So I decided to try oilahuasca, it seemed pretty interesting and I have access to a ton of essential oils and aroma chemicals. But I feel that these materials bring a toxic load and don't even work anyway. It seems to be almost all theory, really can anyone even provide a succesful trip report in this category??
In summary, cassia cinnamon bark oil contains toxic levels of coumarin, even in 1-2 drops (if my calculations are correct). I beleive clove oils has know toxic effects as well. Basically the majority of the allyl benzene category has toxic/carcinogenic effects on the liver, kidney and other areas to some extent. Essential oils are very strong, and when taken in the manner required, are likely to multiply a cascade of toxicity. Inhibiting the enzymes that break these compounds down doesn't seem smart. They would build up in the system and provide unknown/untested effects on the body. And including piperine/pepper in the mix is only increasing the revipe for disaster. It inhibits a BBB transporter and allows more chems to pass directly into the brain.
I beleive that the more unhealthy your organs are, the more likely these combinations are to work. The cinnamon bark's part of the equation is to remove glutathione from the liver, that is one of the main antioxidants and a good sign of liver resilience. Maybe the mix didn't work on me because I have been supplementing with adaptogens for a few months, things like bupleurum, sulfurophane, schizandra, MSM, alkaline ionized water etc. Which are known to boost liver enzymes. I really began to question, is this mix basically undoing all the beneficial effects on my body, so a chem can slip through the defenses and get me high? It appears so.
Also most of these oils would be conscidered "hot" oils in multiple schools of though about herbs. They bring a chemical/energetic heat into the body which can throw off different balances and processes. Many people have too much heat to begin with, these herbs can unbalance the body and bring heat/stress to the liver especially. In someone who smokes and eats a lot of red meat etc, this could really put a lot of strain on the liver.
Here is a short trip report of what I tried, I am writing this on day 3 after thinking about everything and feeling the toxic effects. Definitely doesn't seem to be worth it and doesn't live up to the hype some pages seem to promote.
Day 1 I tried:
[I had pomegranite/blueberry juice earlier which might of killed the effects via quercetin]
3 biotin gummies (mistaked this for vit b9)
In drops:
4 cassia, 5 citral
1-2 sweet flag/calamus
1 piperine/ashwaganda cap (20mgs)
2 clove bud, .8 chamomile german,
100+% of DV of magnesium and calcium
2 trace mineral pills
(Waited about 45 min then)
Ate in coconut oil:
4 basil chavicol variety
1 parsley seed
And maybe some other oil
I felt good, an increase in energy and wellbeing but it really just seemed to be from the initial cinnamon dose (which was well above toxic levels of coumarin already.) There was a very slight sparkle it seemed, but not a nice euphoria anything like a psychedelic.
Day 2
In drops when applicable:
5 b50 complex (about 60% dv of folate)
7 a-bisabolol
4 clove bud
300mg berberine (then got a capsule of 300mg stuck in my throat due to a pretty heavy esophagus cramp! This happens to me at times but seemed to be triggered by the experiment)
2 blue chamomile (german)
6 citral
1/3 piperidine/ashwaganda cap(7mg)
About 1 cup of coffee with vanillin and cinnamon powder
40% of DV of magnesium
2 trace mineral pills
(Waited about 45 min then)
Dermally I put on about 15 drops of elemi, 4 basil chavicol, 10 parsley seed france
And rectally I used 1-2ml of nutmeg oil at 33%
Then redosed about 2ml maybe an hour later.
I felt something psychoactive, like some sort of very light, non euphoric stoniness which lasted for 3 hrs or something.
I then delt with the capsule being stuck in my throat/throat spasm all day!! It just wouldn't back down like normal!
At the end of the day I felt like crap, hardly any food or water all day. My legs starting to cramp (which is very rare for me, I never cramps or get twitches and I eat a pretty mineral rich diet.) And a pretty solid dysphoria seemingly from the toxic load. An uncomfortableness and inability to sleep until about 4 am. The throat cramp did release and I slipped into sleep for a few minutes. Thank God because I really needed some water. Who knows how that increased the toxicity but definitely didn't feel good.
If you want to trip just get some regular psychedelics! This stuff sucked! I'm glad I didn't get organ failure or something!
In summary, cassia cinnamon bark oil contains toxic levels of coumarin, even in 1-2 drops (if my calculations are correct). I beleive clove oils has know toxic effects as well. Basically the majority of the allyl benzene category has toxic/carcinogenic effects on the liver, kidney and other areas to some extent. Essential oils are very strong, and when taken in the manner required, are likely to multiply a cascade of toxicity. Inhibiting the enzymes that break these compounds down doesn't seem smart. They would build up in the system and provide unknown/untested effects on the body. And including piperine/pepper in the mix is only increasing the revipe for disaster. It inhibits a BBB transporter and allows more chems to pass directly into the brain.
I beleive that the more unhealthy your organs are, the more likely these combinations are to work. The cinnamon bark's part of the equation is to remove glutathione from the liver, that is one of the main antioxidants and a good sign of liver resilience. Maybe the mix didn't work on me because I have been supplementing with adaptogens for a few months, things like bupleurum, sulfurophane, schizandra, MSM, alkaline ionized water etc. Which are known to boost liver enzymes. I really began to question, is this mix basically undoing all the beneficial effects on my body, so a chem can slip through the defenses and get me high? It appears so.
Also most of these oils would be conscidered "hot" oils in multiple schools of though about herbs. They bring a chemical/energetic heat into the body which can throw off different balances and processes. Many people have too much heat to begin with, these herbs can unbalance the body and bring heat/stress to the liver especially. In someone who smokes and eats a lot of red meat etc, this could really put a lot of strain on the liver.
Here is a short trip report of what I tried, I am writing this on day 3 after thinking about everything and feeling the toxic effects. Definitely doesn't seem to be worth it and doesn't live up to the hype some pages seem to promote.
Day 1 I tried:
[I had pomegranite/blueberry juice earlier which might of killed the effects via quercetin]
3 biotin gummies (mistaked this for vit b9)
In drops:
4 cassia, 5 citral
1-2 sweet flag/calamus
1 piperine/ashwaganda cap (20mgs)
2 clove bud, .8 chamomile german,
100+% of DV of magnesium and calcium
2 trace mineral pills
(Waited about 45 min then)
Ate in coconut oil:
4 basil chavicol variety
1 parsley seed
And maybe some other oil
I felt good, an increase in energy and wellbeing but it really just seemed to be from the initial cinnamon dose (which was well above toxic levels of coumarin already.) There was a very slight sparkle it seemed, but not a nice euphoria anything like a psychedelic.
Day 2
In drops when applicable:
5 b50 complex (about 60% dv of folate)
7 a-bisabolol
4 clove bud
300mg berberine (then got a capsule of 300mg stuck in my throat due to a pretty heavy esophagus cramp! This happens to me at times but seemed to be triggered by the experiment)
2 blue chamomile (german)
6 citral
1/3 piperidine/ashwaganda cap(7mg)
About 1 cup of coffee with vanillin and cinnamon powder
40% of DV of magnesium
2 trace mineral pills
(Waited about 45 min then)
Dermally I put on about 15 drops of elemi, 4 basil chavicol, 10 parsley seed france
And rectally I used 1-2ml of nutmeg oil at 33%
Then redosed about 2ml maybe an hour later.
I felt something psychoactive, like some sort of very light, non euphoric stoniness which lasted for 3 hrs or something.
I then delt with the capsule being stuck in my throat/throat spasm all day!! It just wouldn't back down like normal!
At the end of the day I felt like crap, hardly any food or water all day. My legs starting to cramp (which is very rare for me, I never cramps or get twitches and I eat a pretty mineral rich diet.) And a pretty solid dysphoria seemingly from the toxic load. An uncomfortableness and inability to sleep until about 4 am. The throat cramp did release and I slipped into sleep for a few minutes. Thank God because I really needed some water. Who knows how that increased the toxicity but definitely didn't feel good.
If you want to trip just get some regular psychedelics! This stuff sucked! I'm glad I didn't get organ failure or something!
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