Anyone dropped out of life?

I am intrigued by this and also people that hermit.
Imagine I was allready 'quarantined' before Covid. I was way ahead.

Some possible negatives are signs of Agora Fobie, anxiety, suicidal thought's or depression. Which I don't have luckily, after my 2e Epileptic insult I was suicidal, had all thing's necessary at hand and how to use em. But when talking to a close about this got that stupid ithough valid dea out my head. Thinking straight about the concquences for those left behind became clear.

My other problem drug(a)buse! Try to keep it reasonable.

Mantra to myself :Eat "healthy', do a walk make a talk. Work on some shit even if its not "the shit". Just do something to your liking/ or order your house. Tempo is unimportant.

Tell if something missed. And define hermit.
 
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I feel like I pretty much dropped out a long time ago. I remember when I was a kid (I've been depressed since I was 8) there was some mental health evaluator person asking me, "Do you WANT friends/to socialize?" and I started crying and just said yes. I'm pretty sure I thought about it later that day and didn't agree anymore with what I told them, like maybe I was just depressed (I was) and saying something that I thought was expected, or that could possibly help since I was helpless even then. I can't remember a time I actually felt like I needed companionship or relationships. And that's rough. I try to find some kind of solution for why I'm so disconnected from life and everyone just keeps going to relationships. It's like, I have hobbies I love, but I often don't have motivation to engage with them. The only kind of trauma I might have is medical, not social/familial. I have a job and I'm pretty functional in life. I have no desire to "move up" in the world, since I really just want a quiet life with my hobbies.

So why the fuck am I so uninterested in life? People always go to friendships and social connections. I don't have any desire for more friendships or socialization than I already have. It's actually unpleasant to have more. I don't care about intimate relationships and never have (tried some before and HATED the lack of distance and mental space, I cannot stand even talking to interesting people every day). I feel like I really don't want these things, but these are also the only "basic" mental health things I don't really have. I feel like I'm actually broken. No antidepressant med works. They all have horrible effects on me even (and usually ESPECIALLY) after they level out. Therapy has all been pointless, though maybe that's just because it's all CBT-based or just some "here's a person you can talk to" stuff.

This post was pointless but I had a shit year last year and January has been even shittier so far with the only saving grace being I don't fucking have bed bugs. Fucking cool. Drugs basically make life worth living to me, despite their problems. But none of them are sustainable, so I always have to space things out for tolerance's sake. So there's those shit days between. And I have to lie to get what I want, if I don't want to turn the streets. I'm just a robot doing automatic functions and then going home and having a mental breakdown whenever anything bad happens in my life. I have no resiliency anymore. I don't know how to build it back up when I don't really care about anyone and have no energy to engage with the things I like. I am out, and I think it would be nice to be even more out.
 
It's a shame we don't have the same religious culture that the East has in many places, with monasteries and other avenues for 'dropping out', where one can go to at least just clear their heads for a time. Or even just a basic social culture that tolerates the individual when they wish to disengage from the game of society, where they are not seen as a burden but treated with respect and offered food, because it is recognized these people actually play a very important role.

That's what really fucks people up in the West in my opinion, there's really only one game in town and you are forced to play it by penalty of destitution or starvation. If you want to escape then you have to grind hard to earn money first, to get the resources you need to have yourself away. The pursuit of (external) happiness, eh. But if you try to find it internally on your own, then you can get fucked and die. Yeah. Some Christian culture we are.

If it weren't for the safety net and tolerance of my parents I don't know if I would have made it this far. I recognized all this bullshit back in my teenage years and it has been a constant source of burden ever since, and foreknowing that the economic and authoritarian nonsense we're now going through was coming down the pipe as well. Can you imagine? Twenty years ago, not even into adulthood, and all you see ahead of you is basically no way out and knowing you will be treading water for the rest of your life. And there's no one you can talk to about it? No one willing to address the deep thoughts that are telling you that you're being fucked over and betrayed?

I dropped out mentally before I was even legally adult. This societal construct is a fucking disgrace and we've all been monumentally betrayed. It gets more evident by the week now - UK talking about conscription last week lmao.. get fucked.

For a long time I punished myself - it's a default mode of programming we all have in the West (thanks, Christianity!) - smoking cannabis, not taking care of myself. Slowly but surely I learned (still learning) to not punish myself.. there is nothing wrong with me (or you). So much of our thinking is imposed gaslighting designed to grind down our spirits and force conformity. It's really twisted, and sad.

I eat very well, very healthy and strong now. Sip whiskey once in a blue moon. Thank the lord I never got anyone pregnant or got married, that's perhaps the only thing I'm really grateful for! It does (and doesn't) bother me that I'm isolated. On balance though, I prefer peace and quiet, a whole bed to sleep undisturbed in, and not taking on the burdens of anyone else. I make it a habit to go for a 1+ hour walk every day, far away from people. It's still a struggle.

If I won the lottery I'd be off in a flash to the middle of nowhere, build a self sustaining home environment, and never deal with society again.
 
there are lots of monasteries that accept westerners in the east and the west, i could have become a renunciate in australia in the theravada buddhist tradition if i wanted to.

people come with people problems wherever you go though.

i'm more picky now with who i choose to surround myself with, i'd rather spend time with myself rather than drag myself down seeking connection and friendship
 
It's a shame we don't have the same religious culture that the East has in many places, with monasteries and other avenues for 'dropping out', where one can go to at least just clear their heads for a time. Or even just a basic social culture that tolerates the individual when they wish to disengage from the game of society, where they are not seen as a burden but treated with respect and offered food, because it is recognized these people actually play a very important role.

That's what really fucks people up in the West in my opinion, there's really only one game in town and you are forced to play it by penalty of destitution or starvation. If you want to escape then you have to grind hard to earn money first, to get the resources you need to have yourself away. The pursuit of (external) happiness, eh. But if you try to find it internally on your own, then you can get fucked and die. Yeah. Some Christian culture we are.

If it weren't for the safety net and tolerance of my parents I don't know if I would have made it this far. I recognized all this bullshit back in my teenage years and it has been a constant source of burden ever since, and foreknowing that the economic and authoritarian nonsense we're now going through was coming down the pipe as well. Can you imagine? Twenty years ago, not even into adulthood, and all you see ahead of you is basically no way out and knowing you will be treading water for the rest of your life. And there's no one you can talk to about it? No one willing to address the deep thoughts that are telling you that you're being fucked over and betrayed?

I dropped out mentally before I was even legally adult. This societal construct is a fucking disgrace and we've all been monumentally betrayed. It gets more evident by the week now - UK talking about conscription last week lmao.. get fucked.

For a long time I punished myself - it's a default mode of programming we all have in the West (thanks, Christianity!) - smoking cannabis, not taking care of myself. Slowly but surely I learned (still learning) to not punish myself.. there is nothing wrong with me (or you). So much of our thinking is imposed gaslighting designed to grind down our spirits and force conformity. It's really twisted, and sad.

I eat very well, very healthy and strong now. Sip whiskey once in a blue moon. Thank the lord I never got anyone pregnant or got married, that's perhaps the only thing I'm really grateful for! It does (and doesn't) bother me that I'm isolated. On balance though, I prefer peace and quiet, a whole bed to sleep undisturbed in, and not taking on the burdens of anyone else. I make it a habit to go for a 1+ hour walk every day, far away from people. It's still a struggle.

If I won the lottery I'd be off in a flash to the middle of nowhere, build a self sustaining home environment, and never deal with society again.

Do you work? What fulfills you?

The way you summarized your experience, I strongly relate to. However because of how I was raised, I've never had the strong desire to get out of the rat race, until it was forced with homelessness due to mental health and legal issues. I actually miss parts of it. I understand and feel understood, more able to be myself, in institutions, which probably isn't a good thing, but there must be some knowledge to derive from that that I can use to better my situation.

People who aren't trying to be something their not. Can't find lots of those in corporate America.
 
Do you work? What fulfills you?
I'm career switching at the moment. Worked for 5 years in a corporate job, saved all my money (minus food and rent). Again, without parents to fall back on I would be screwed, and that really angers me because I know a lot of people don't even have that option. Seeing how our governments spunk money away frivolously while making life ever more expensive, not building enough housing etc, it is utterly humiliating and a betrayal.

Honestly, there's not much fulfilment in my life. I lift weights twice a week to keep my body and mind better, that definitely works, and my daily 1hr walk is respite. Thankfully I have 1 close friend who gets it, and that is catharsis for us both. Truthfully, the only time I'm genuinely happy is in deep sleep when there is no need of anything. Dreaming used to fulfil me, learning how to lucid dream and astral project. And the odd mystical experience through meditation. But this doesn't offset waking life for me much anymore, the exigencies of life just demand too much without the pay off - this would be tolerable if our way of life were actually living, and not just a sophisticated form of slavery.

Occasionally I get glimpses of hope. Listening to Terence McKenna or others who remind me that I'm not alone and not the only one thinking this way. I feel a surge of love in my heart, and a glimmer of hope, that perhaps something might happen to correct our course. After the covid era though, I have been trying to come to acceptance with death and making mental preparations. Luck might be on my side, on our side, but it might also not be.

Basically, outwardly I'm doing things to try and improve my situation, to grin and bare things, but inwardly I'm doing my own thing and getting ready to possibly see Earth in the rear-view mirror with a sense of relief.
 
I'll have to message you later.

I feel as though missing a conversation with such a similar mind in regards to outlook and such, would be a wasted opportunity.

I appreciate the words.

HAGD
 
I'm career switching at the moment. Worked for 5 years in a corporate job, saved all my money (minus food and rent). Again, without parents to fall back on I would be screwed, and that really angers me because I know a lot of people don't even have that option. Seeing how our governments spunk money away frivolously while making life ever more expensive, not building enough housing etc, it is utterly humiliating and a betrayal.

Honestly, there's not much fulfilment in my life. I lift weights twice a week to keep my body and mind better, that definitely works, and my daily 1hr walk is respite. Thankfully I have 1 close friend who gets it, and that is catharsis for us both. Truthfully, the only time I'm genuinely happy is in deep sleep when there is no need of anything. Dreaming used to fulfil me, learning how to lucid dream and astral project. And the odd mystical experience through meditation. But this doesn't offset waking life for me much anymore, the exigencies of life just demand too much without the pay off - this would be tolerable if our way of life were actually living, and not just a sophisticated form of slavery.

Occasionally I get glimpses of hope. Listening to Terence McKenna or others who remind me that I'm not alone and not the only one thinking this way. I feel a surge of love in my heart, and a glimmer of hope, that perhaps something might happen to correct our course. After the covid era though, I have been trying to come to acceptance with death and making mental preparations. Luck might be on my side, on our side, but it might also not be.

Basically, outwardly I'm doing things to try and improve my situation, to grin and bare things, but inwardly I'm doing my own thing and getting ready to possibly see Earth in the rear-view mirror with a sense of relief.
For what it's worth, this is really well-written and heartfelt.
 
I dropped out of society in 2017 because of disability. Only recently am I trying to make a go of it again.

I honestly hate the human world and if I can't figure out a path that works for me I'll just drop out again.
 
Yes during my 2 years on Kratom . Didn't want to go anywhere , do anything just wanted to be comfortable on my couch and just wanted to get thru the day. . Kratom turned on me causing panic attacks , tachycardia, fatigue and anger .. I'm day 13 cold turkey today and feeling better everyday . That stuff is poison and has bad withdrawals , don't use it more than a few days to get off something else !!!!!
 
I've been like that for much of the past 18 months. Haven't been to a gym. Exercise consists of walking and hiking. Have had sex like twice in the past year. Only talk to friends on the phone. I work at about 25% of the capacity I was doing three years ago.

Honestly, it's lonely. Very lonely. My dog is my sole companion. I am reinventing my life shortly, up to and including buying a professional services business. I almost fear I won't be able to function in any of the categories you mentioned. I've been clean of illegal drugs for 18 months and benzos for 14 months. I drink occasionally, and usually regret it. Had 4 drinks last weekend - first in some months - and all I could think about was ordering cocaine. Still smoking cigs.

I am seriously considering joining AA or NA just to learn how to socialize again. I'm not sure my mind is capable of increasing my work load. Eventually, I will have to hire and manage people. Not sure if I can do that again.

So in short, dropping out of life is easy if you can afford it. Climbing out if you want to seems to me to be a challenge.
Yeah managing people is rough. I do that for a living as well. Operations

Okay- so yeah of course. All humans generally experience darkness at some point in their life. And I don’t mean to make less of anyone’s pain. I know you are hurting or lost or angry at the injustices of the world and well living in it.

BUT- I used to think all humans were evil and should become extinct. I really believed that and for a long long time.



But that’s false. Humans are kind and do good for others too. Of course it’s easier to be bad than good especially in our society where we glorify ALL the wrong shit. We are like a narcissistic society I feel now in America. It’s all about me me me and who offended me today or didn’t do what I wanted or I DESERVED.

And then I found beauty in the world. I’m not going to lie. I tripped on psilocybin and saw beauty. So much beauty.

And then I started thinking about it. I met good ppl on bluelight. My therapist is good person who I think authentically cares about people and me. I used to think my wife was a good person but I question that today. She is a very hatefilled person who takes her issues out on everyone else. Granted she also suffers from mental illness but that’s not an excuse to constantly treat people like that and gas light me saying I’m bipolar when i am not diagnosed bipolar just because I talk alot.

Really I just talk a lot because I have no one at all to talk to lol and so when I get the chance I tend to talk a lot. I’m a people person these days I guess.

I digress, then I found some inspirational people that really are standing for good and doing good in the world and then I found more people like themz

So i ask myself how and why did this happen? My focus changed. I was no longer allowing my depression and conditioning to twist my perceptions. I dont mean that there isn’t evil in the world. No. Not at all. There is a war between good and evil going on and I am not taking religion. I’m talking good ppl and bad ppl. Good energy and bad energy. That war.

But what I mean is there is also beauty and people who strive to be the best person they can be that helps others around them and make it there mission to live best life they can and help
Others to do the same
 
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I feel like I pretty much dropped out a long time ago. I remember when I was a kid (I've been depressed since I was 8) there was some mental health evaluator person asking me, "Do you WANT friends/to socialize?" and I started crying and just said yes. I'm pretty sure I thought about it later that day and didn't agree anymore with what I told them, like maybe I was just depressed (I was) and saying something that I thought was expected, or that could possibly help since I was helpless even then. I can't remember a time I actually felt like I needed companionship or relationships. And that's rough. I try to find some kind of solution for why I'm so disconnected from life and everyone just keeps going to relationships. It's like, I have hobbies I love, but I often don't have motivation to engage with them. The only kind of trauma I might have is medical, not social/familial. I have a job and I'm pretty functional in life. I have no desire to "move up" in the world, since I really just want a quiet life with my hobbies.
At that age depressed is astonishing.

"Resiliency" you mentioned, is what I felt really worded my opinion my view on society. Not taking part of this shit of status, dumping your friend's or cheating your loved ones.

And especially towards our so called social system aimed at money making through stigmatizing. So sorry for the people enduring since childhood. I always considered my kid's and most other's special beings compared to adult's.
 
Can you garygroundwork pinpoint when you dropped out? Just read you haven't.

After fighting the sysytem for 10 year's. My drop-out occured september 2018, I still fight though more for myself as justice is just a word in a book, not an actual practice..

But that september, I was divorced, my ex asked me if I could keep an eye on my kid's as she had something.

She didn't mention she was going on here first date, although the kid's gave enough sign's there was something up. They were instructed to lie. That really broke my soul.

So I know how it feels, just lucky that I was adult when this happened. Lots, including my ex, had terrible childhood's. Wish you all are rooting again and re-inventing yourself. Don't turn to the darkest side.

And I got an other addition to add to negative consequence's.

Your birthday: "Happy ...." . Like saying to someone who just suffered great loss "Hey how are you?"
 
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Can you garygroundwork pinpoint when you dropped out? Just read you haven't.

After fighting the sysytem for 10 year's. My drop-out occured september 2018, I still fight though more for myself as justice is just a word in a book, not an actual practice..

But that september, I was divorced, my ex asked me if I could keep an eye on my kid's as she had something.

She didn't mention she was going on here first date, although the kid's gave enough sign's there was something up. They were instructed to lie. That really broke my soul.

So I know how it feels, just lucky that I was adult when this happened. Lots, including my ex, had terrible childhood's. Wish you all are rooting again and re-inventing yourself. Don't turn to the darkest side.

And I got an other addition to add to negative consequence's.

Your birthday: "Happy ...." . Like saying to someone who just suffered great loss "Hey how are you?"

I haven't but I'm the verge. Part of me wants too. Just done with the every day grind.

When you say you dropped out, how so? Did you lose complete access to your kids?
 
When I say dropped out of life I mean:

stopped caring about working
stopped caring about relationships
stopped caring about gym and exercise
stopped caring about social life

How was it?? What did you do?? Positives and negatives?

Yeah. That’s all typical addict behavior.

Did it for 17 years. No positives. All negatives. 10/10 would not recommend.
 
I guess im kinda removed from that as i live way the fuck in the country, i don't work, am single and don't socialize alot. I lft alot of weights but other then thsat ive dropped out of life abit or rather modern society.
 
I haven't but I'm the verge. Part of me wants too. Just done with the every day grind.

When you say you dropped out, how so? Did you lose complete access to your kids?
Yes about, for DUI but I haven't got a licence or car. Then in my stupidity I applied to counseling thinking it was just about the drinking with kids around. But the Psychic healthcare are friends with the cop's so they give them all names and who knows what about their client's. An then you are stigmatized.

Totally against the law on privacy. But that is just like my kid's the situation I am in, not seeing my kid's according the parrenting plan. The shittiest is only a fam/ children judge can do that on paper. But in reality this situation has never seen a judge, only about 7 different childcare judged based on assumption's. Actually 8, except 1 thought there was nothing wrong with me. And supported me without succes.

Gladly I have been labeled unfit to work about 18 years ago. Also on a wrong condition thanks to my then stupid dr. But as result they just leave me alone. Saves them trouble I guess, dealing with a case where they broke the law from a client isn't to high on their list.


Well at least I reached 50. Age help's, it slows down your want's and need's. Rounds the corner's so to say. What about your age and situation that got you to the point of posting.
 
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Well at least I reached 50. Age help's, it slows down your want's and need's. Rounds the corner's so to say. What about your age and situation that got you to the point of posting.

Not far off you.

As you get older u want to chill.

Can be less and less fucked with the fight of relationships, work, money, fitness, discipline routine etc... the battle gets harder.

But yeah more specifically relationship issues, money ripped off by family, gambling, no joy without drugs, over 9 to 5 grind ... I guess it all builds up.
 
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I guess im kinda removed from that as i live way the fuck in the country, i don't work, am single and don't socialize alot. I lft alot of weights but other then thsat ive dropped out of life abit or rather modern society.

Interesting... what do you do with your time?

Addictions?
 
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