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Hey has anyone heard of this or know what this might be? Found this on a site that's also offering Explosion Oderizer [methylone].

but the instructions for this are different:

"Alegria is a liquid that when evaporates in a the fragrance lamp, it spreads a pleasant fragrance. Never use more than one bottle, because otherwise the smell is just too intense.

Content: 20ml"



//Sorry mods if this thread is against the rules.

SOLIPSIS MOD EDIT: This was so totally against the rules IMO, i.e. no ID threads, but that changed after this post, so you can thank him.
But for future reference, discussing the contents of brand names is not okay in the PD forum - and probably in other BL fora... however at this junction I don't see the point anymore in closing it, since the contents of this product have been elucidated.:

VivaViva said:
Algeria is a combination of methylone and 4-FMP, it's as well sold in Dutch smartshops. Don't know the exact dosages, but I've heard some pretty good things about it!
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Don't use these products unless you feel like chomping down on an unknown quantity of experimental unscheduled RCs.
 
omg are you actually supposed to ingest that to get high?

creepy!

i always wondered how y'all obtained your RCs
 
thats not how most people obtain RCs. Methylone was first sold as a similar product, i wouldnt be surprised if thats it
 
well may i ask... how do y'all get them?

when i want something i just get seeds from an ethnobotanical vendor and grow it
 
OP, I'd get rid of that image, its direct from the vendor...
 
Teotzlcoatl said:
well may i ask... how do y'all get them?

when i want something i just get seeds from an ethnobotanical vendor and grow it
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We buy them from an RC vendor and get a baggie of white (or off-white) powder in the mail? Kinda like how you buy your seeds, only we don't have to grow anything, or eat handfuls of foul tasting plant matter with unknown concentrations of drugs (I'm trained as a chemical engineer, so naturally, i trust synthetics more.)

egor said:
OP, I'd get rid of that image, its direct from the vendor...
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Indeed.

Who would ever buy a legal high that didnt tell you exactly what was in it? I hope none of us informed, harm reducing, bluelighters!
 
i thought most RCs were illegal tho?

We buy them from an RC vendor and get a baggie of white (or off-white) powder in the mail? Kinda like how you buy your seeds, only we don't have to grow anything, or eat handfuls of foul tasting plant matter with unknown concentrations of drugs (I'm trained as a chemical engineer, so naturally, i trust synthetics more.)
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Ya I have to be patient and wait. I can't be lazy and just open the mail box and start eating drugs. It takes actual work for me.

Plus... I always know what I'm getting. You could get a bag of sand or even worse... another RC which your not sure what it is and you OD on it!

Who would ever buy a legal high that didnt tell you exactly what was in it?
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Right! Who would buy ANY drug if they didn't know exactly what was in it!
 
True statement: Teo, I have gotten sick of your nonstop self-aggrandizement because you are allll natural and your putting down of other people for their use of synthetics, whether it be overt or passive aggressive, such as your last few posts in this thread.

Chill out with your trying to teach all of us your way. You are not a missionary.
 
This discussion is getting dangerously close to the 'no vendor discussion' rule, IMO. Anything more specific than "there are vendors and RCs usually come in purified powder form" is probably too much, even that seems a little dicey but I guess it's general enough.

Teo: agreed on the "don't buy random unlabeled drugs" thing. Crap like this is probably part of why you're skeptical about RCs in general. When I heard about the 'explosion' thing (doing this same thing with methylone, buying 'room odorisers' and other such devices that were really some RC) I was kind of horrified. Pushing the legal limits of selling quasi-legal drugs openly is all well and good, but FFS, if you can't tell people what drug you're more or less trying to get them to eat, you shouldn't be selling it!

As for the legality of RCs, the ones that are still being sold all that openly, at least, are unscheduled in the US. Only a handful of the popular RC psychedelics - 2C-B and 2C-T-7 spring to mind - have been banned in the US so far - the rest are just not approved for human consumption, kinda like most legal natural drugs (e.g., morning glory seeds are perfectly legal but if you make an extract of LSAs and sell *that*, it's illegal).
 
Ya dude! Surely you can at least slightly understand my perspective! some of this shit seems VERY dangerous!

Even y'all acknowledge the danger is real in many threads!

As for the legality of RCs, the ones that are still being sold all that openly, at least, are unscheduled in the US. Only a handful of the popular RC psychedelics - 2C-B and 2C-T-7 spring to mind - have been banned in the US so far - the rest are just not approved for human consumption, kinda like most legal natural drugs (e.g., morning glory seeds are perfectly legal but if you make an extract of LSAs and sell *that*, it's illegal).
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So all the fun ones are banned? thanks for clearing that up.
 
No there are plenty of good RCs that aren't explicitly illegal. See 4-Acetoxy-DMT for a great example of a non-scheduled drug that is IMO better than it's natural counter part (psilocin/4-ho-dmt in mushrooms). This is mostly because of that fact that it IS synthetic, giving it a cleaner feel (much less nausea for one). Not to mention more reliable dosing.
 
Teotzlcoatl said:
Ya I have to be patient and wait. I can't be lazy and just open the mail box and start eating drugs. It takes actual work for me.
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Good for you. You must be so proud.

Do you also make your clothes, your beer and your cheese?
This guy is fantastic.
 
Whatever's in that Alegria (allegra? algeria? a combination of "ale" and "geriatric"? stupidass name), it's probably not methylone, because the same place also sells the explosion stuff, which was long ago outed as methylone.

The markup on those "legal highs" is impressive, you pay a premium of 500-1000% to not know what you're getting. Places like that give RCs a bad name and get them banned.
Makes me wonder if i went the wrong path by earning a degree and getting an honest job, i should have just started sticking wierdass drugs in vials and selling them as room oderizers and lying about what's in them.

Is there a "natural vs synthetic psychedelics argument thread"? I'd like that - the natural-drug-supremacists and synthetic-drug-supremacists could scream at eachother in there without making a mess of other threads.
 
Teotzlcoatl said:
Ya dude! Surely you can at least slightly understand my perspective! some of this shit seems VERY dangerous!

Even y'all acknowledge the danger is real in many threads!



So all the fun ones are banned? thanks for clearing that up.
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No, I understand that eating random packets of liquid when you have no idea what they are is bad. That has nothing to do with the RCs themselves being dangerous. I wouldn't eat a random mushroom if I didn't know what it was but thought it kinda maybe might have psilocin in it, either. "The danger"s that we acknowledge are in no way the same ones we criticise you for pretending to know about. There is a HUGE difference between saying "unlabeled drugs with unknown additives are bad" and "all synthetics are bad."

No, not all the fun ones are banned. Why would we do the ones we didn't think were fun? 2C-T-7 killed people in high doses (usually when insufflated and/or combined by MDMA but IIRC there was one alleged 2C-T-7 fatality from a really high oral dose) and so it got scheduled. 2C-B was the first 2C to get popular so it got scheduled a long time ago. 2C -C, -D, -E, -I, -P and -T-2 are the most popular that are still legal. There are a few other much less common ones as well. That's just the 2Cs.

TheAzo: it almost never comes up except now that Teo brings it up on every thread. He's even copy pasting his little ignorant hippie manifesto onto other peoples' threads now... At any rate, most of us think it's dumb to call either group better. They are different, and responsible users should understand the benefits and drawbacks of any particular compound before choosing to take it. Some people here like to say synthetics are better in the sense that it's easier to be sure exactly what doses of exactly which active compounds are being ingested and various secondary active alkaloids in many active plants are still poorly studied, but again - it's more useful just to talk about the specific information available about a specific compound than to make such broad generalisations.
 
I feel like this is just turning into an "RC vs. ethnobotanics" thread. Both are dangerous and safe in their own ways, and it is a personal preference for what you feel safe putting in your body. Please stop this "my way is better" stuff, it is an opinion.

As for the OP, I don't think anyone knows what is in it, because I don't think anyone is dumb enough to buy the product with no idea what is in it. This seems like insanity...you don't know a dosage or anything.
 
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