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IV/IM Tryptamines/Phenethylamines

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Excido

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I always look through the Big and Dandys and hear inkling of an IM here an IV there but there's not really any information just there without going for some serious hunting (unless I'm wrong and just can't find anything). So I thought maybe we should have a thread about IM/IV experiences and such of Tryptamines and Phenethylamines. I hear stuff like 2C-T-7 is IV-able, but 2C-E its not recommended. And I was curious if things like 4-HO-MiPT was IV/IM-able. So information of what is and isn't IV/IM-able and their subjective effects. :D
 
click on my profile and find threads started button to find some IV tryptamine information...I've started a couple of threads where people have contributed great information.

Generally my rule is to stick to tryptamines...they feel safer...I believe phens might release monoamines and are more likely to be MAOIs...for this reason I will not IV phens. Also now two reports (two different people) have felt bad burning heart pain when IMing 2CE (my friend and another person online). So steer clear of that the risks are unknown.

I've IVed DPT, MET, 5-meo-DMT. they are all GREAT that way. It is the best pharmacodynamics, without the stress on your lungs that comes with smoking.

I want to try 5-meo-DALT and also 5-meo-MIPT and also of course the classic, DMT.

All these compounds should be wheel filtered with a .22 micron filter before IVing.
 
there are a few threads about this*... samadhi--er--gaian planes started one a while back


* usually with attendant controversy over whether sticking needles in yourself is a good idea
 
I have known two people who have injected LSD. I have no idea why, but it's safe to say they got launched to the moon within seconds. Personally I'll wait an hour to start tripping. Also I feel it's important to state they didn't use a blotter, they used liquid obtained from a chemist.
 
I would NOT iv 2ct7...that may be one of your worst possible choices to IV, as this drug is a MAOI and high peak plasma levels may be dangerous if not fatal
 
^yep.

and nice simultaneous post referring to your banging-psychs threads :D
 
Too many doses said:
I have known two people who have injected LSD. I have no idea why, but it's safe to say they got launched to the moon within seconds. Personally I'll wait an hour to start tripping. Also I feel it's important to state they didn't use a blotter, they used liquid obtained from a chemist.
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Ive read reports of IV'd LSD and it still takes a while for it to come on.
Im not sure why that would be, it seems to make more sense for it to kick in immediately.

Also im going to agree with whats already been said by GP.
Phens dont seems like a wise thing to be IVing. Tryptamines on the other hand...;)

well, ill just say im highly intrigued. Especially about DMT.
And from all the reports ive read it doesnt seem to cause to many if any adverse reactions.
Though i dont think i would recomend IVing 5 meo tryptamines, as those seem to be the most troublesome as far body load goes. To me 5 meo tryptamines feel weird an unatural, though that could be saved for another thread.
 
IV LSD hits you instantaneously in the sense that you can feel that you have taken a drug instantaneously but the time from being hit by it (i.e. plunging the plunger) to the peak of the experience is still roughly the same as if you had taken the drug orally.

IV DMT is almost exactly like smoking, but the chief advantage is that you can measure out the dose that is actually getting into your body more exactly than with smoking. For an anecdote about IV DMT in excessive doses, see the social thread.

IM DMT is, IMO, by far the most superior way of administering the compound. About 45 minutes of sublime mushroom-like deemster space, slow, gentle come up, slow, gentle come down.

Please don't IM extracted DMT, though.
 
IV 5-meo-DMT was incredibly WARM...it literally made my ears flush. It was almost like a dilaudid rush (although that could just be associations I have in my mind from injecting since most of my IVing has been with dilaudid and heroin).

I would do it again stronger. I think I took 1mg although I think I might have roughed it out dose wise (from 10mg or so solution).
 
2c-t-7 is one you probably should avoid banging, as it's reported to have more significant side-effects than most phens. The dose-response curve is also very steep so it is easy to take too much. I have never taken 2c-t-7, but judging by the effects profile over at erowid, I certainly wouldn't shoot this chemical. The thought of physically overdosing on a drug while tripping bawls just sounds miserable.
 
yes and overdosing on 2CT7 would probably include uncontrollably vomiting and possibly uncontrollably shitting

graphic but that is what it would probably be like dying from a serotonergic psychedelic
 
How does IM DMT/4-HO-Mipt/4-AcO-DMT compare to their oral counterpart routes. If I were to come across some DMT I'd much rather IM than Smoke. I've only really had experience with IM'ing 2ce (my preferred ROA and experienced no ill effects from it). Is IM similar to smoking DMT? Slow onset but do you still get the whole DMT hyperspace thing etc etc?
 
no IM is very different pharmacodynamics than vaporizing.

IV and vaporizing are pretty close to each other.

I actually only prefer 5-meo-DMT and MET now IV. DPT I don't prefer IV (I prefer that IM). I don't think I would prefer 4-substituted-t's IV (probably IM but I've only snorted and ate those).

I like the ones that are in and out quick usually to be IV and the ones that are more trips (like full length) I like as oral usually (cause the come-up transition is such a great space for learning).

You can still go to DMT hyperspace if you IM enough...but its going to require quite a bit (100+ probably?).

And I stress, you MUST wheel filter your DMT if you are going to IV it. This is because it is extracted from plant matter and can still contain very minute particles that can cause anaphylaxtic reaction in you if injected directly to your bloodstream.
 
Intravenously I have tried 2C-I and DPT. Both gave me the impression that the IV route is not really well suited for the traditional (=serotonergic) psychedelics. The comeup is too fast, it gives you no time to prepare mentally for the trip. Also it takes something away from the experience, since the anticipation of the effects during comeup builds a lot of the "mood" of the trip.
 
^ I concur but you should withhold judgement til you try it with compounds like MET or DMT!
 
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