel pretty much exactly like weed does but a little bit shorter high..IMO


@@mrmurphy i didn't even attempt to read that essay..hit enter a few times damn
 
Heres an updated report from my original post:

My headaches from the JWH-018 are gone. I feel completely how I used to feel and my memory "feels" normal again. The headaches went away in less than 15 days. However, they were the scariest 15 days of my life. I never thought they were going to go away and I kept saying that if they go away I will never consume it again. Regardless, I would never consume it again anyways. Stick to the natural stuff, research chemicals were a bad idea.
 
It seems that it all boils down to overdosing.

Pure agonist cannabinoids have only been in use for a little while - what they do compared to partial agonists with their plateau, one can only guess. If you had experienced buprenorphine and were up to taking 8mg doses at a time without negative effect, and going higher wasn't producing any stronger effects and all of a sudden you started using heroin, you'd be in for a rude awakening.

I think this is the same sort of thing. People are assuming that because these are cannabinoids they have the same safety profile in overdose. They obviously don't. Start very small, and do so every time you use. If you're using half gram doses, there's a problem.
 
I hope these headaches clear up for you, and I also hope you're not one of those guys intentionally going around spreading misinformation about synthetic cannabinoids.


I really don't know who to trust other than chainer3k when it comes to this kind of stuff.
 
We can't help you with this, only a doctor can-- and even then, a doctor can only help you if you're 100% open about what you've been doing to your body.

Other people have mentioned the recurring and/or constant headache. No one's found a cure, but some of them have overcome the headaches just by waiting it out.



Good luck.
 
Morrow, I'm gonna merge this with your other thread. Jibult is right though...chainer is one of the most knowledgeable people here about this. Plus, I just realized, this thread slipped through when CD was doing all sorts of mod changing...kinda glad it popped up so I can be OCD and organize things.
 
I'm gonna merge this into Morrow's first post on this...I saw you wanted to speak to him about it via another thread, should try to get to BLer status by making informative posts and answering questions so you guys can do it via PM. Regardless, you both seem to be having the exact same issues, but I think the thread this is about to get merged with has the most information you're gonna get on here about it. Once again, chainer is a good person to take advice from on this.
 
Swift Serenity said:
you just suck thats all
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Not called for, especially if its towards me. I've sympathized with feeling shitty, but having everything in one place makes it a lot easier for people to actually search for the information later on, which is important as well.
 
I'm gunna add my experience with these legal herbal smokes, as of 4 days ago (nov. 4) I experienced a full blown psychotic break and grand maul seizure after smoking one called white rabbit. I consumed 3 hits well under what the usual amount of canabis I smoke. I began feeling drowzy, confused, thought I could just sleep through it. My fiance woke me and i sprang from bed and went to the hallway where I began having the seizure. It was a terrible hallucinagenic experience like I have never experienced before. I remember bits and pices of the event but mostly coming out of it in my living room and seeing the emt's and a police officer, a sliver of the ambulance ride, and some of the er visit. I was informed that it was essentially an alergic reaction and it took 50cc of I.V. valum to calm me down and that I was the 3rd case addmited this month and 6 had died this year in my town from it. I woke the following day at 4pm. My advice is to just stay away from these as they are bad news. I will NEVER smoke any herbal blends again. There seems to be no safe legal alternative to canabis. It is now 4 days later and I still don't feel quite right, I was told it may be weeks before I am back to 100%. Please take heed in my words friends just don't smoke these legal smokes I don't want you to end up like me.

P.S.
The name of the smoking blend I had was Lights Out XXX White Rabbit a mix of several of the JWH chemicals including 18, 250, and 73.
 
PK555 said:
I'm gunna add my experience with these legal herbal smokes, as of 4 days ago (nov. 4) I experienced a full blown psychotic break and grand maul seizure after smoking one called white rabbit. I consumed 3 hits well under what the usual amount of canabis I smoke. I began feeling drowzy, confused, thought I could just sleep through it. My fiance woke me and i sprang from bed and went to the hallway where I began having the seizure. It was a terrible hallucinagenic experience like I have never experienced before. I remember bits and pices of the event but mostly coming out of it in my living room and seeing the emt's and a police officer, a sliver of the ambulance ride, and some of the er visit. I was informed that it was essentially an alergic reaction and it took 50cc of I.V. valum to calm me down and that I was the 3rd case addmited this month and 6 had died this year in my town from it. I woke the following day at 4pm. My advice is to just stay away from these as they are bad news. I will NEVER smoke any herbal blends again. There seems to be no safe legal alternative to canabis. It is now 4 days later and I still don't feel quite right, I was told it may be weeks before I am back to 100%. Please take heed in my words friends just don't smoke these legal smokes I don't want you to end up like me.

P.S.
The name of the smoking blend I had was Lights Out XXX White Rabbit a mix of several of the JWH chemicals including 18, 250, and 73.
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If 6 people in your town alone died from JWH then there would be thousands upon thousands of people dying all over the place. It would have been banned a while ago.
 
This is what the ER tech and Cop told my fiance and dad I was not very coherent aparently it is on it's way to being baned in New Mexico, after what I went through (and reading what others went through) I have NO trouble beliving it HURT that many (or more) but killed I do agree seems a bit steep. It was mentioned by the officer and emt's (to my family) that THIS blend (white rabbit) was being mentioned alot in similar and exacting cases as I said though I was not all there as 50cc's of valum will tend to mess up your ability to think and comprehend.
 
Havnt really had troubles with Jdubs, it seems like a great tool for people that are being drug tested, and i do not have any complaints about it, and ive been going through quite a bit of it.
 
Ive been trying to search this thread for specific amounts of JWH smoked, no one really gives any specifics. Can someone that has these migraine headaches and other symptoms give a semi-specific report of how much they smoked?

Ive been taking hits every hour or two off of a lightbulb vape or foil, and dunk my cigs in a bit of jwh-018. I feel perfectly fine, the comedown is none existent, it is easy as hell to smoke in public, and very economical. These stories of never ending migraines are the only thing that are worrying me. But i feel so great all day smoking this shit, i dont see any point to stop until i feel ANY negative effects.
 
PK555 said:
I'm gunna add my experience with these legal herbal smokes, as of 4 days ago (nov. 4) I experienced a full blown psychotic break and grand maul seizure after smoking one called white rabbit. I consumed 3 hits well under what the usual amount of canabis I smoke. I began feeling drowzy, confused, thought I could just sleep through it. My fiance woke me and i sprang from bed and went to the hallway where I began having the seizure. It was a terrible hallucinagenic experience like I have never experienced before. I remember bits and pices of the event but mostly coming out of it in my living room and seeing the emt's and a police officer, a sliver of the ambulance ride, and some of the er visit. I was informed that it was essentially an alergic reaction and it took 50cc of I.V. valum to calm me down and that I was the 3rd case addmited this month and 6 had died this year in my town from it. I woke the following day at 4pm. My advice is to just stay away from these as they are bad news. I will NEVER smoke any herbal blends again. There seems to be no safe legal alternative to canabis. It is now 4 days later and I still don't feel quite right, I was told it may be weeks before I am back to 100%. Please take heed in my words friends just don't smoke these legal smokes I don't want you to end up like me.

P.S.
The name of the smoking blend I had was Lights Out XXX White Rabbit a mix of several of the JWH chemicals including 18, 250, and 73.
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6 have died from it? i find that hard to believe lol. all the jwh related deaths are concentrated in your little town

how do you know whats in white rabbit, they dont list the ingredients anywhere, your spewing shit. I'm not belittling your experience..I am sure it happen.

You smoked some random blend of god knows what.

6 people dying from jwh-018?no
 
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