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TDS Is killing yourself really the answer to all suffering?

Nico,man you are so young and smart.I wish you have move again-ride a bike,goin' to beaches etc.No doubt you suffer a lot,but you got the strenght to push through this.I think about suicide often too....but Jack is right...even it could be escape from life or sufferings that would broke your loved ones...so despite of pain you must live......for the others....there is people for whom your life is of greater importance than for you.All this fits in my case too.Try to keep your spirit high....i know the burden of depression.Deep inside myself i know,that you be able to walk normally again sooner,than you expect.
 
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Nas47 said:
Nico,man you are so young and smart.I wish you have move again-ride a bike,goin' to beaches etc.No doubt you suffer a lot,but you got the strenght to push through this.I think about suicide often too....but Jack is right...even it could be escape from life or sufferings that would broke your loved ones...so despite of pain you must live......for the others....there is people for whom your life is of greater importance than for you.All this fits in my case too.Try to keep your spirit high....i know the burden of depression.Deep inside myself i know,that you be able to walk normally again sooner,than you expect.
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Ik bro, dw. I've already accepted my condition. I was asking more for a buddy of mine who <snip> is struggling pretty hardcore with depression <snip>. I'm not passing through a good time either but my darkest period is slowly subsiding and I'm in a better mood these days. If it wasn't for my friends(both IRL and online) idk where I would be right now, so I wanna thank you and everyone else who cares and supports me :3.
 
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I don't believe in suicide except for cases where a person is suffering from a terminal illness. Mental illness can be treated so there is no reason to kill yourself over it. I had psychosis and cotards syndrome about 2 and a half years ago and thought i was dead. Thinking i was dead sucked cause there is nothing really to do when your dead. But killing yourself is a very permant solution to a temporary problem. Plus there is so much to miss out on if your dead. You can't have a beer, get high, get laid have a meal anything really. It sounds awful to me.

When i had cotards syndrome i thought i was in purgotiory as well and it fucking sucked. death just does not sound fun to me at all. Any problem can be fixed as long as your above ground really is the way i look at it. You can't fix being dead though.
 
FuckinAcidMan said:
If you kill yourself you'll just come back as some other dude who will suffer.

We are here to learn particular lessons. They vary from person to person, but they are definitely a big part of why we are alive as humans.

If you can transcend suffering and learn to bear life with its rough edges and all, your reward is not having to come back and exist on this physical plane again. I suppose you could for kicks if you really wanted to but I doubt you would want to return having learned what needed to be learned.

I've wanted to die many times and usually it was when I was without money without close friends and without a sense of community or togetherness. In making peace with myself and learning to live for things I find valuable at my core it has become easier to make my way along without feeling like I am unable to gain traction or fit in.
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Nice answer, but how can you be certain this is true?
As far as I know, nobody has come back from the dead to tell us what's up.
Just sayin.
 
Don't know but I'm tempted to find out
If it wasn't I'd be so fucking annoyed...imagine coming back and back again and having to re-kill yourself. If it meant lights out it would be nice not to have to feel this way and it gets better then worse again. People think I don't take life seriously the thing is I can't it's always been a big fucking joke to me it's a survival thing. I'm stupid and I don't appreciate anything so I just laugh my way through this pathetic existence and I'm so lucky if u put things into perspective...I don't really deserve to be here. I want to be dead but people don't deserve the suffering which will be left and it wouldn't be fair (I think I'm so fucking important)
I can't verbalise what's going on inside my head just now, I hide it well irl, my suicide note will be shit
Sometimes problems aren't temporary that's why that one doesn't work for me. But defo for a lot of people it's temporary problem and just not thinking straight. I just want the suffering to end. Nobody gets me. And I'm not wanting attention I just can't talk to anyone or verbalise myself the way I want to
I think we can stay in this together... If you can do it in your situation I'll keep being a moaning faced bastard and stay here for untill my times up so unlucky everyone
 
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I Truly don't wanna die BUT I don't wanna live like this either. I'm suffering so fucking much everyday, if it wasn't for morphine I'd be scratching the wall literally. Keeps me sane. It truly is the panacea, treats both my physical and mental pain + opiates are the best antidepressants there exist. I got a shitload zoloft on my drawer like 100+ pills but I haven't touched em cause I can't stand the side fx and morphine treats my depression better. Yeppp
 
Death is never the answer, because who know's what's on the other side? Could be something far worse than you could ever imagine in this world.

In saying that, sometime's I wonder if this world is actually hell. It does seems to be mostly pain and suffering and appears to just keep getting worse and worse over time. Not to mention that we're all owned and controlled by soulless demons. If that's the case, then death is likely impossible and I'd just end up right back here again in a different form.
 
nznity said:
I Truly don't wanna die BUT I don't wanna live like this either. I'm suffering so fucking much everyday, if it wasn't for morphine I'd be scratching the wall literally. Keeps me sane. It truly is the panacea, treats both my physical and mental pain + opiates are the best antidepressants there exist. I got a shitload zoloft on my drawer like 100+ pills but I haven't touched em cause I can't stand the side fx and morphine treats my depression better. Yeppp
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How did it go with the doctor, seeing them about your arm? Have you got any idea about moving forward to get your arm better? I think that would make you feel a lot better about everything, right?
 
n3ophy7e said:
How did it go with the doctor, seeing them about your arm? Have you got any idea about moving forward to get your arm better? I think that would make you feel a lot better about everything, right?
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Indeed, I haven't gone yet. This week most likely.
Thx for asking tho, n3o. Feels good to know there's ppl who care 😉😿☺😊
 
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iTry91 said:
Don't know but I'm tempted to find out
If it wasn't I'd be so fucking annoyed...imagine coming back and back again and having to re-kill yourself. If it meant lights out it would be nice not to have to feel this way and it gets better then worse again. People think I don't take life seriously the thing is I can't it's always been a big fucking joke to me it's a survival thing. I'm stupid and I don't appreciate anything so I just laugh my way through this pathetic existence and I'm so lucky if u put things into perspective...I don't really deserve to be here. I want to be dead but people don't deserve the suffering which will be left and it wouldn't be fair (I think I'm so fucking important)
I can't verbalise what's going on inside my head just now, I hide it well irl, my suicide note will be shit
Sometimes problems aren't temporary that's why that one doesn't work for me. But defo for a lot of people it's temporary problem and just not thinking straight. I just want the suffering to end. Nobody gets me. And I'm not wanting attention I just can't talk to anyone or verbalise myself the way I want to
I think we can stay in this together... If you can do it in your situation I'll keep being a moaning faced bastard and stay here for untill my times up so unlucky everyone
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Consider reading and writing. You are exactly right.. almost everyone is forgotten before they even die. So it comes down to a selfish meaning.. what’s important to you. It is the only valid importance.. Piss on the rest of it.. what do you want to do with your life.. it’s all that matters as it’s YOUR life.
 
As to the title question of thread, IDK.
I feel that we dont know that it isnt worse.
Maybe its harder on the other side of what we experience...?
Death may seem like an end but is it? Will we know that it is either way?
 
Am reasonably certain there's no relief in death, as there will be no "I" to perceive it... just complete un-awareness.

When completey unconscious there is no perceivable relief in life's suffering, correct?

I can get on board with the notion of energy continuing post-death in some way....perhaps a kind of return to source on an energtic level...but I'm immensely doubtful of any kind of "I" having an afterlife

So yeah - not the answer...but even though having said that I can still fully understand the impulse to end it
 
Yes it is worth living! This is coming From someone who is autistic (high instances of suicide) and used to cut myself and tried to off myself three times…

I’ve realized we don’t get any do overs, this isn’t a dress rehearsal…yea life is freaking insane sometimes…many autistic friends I’ve had have killed themselves over the last two years and I’m still here… 🤷‍♀️
It’s for a reason I figure, we can be a lifesaver for others struggling with the same things we do now…don’t waste or underestimate your life experiences…they are valuable
 
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Hannah Capps said:
Yes it is worth living! This is coming From someone who is autistic (high instances of suicide) and used to cut myself and tried to off myself three times…

I’ve realized we don’t get any do overs, this isn’t a dress rehearsal…yea life is freaking insane sometimes…many autistic friends I’ve had have killed themselves over the last two years and I’m still here…🤷‍♀️It’s for a reason I figure, we can be a lifesaver for others struggling with the same things we do now…don’t waste or underestimate your life experiences…there valuable.
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Sure thing, I'm a quite unpredictable person though with a low tolerance to frustration. I've already attempted to kill myself on so many times I've lost count of it(more than 5 I think, always drugged out of my mind too) nevertheless, I'm still here I think for a reason too. I'm so soooo soooooo tired of being in pain, suffering psychologically but what can I do? I just let myself go with the wave, I don't push things anymore. I feel free.
 
Because of my faith I don't feel that it's not my decision to make. I know this isn't all there is. I feel like life is kinda equivilaent to being at an airport...waiting on your flight home. But I've contemplated suicide before. Life can really suck at times. Sometimes it get too painful to exist. But what essentially always stops me from considering further is the thought of my children. This world has made a target out of their image of me. They did deserve better. I want to at least give them a better legacy of their mother. I think of someone asking them "what happened to your mother". I don't want their answer to be that I took myself out
 
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