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Tryptamines The Small & Handy 5-Bromo-DMT Thread

Mind you this was 10 years ago so I was an arrogant 19 year old that thought he was some enlightened shaman and Terence Mckenna all rolled into one. I got a brilliant idea to do some 5-meo-dmt whilst peaking on 25mg of 2c-e to achieve a state "ego death" cause I was such a tough badass. I probably insufflated 40mg+ or so and I knew within seconds I was fucked and then utter hell ensued. I recall running out of my room as it was all coming on (The body load was like weight of the world imploding) towards the kitchen where my little brother was, screaming I'm dying and I'm dying. At that point I went completely catatonic and according to my brother I was speaking in tongues, hiding under tables and then standing up knocking them over. I Didn't know what, where, when, who anything was. 5-meo-dmt is an odd beast because its not visual, it was just straight into the void or the bardo. It's beyond definition, but I was reduced to nothing and everything simultaneously as I was being pulled across all of space and time. 2c-e is not very safe to mix with other substances let alone in this manner, so I may have died if little brother didn't call the ambulance and tell them I ingested psychs. I remember returning to my body for a second to find myself strapped to a gurney like a mad man with paramedics surrounding me and then I'd fly off the handle again, leave this world and go psychotic. I believe they were able to administer something because the excursions from reality and my surroundings started to lessen in intensity as I made my way back into my body.

I can't even begin to convey the level of fear, panic, and sheer insanity that I experienced. It was shattering and traumatic. I finally started to come around 6 hours later after doctors administered more medication, but I still have this sensation as if I never made it back to baseline. I already had a preexisting anxiety/panic disorder, but I believe this event amplified those problems 100x fold. I was tripping and having an exquisite time on just the 2c-e, but my arrogance knew no bounds back then. I've had no problems with eating tons of acid and smoking copious amounts of n n-dmt, before and since, but this was a different deal. A few years later a had another accidental overdose on a phenethylamine, but that's a different story and was due to being shipped the wrong compound, so at least it wasn't completely through my sheer stupidity. You live and you learn.

Ego death achieved.
Man, that's an insane story, have you tried 5-MeO-DMT again since then?

Ime 5-MeO-DMT is quite visual though, but I haven't gone above 8mg smoked and 15mg insufflated. Didn't understand a thing about both experiences, weird drug at those doses, it felt like a void a non navigatable headspace at the time.
 
Have a sample of this coming in the next couple weeks so I will be starting trials with this one in earlier September most likely. Going to be doing all the doses insufflated I'm thinking and working my way up until I found out how active this stuff is. I will put up a cumulative trip report when I'm done but check in here after the first trial which will be 15mgs after the initial allergy test, then I'm gonna give tolerance time to drop and do 40mgs, wait a few days and then go for 70mgs if I didn't get blown away yet. These are pretty much unnavigated waters and needless to say I'm excited, i will keep you guys posted.
 
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Man, that's an insane story, have you tried 5-MeO-DMT again since then?

Ime 5-MeO-DMT is quite visual though, but I haven't gone above 8mg smoked and 15mg insufflated. Didn't understand a thing about both experiences, weird drug at those doses, it felt like a void a non navigatable headspace at the time.

I was already experiencing a good amount of visuals from the 2c-e, but when the 5-meo-dmt began to take effect the whole world started to dematerialize before my very eyes. Before this incident I already had smoked it 4-5 times in the 10-15mg range and got some pretty intense experiences from it, but I never really enjoyed it to be honest.

It's been 10 years since that hellish episode and I have no desire to go near that stuff ever again.

I am really curious about what kind of effects 5-bro-dmt will produce. I've only heard that it can be somewhat sedating, but that's about it.
 
Not the case for any other non-alpha-alkyl substituted tryptamine, so why would you think that?

It just seems prudent to consider any possibilities given that so little is known about 5-halo tryptamines and their pharmacological properties. I'd rather someone consider the *possibility* of MAO inhibition rather than decide that it is a good idea to decide to try it on top of a plethora of other drugs. I also remember that 5-fluoro-DMT shared some MAOI properties with its alpha alkylated counterparts; I could swear I read that 5-fluoro-DMT has more MAO inhibiting qualities than that of a simple competitive inhibitor. I'll do some digging and see if I can find the reference.

Either way, all reasonable caution is warranted.
 
Well I just decided that next week I'm going to be working on a project to build tHe MaChiNE to Vape that 5-Bromo-Dimethyltryptamine out of I'm rethinking my strategy and that is probably the best bet. Also going to be getting some N, N-Dimethyltryptamine at some point in the coming months so I'm gonna need it for that regardless. Those things work great to the first time I ever smoked DMT was out of one of those with a couple BLers about 12 years ago now.
 
Wasn't "the machine" a thing before ecigs were invented?

I guess these days it's much easier to just dissolve whatever you want to vape in PG and use a regular ecig to vape it.
 
Delsyd just said the same thing to me in the Social thread @roi. May be able to have my friend put part of my DMT into a cartridge for me and I'll get the rest as is. But the 5-Br-DMT is on it's way here from someone else and I'd have to put it into the solution myself and I never done it before. I'm not sure how and I only have 125mgs to work with so i figured Machine would be best cuz it's a pretty small amount. Last year I was vaping MPT and DMT out of a Meth Pipe and it seemed really wasteful and was hard to break thru in the Deemsters. Suppose I could read up a tutorial on how to start making my own PG/DMT to use with a pen if it truly is that effective. What do you think about using a Dab Pen if I picked up one of those?
 
I’ve wondered if the mighty or crafty (from Storz & Bickel) would work with the liquid pads, never tried it though, nor a machine. Always used a gvg, to vape dmt.
 
I highly recommend the yocan evolve plus with ceramic coils for vaping crystal DMT works wonders.

Fuck yeah exactly what I was looking for, used to have a puffed plus but I broke it. I'm assuming this would be similar as i used the one I had in the past for shatter. Will either be getting a Dab Pen or the Glass Vapor Genie. Might as well utilize today's technology like you all are saying. Read lots of threads on the machine and I'm assuming I'd need to buy a drill so I may else well just invest in vaporizer instead.
 
Fuck yeah exactly what I was looking for, used to have a puffed plus but I broke it. I'm assuming this would be similar as i used the one I had in the past for shatter. Will either be getting a Dab Pen or the Glass Vapor Genie. Might as well utilize today's technology like you all are saying. Read lots of threads on the machine and I'm assuming I'd need to buy a drill so I may else well just invest in vaporizer instead.
glass vapor genie is even better. Yocan is nice if you like to hit dabs aswell with ceramic donut coils and beginners to dmt.
 
Fuck yeah exactly what I was looking for, used to have a puffed plus but I broke it. I'm assuming this would be similar as i used the one I had in the past for shatter. Will either be getting a Dab Pen or the Glass Vapor Genie. Might as well utilize today's technology like you all are saying. Read lots of threads on the machine and I'm assuming I'd need to buy a drill so I may else well just invest in vaporizer instead.

Well??? So what happened?

Was thinking about ordering some since its available but im hardly a psychonaut. Also not looking forward to smoking that volume of material.
 
Well I made a pretty poor decision @negrogesic and ended up taking the 5-Br-DMT, BOD, 3C-E, Shrooms in this three day bender mixing stuff when I was on Alprazolam. It was a blast I sniffed lines and it was Swirly but like I said I was on so many drugs at the time it is hard to separate what was what. The whole bender triggered this wacky afterglow and I felt like I was still on drugs for a solid week after I stopped dosing, was a pretty epic time but I failed from scientific aspect surely.
 
Yeah I know that one. That's sort of like my experience with DPT. I know I took a bunch of it, and I know it was weird with a creepy feeling to it, but I was on a lot of benzos and stimulants to get a particularly clear picture of it.

Taking psychedelics on any significant dose of benzos is almost like taking no psychedelics at all. You sort of go through it but never experience it.

Yet whenever I take a significant amount of benzos I almost always get a desire to consume psychedelics, and a doses I would never consider otherwise.

Benzos open up a void in me that I attempt to combat with whatever drug I can find. But it's hard to feel any drug on benzos other than high doses of stimulants.
 
So, has anyone done any research on this compound, or its 5-Cl counterpart, without any other substance(s) involved??
 
I noticed the 5-Cl-DMT as well, I don't think we've bothered setting up a thread for that. Curious about both of these compounds, and how they compare to each other.

Talk about exotic..
 
LOL We cant put that much weight on Charlie. You all have pipes and lungs yourselves. :D But I take it the first ever word used for sea DMT is Swirly. Ah man, I did laugh hard (in a good way). We still have this mystery substance. Then again there are most likely a million mystery substances not even developed yet I think we all hyped it due to the name. But it may pan out to be interesting. I have not tried Yopo yet so I know for myself there are too many things I have not tried.

I will say even the smallest amount of a benzo tones down a trip to less than half the intensity for me. I only use them at the end when I want to come down. I was at a Jazz festival and took a hit of blotter that was very strong and I took 10 mgs of valium to calm myself a little. I was still tripping but way less. Still a great day but there are plenty of posts of people doing crazy things on benzos. Wow, benzo's and DPT. I bet it took the shaking and vibrating down a bit to a lower level.
 
Does anyone know enough about 5-Br-DMT or 5-Cl-DMT to hypothesize if they could have any oral activity without need for MAO inhibition? The doses seem like an awful lot to vaporize properly, in the case of the 5-Br at least. I've seen literally nothing, even theorizing, about what the dose or effects of the 5-Cl compound might be...
 
They are novel and the dosages totally unknown. I would try it as potent as 5-meo-dmt but could be even stronger, so better titrate slowly
 
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