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Rikodeine addiction

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Hi,
I’m new to the site and joined specifically to get some advice of how to stop using Rikodeine. I’m a recovering addict with 19 years clean from heroin addiction.
Ive stupidly developed a dependence on Rikodeine which has been going on for almost a year. I’m trying to taper off but of course have slip ups. The most I would take would be about a bottle (200ml) but usually I take about 80mls per day. I have managed to get down to 50mg and would love to jump off but I’m scared of withdrawals.
my questions are:
1. Does anyone know the conversion rate of rikodeine to heroin (so I can gauge withdrawals).
2. Do you think I will even go through physical withdrawals?
3. Has anyone gone through this and can suggest a reasonable plan of reducing/getting off it.
Thanks so much in advance. I appreciate all input but would ask that judgement be left out.
Thanks
 
Assuming Rikodeine is codeine
Since I've never heard of it I'm guessing you maybe live in another country one that allows it to be purchased over the counter. How much is in 10 milliliters or about 2 teaspoons?
 
That is amazing you have been off junk for that long I tip my imaginary hat to you!
 
darvocet21 said:
Assuming Rikodeine is codeine
Since I've never heard of it I'm guessing you maybe live in another country one that allows it to be purchased over the counter. How much is in 10 milliliters or about 2 teaspoons?
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Thanks for your reply. The label says dihydrocodeine 19mg per 10 ml. I live in Australia, where this is still available over counter
 
You will probably experience withdrawal, and dihydrocodeine would be something like ~1/20th the strength of diacetylmorphine
 
Coconutroll said:
Thanks for your reply. The label says dihydrocodeine 19mg per 10 ml. I live in Australia, where this is still available over counter
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Thanks, I learned the following:
the good news is that you are habituated to a very low dose of a drug with so few kicks compared to it's very unpleasant side effects which kick in at doses of just 3 teaspoons or 57mg.+


What you got is equivalent in strength to Codeine. 80 mL x 19mg is equivalent to 152 mg Codeine a day, 5 tablets of garden variety Codeine #3, a widely prescribed opiate in the 20th C. which is ill-advised for that task, as only 10% of an oral dose is converted through first pass metabolism to morphine. Only real effective use in medicine is as an antitussive to prevent and aid in severe coughs. Always gives me a headache, not even worth stealing from your enemy's Mom's medicine cabinet

Comparison to heroin (diamorphine)
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...INCREASE ADVERSE EFFECTS
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It's kids stuff, a belly habit in the parlance of narcotics addicts of the 1950s in New York City and Chicago, mostly African American a large percentage of whom were Jazz artists. And Bill Burroughs and Bill Hunke, go talk to them downtown somewhere probably looking to roll a lush (rob a drunk when he passes out)


Sometimes confused with hydrocodone
(a somewhat stronger though still shite recreational drug marketed under the trade names Vicodin, Norco etc. that's virtually unavailable in every other country except the United States which amazingly and appallingly consumes 99% of the world's hydrocodone production)
 
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negrogesic said:
You will probably experience withdrawal, and dihydrocodeine would be something like ~1/20th the strength of diacetylmorphine
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Are you available for meditation lessons? De-cluttering and simplifying one's life? I might be able to expense it
 
Coconutroll said:
Thanks for your reply. The label says dihydrocodeine 19mg per 10 ml. I live in Australia, where this is still available over counter
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How many milligrams per bottle? How many bottles are you allowed to take? Don't worry I'm not a narc, who in the old days as now probably still have access to the best s*** ... there are some levels best avoided and one is informing
... never informed on nobody in my life and couldn't live with myself if I did.

Thank God there was methadone I took it for over 10 years. If I feared relapse to street drugs I would call a local clinic and make a reservation
 
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All good. I was on methadone also for years, so very keen to not go down that path again. I understand it seems like nothing but I’ve always been a maintainer, taking just enough to get by.
I really appreciate your information and time. Thanks so much!
 
Coconutroll said:
All good. I was on methadone also for years, so very keen to not go down that path again. I understand it seems like nothing but I’ve always been a maintainer, taking just enough to get by.
I really appreciate your information and time. Thanks so much!
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Thank you I never knew that dihydrocodeine is essentially codeine just a little stronger I have a question for you have you heard of dihydrocodeinone bitartate? I'm wondering if it's the same because I was reading a book that's said when Hermann Goering surrendered to Allied Forces he had with him a suitcase allegedly filled with most of Germany's supply of dihydrocodeineone. Probably the addition of the word one is pretty common and can refer position on a Benzene ring or that is the first of a series of syntheses. Or maybe the worst

Anyway I looked it up on Wikipedia
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From the perspective of probability what are the odds that a brand of this drug would randomly be assigned the name Rikoodeine. Maybe a little bit better than the one about the monkeys you know with the typewriters and how long it would take them to compose Shakespeare something along those lines more likely than that definitely more likely than that
 
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I had my happy-time music on this morning, thinking we were gonna discuss Opioids, my favorite subject, only to encounter Nazi shit. As a Jew, I have far too many nightmares already about Luftwaffe pilots carpet bombing my Shtetl. I dug the fact that in the end Goring had to withdraw painfully from Opioids in the custody of his adversaries, awaiting what was essentially a drawn out process that would ultimately be the same as just shooting them in the neck.

Can I just ask a really basic philosophical question here?

Why, does Ryan, a true blue American who loves Freedom and all that, have to withdraw from several grams a day of Heroin, on a steel bed with nothing but water for 27 days for possession of a contaminated needle, while this top Nazi was treated to a masterfully designed protocol of Codeine reduction to keep him comfortable?

OP, why do you want to jump off at this point but not continue reducing?
 
darvocet21 said:
Thank you I never knew that dihydrocodeine is essentially codeine just a little stronger I have a question for you have you heard of dihydrocodeinone bitartate? I'm wondering if it's the same because I was reading a book that's said when Hermann Goering surrendered to Allied Forces he had with him a suitcase allegedly filled with most of Germany's supply of dihydrocodeineone. Probably the addition of the word one is pretty common and can refer position on a Benzene ring or that is the first of a series of syntheses. Or maybe the worst

Anyway I looked it up on Wikipedia
20210926-211310.jpg



From the perspective of probability what are the odds that a brand of this drug would randomly be assigned the name Rikoodeine. Maybe a little bit better than the one about the monkeys you know with the typewriters and how long it would take them to compose Shakespeare something along those lines more likely than that definitely more likely than that
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Heard of dihydrocodeine tartrate (DHC) if that's what u mean? DHC is a semi-synthetic opioid & if I remember rightly is 1.5 - 2 x the strength of codeine although that is regarding analgesic effect. Also worth noting that unlike codeine, DHC has no ceiling amount. DHC is great for wds if ya wanna taper down frm a more powerful opiate/opioid, I've used it many a times to get off heroin & even off my 560mg/day oxycodone habit
 
Use DHC for a rapid taper - takes the edge off but still some discomfort obv. Rather that than bk on methadone which I was on for 19 yrs & came off in December 2019 😁
 
We can get DHC otc here in UK but it's mixed either with ibuprofen or paracetamol (acetominephine) & it's only about 7.5mg DHC per tablet 😕
 
Same with codeine but its only 8mg per tablet along with 500mg paracetamol. My mate does CWE with em, 2 packs of 32 in each as far as I remember
 
Keif' Richards said:
I had my happy-time music on this morning, thinking we were gonna discuss Opioids, my favorite subject, only to encounter Nazi shit. As a Jew, I have far too many nightmares already about Luftwaffe pilots carpet bombing my Shtetl. I dug the fact that in the end Goring had to withdraw painfully from Opioids in the custody of his adversaries, awaiting what was essentially a drawn out process that would ultimately be the same as just shooting them in the neck.

Can I just ask a really basic philosophical question here?

Why, does Ryan, a true blue American who loves Freedom and all that, have to withdraw from several grams a day of Heroin, on a steel bed with nothing but water for 27 days for possession of a contaminated needle, while this top Nazi was treated to a masterfully designed protocol of Codeine reduction to keep him comfortable?

OP, why do you want to jump off at this point but not continue reducing?
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Because I can’t stop myself from slipping up all the time, when I have it.
 
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