riverofheaven
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Hello guys! This is my first post ever on this forum, iv'e been lurking it for quite some time.
So what i have wondering for a long time is why are the effects from methylphenidate so different compared to any time of amphetamine (2-FMA, amphetamine sulfate, adderall, meth).
I'm diagnosed with ADHD in my country and have been prescribed concerta. I started with 18mg and i just couldn't feel this dose at all, so i adjusted the dose with my doctor to 36mg. Now here i could barely feel the effects, so it wasn't good as well. At last we went to 54mg and this one did have obvious effects, but they were not in any way quite good...
Basically at this time i still didn't know any other stimulant then methylphenidate so i couldn't compare effects yet, but basically they were wierd, main problem was this constant background anxiety and dry heaving like feeling (will compare effects in the next part with amphetamines i tried).
Now cause i was a 1st year medical student at that time and had a crisis that i will completely fail university because the only adhd med present being concerta, i looked into the darkweb realm and grey market of research chems. So i decided to buy 2-FMA. Now this God sent chemical saved my whole semester and im still thankful for it till this day. I used it the next semester as well and it still made me pass it. But after this i started having health anxiety about the rumor of 2-FMA being very cardiotoxic so i stopped taking it and instead turned to the dark web and bough amphetamine sulfate. Now amphetamine sulfate was...different from 2-FMA, it was still miles better then Concerta but it had more like body stimulation compared to the calm feeling of 2-FMA. I may make a future thread on some interesting stuff i noticed between these two.
To get to the main differences i noticed between methylphenidate and amphetamine:
Methylphenidate: Kicks in after 30 minutes, half of the time it kicks in with an alert feeling but SOMETIMES it actually kicks in with making me yawn a lot and have a heavy feeling on my eyelids which stops later. The huge problem with methylphenidate is how the best part of it is basically the first 1 hour at best, actually i may like that "euphoria" more then the one from amphetamines. It's more cold, edgy, empathethic, talkative, i love talking with someone during that first hour, can feel amazing. But then it happens, after the first 1 hour it has this almost abrupt change where i get this constant background paranoia and anxiety, for example unexpected noises terrify me, when my mom opens some door in the house i get this cortisol attack in my body. Next is how asocial i become and how i lose my emotions, i just can't talk with people about anything other then something super technical, it feels like i become autistic during the whole duration. Now for helping my ADHD it's honestly trash, the anxiety is too much to study as well as this wierd dry heaving feeling i constantly have.
Amphetamines: Kick in around 20 minutes, the initial rush feels very different from methylphenidate yet still a familiar stimualant feeling. It is more like a warm feeling in my torso, legs and arms rather then a cold edgy feeling of methylphenidate, but its not social like methylphenidate, it makes me hyperfocused on something im doing. The rush fades after 1 hour but in comparison to methylphenidate, the effects are absolutely lovely, they are the same like the rush just much more mellow, there is just slight background anxiety at best but its laughable small compared to methylphenidate, and the motivation keeps going for hours, so it manages my adhd quite well.
So what i have wondering for a long time is why are the effects from methylphenidate so different compared to any time of amphetamine (2-FMA, amphetamine sulfate, adderall, meth).
I'm diagnosed with ADHD in my country and have been prescribed concerta. I started with 18mg and i just couldn't feel this dose at all, so i adjusted the dose with my doctor to 36mg. Now here i could barely feel the effects, so it wasn't good as well. At last we went to 54mg and this one did have obvious effects, but they were not in any way quite good...
Basically at this time i still didn't know any other stimulant then methylphenidate so i couldn't compare effects yet, but basically they were wierd, main problem was this constant background anxiety and dry heaving like feeling (will compare effects in the next part with amphetamines i tried).
Now cause i was a 1st year medical student at that time and had a crisis that i will completely fail university because the only adhd med present being concerta, i looked into the darkweb realm and grey market of research chems. So i decided to buy 2-FMA. Now this God sent chemical saved my whole semester and im still thankful for it till this day. I used it the next semester as well and it still made me pass it. But after this i started having health anxiety about the rumor of 2-FMA being very cardiotoxic so i stopped taking it and instead turned to the dark web and bough amphetamine sulfate. Now amphetamine sulfate was...different from 2-FMA, it was still miles better then Concerta but it had more like body stimulation compared to the calm feeling of 2-FMA. I may make a future thread on some interesting stuff i noticed between these two.
To get to the main differences i noticed between methylphenidate and amphetamine:
Methylphenidate: Kicks in after 30 minutes, half of the time it kicks in with an alert feeling but SOMETIMES it actually kicks in with making me yawn a lot and have a heavy feeling on my eyelids which stops later. The huge problem with methylphenidate is how the best part of it is basically the first 1 hour at best, actually i may like that "euphoria" more then the one from amphetamines. It's more cold, edgy, empathethic, talkative, i love talking with someone during that first hour, can feel amazing. But then it happens, after the first 1 hour it has this almost abrupt change where i get this constant background paranoia and anxiety, for example unexpected noises terrify me, when my mom opens some door in the house i get this cortisol attack in my body. Next is how asocial i become and how i lose my emotions, i just can't talk with people about anything other then something super technical, it feels like i become autistic during the whole duration. Now for helping my ADHD it's honestly trash, the anxiety is too much to study as well as this wierd dry heaving feeling i constantly have.
Amphetamines: Kick in around 20 minutes, the initial rush feels very different from methylphenidate yet still a familiar stimualant feeling. It is more like a warm feeling in my torso, legs and arms rather then a cold edgy feeling of methylphenidate, but its not social like methylphenidate, it makes me hyperfocused on something im doing. The rush fades after 1 hour but in comparison to methylphenidate, the effects are absolutely lovely, they are the same like the rush just much more mellow, there is just slight background anxiety at best but its laughable small compared to methylphenidate, and the motivation keeps going for hours, so it manages my adhd quite well.