Red Borneo with or without a bit of Green Malay. My favorit's.Wgat is the best kratom for withdrawal from H
I think I need to try this..I have always used capsules or toss n wash and lately I just don't get the desired effect besides getting rid of some feverish chills.An extract…. Leaf is useless ime
Disagreed, the whole leaf micro powdered works fine.An extract…. Leaf is useless ime
I kinda agree with this, I never used kratom for H but when I started playing with pod tea I had to figure out how addictive it was so after 2 weeks of dosing 3x a week I ran out of the lb of pods I had and tried kratom powder which usually holds me after I shoot my month of oxys in a week but when I combined it with a couple weeks of pod tea (3x a week the powder kratom needed to be redosed every few hrs so I went out and found the black extract locally and it held me for 8 hrs ,so I’d say if you have a full blown H habit you’ll find much more relief with extract over powder ,I never used kratom more than 5-6 days in a row because of fear of getting a kratom habit ,I would try extract for the first 3-4 days then switch to powder and see if it’ll holds you ( don’t get hooked on extract), I like Red Bali powder I tried the green powder once and tossed it because it was to speedy for me which is not what you want while in withdrawals, black is a good extract for withdrawals..An extract…. Leaf is useless ime
Yea for the first couple days leaf did nothing for me, the extracts were the only thing to manage the WD, and it didn’t take wd away completely, just made it bearableI kinda agree with this, I never used kratom for H but when I started playing with pod tea I had to figure out how addictive it was so after 2 weeks of dosing 3x a week I ran out of the lb of pods I had and tried kratom powder which usually holds me after I shoot my month of oxys in a week but when I combined it with a couple weeks of pod tea (3x a week the powder kratom needed to be redosed every few hrs so I went out and found the black extract locally and it held me for 8 hrs ,so I’d say if you have a full blown H habit you’ll find much more relief with extract over powder ,I never used kratom more than 5-6 days in a row because of fear of getting a kratom habit ,I would try extract for the first 3-4 days then switch to powder and see if it’ll holds you ( don’t get hooked on extract), I like Red Bali powder I tried the green powder once and tossed it because it was to speedy for me which is not what you want while in withdrawals, black is a good extract for withdrawals..
Rather the opposite, out of the extracts I've tried only one, black tar like extract was really powerful, the usual suspects are weaker than they should (e.g. a 20x only coming with 5x the potency).An extract…. Leaf is useless ime
Well I think for fentanyl style withdrawal kratom is too weak. First time I ran out of morphine tramadol was all I got and it did next to nothing but after a few days eventually it would take the worst and I could sleep. Maybe supplement with pregabalin on top if you can get that.Never had a strong opioid habit dependence myself, but I know a friend of mine who had a decent oxy habit had to use an ounce of plain leaf kratom to get any noticeable relief from withdrawal. So unless you taper first or get an extract it may not be very economical to try and use kratom for heroin withdrawal. Even more so if fentanyl is involved.
Yet with extracts you ruin the whole good thing about Kratom which is that it regulates your use in a natural way.An extract…. Leaf is useless ime
I found even extracts to be self-limiting, I had what was sold as 20x extract and while the first dose got me surprisingly high, what followed felt like the same sort of plateau I get with powdered leaves, a limit of highness where more would just induce more side effects. Just said black tar like extract which had me nodding very hard was the only exception. I think the price for extracts is mostly not worth it.Yet with extracts you ruin the whole good thing about Kratom which is that it regulates your use in a natural way.
Anyone with a somewhat serious habit will need an extract, someone with a small habit trying to tell someone with a large H habit how to manage WD will be a fail everytime :/Never had a strong opioid habit dependence myself, but I know a friend of mine who had a decent oxy habit had to use an ounce of plain leaf kratom to get any noticeable relief from withdrawal. So unless you taper first or get an extract it may not be very economical to try and use kratom for heroin withdrawal. Even more so if fentanyl is involved.
Granted, chugging down all the powder isn't the prettiest task to do but I remember somebody here on BL who had a 100g/day habit of kratom leaves.This thread isn’t about getting high, it’s about comming off H and any serious habit leaf won’t do much if anything, your gonna need an extract or be willing to throw back an oz+ of powder , yea I’ll take the extract