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Can dissociatives be used purely for socializing?

Larimar said:
Oxy is the best social drug, makes you happy , energetic but relaxed , not a care in the world . I know it’s not a dissociative but it’s awesome , I miss it . Kratom helps with mood lift and being social as well.
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Oxy was my first opioid, and i've tried it for this exact reason at dosages 5-15mg with 0 tolerance and while it had very noticable physical effects on me i have not noticed and cognitive effects. IME it's just too expensive with 0 benefits. As weird as it may sound i can feel kratom more than oxy cognitively, but it's still very subtle. I think it has more to do with alkaloids than don't bind directly to opioid receptors.


Brendan12 said:
Regarding DXM.. it's good to know your dose..

If 150mg was too much.. try 100mg for a medium first plateau.. which is energetic and stimulating.. It's fun to dance on this amount.. and goes really well with Ganja..

If that doesn't work.. you should try a second plateau dose.. starting around 220mg to under the 400mg.. This is when the so called "magic" begins.. objectivity.. Robo walking.. dissolution of boundaries.. including social stigma and subjective thoughts being almost completely obliterated.
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As far as socializing goes 150mg would be too much for me. It was below plateau dose considering my weight and general side effects weren't too bad for tripping at home. I'm about to try 210mg and see if i get nauseated again and also to explore dissasociatve side of it. Next time i'm going to sharply reduce dosage to about 90mg and see if it's suitable for socializing.
 
I think the physical response mechanism of the bodies vehicle for communication for example the throat can be impaired..

But the lucid thought or the internal flow of thoughts and understanding objective truth.. is an internal communication of the subjective host/mind-body which could be called a "flow state".. but may not be communicable to the external.. which is comprised of other beings..

So the physical response might get turned off but the internal dialog increases
 
some psychedelics do have the power but imo if you have none of that effect from MDMA possibly you would have to explore different tryptamines/ phenethylamines , small doses of ketamine can be a bit of a social lubricant if your familiar with it but its better suited for being in your bed in a K HOLE . never tried DXM tbh
 
Bare_head said:
some psychedelics do have the power but imo if you have none of that effect from MDMA possibly you would have to explore different tryptamines/ phenethylamines , small doses of ketamine can be a bit of a social lubricant if your familiar with it but its better suited for being in your bed in a K HOLE . never tried DXM tbh
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Been through a period of daily MXE use and it was not persee socializing. But an excellent antidepressant, anxiolitic and stimulant.

It was after MXE that I saw some use in DXM. To bad it was gone by that time.
 
Bare_head said:
some psychedelics do have the power but imo if you have none of that effect from MDMA possibly you would have to explore different tryptamines/ phenethylamines , small doses of ketamine can be a bit of a social lubricant if your familiar with it but its better suited for being in your bed in a K HOLE . never tried DXM tbh
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I liked 2ci as a social compound. It was just trippy enough on the mind at 13 mg insufflated that made for great conversation, without getting confused or stumbling over my words or forgetting what i was saying. Which are things i have difficulty with when talking to people on LSD for instance. However i think that has more to do with the meta awareness of LSD and thinking that other people know youve taken acid. "Hey man...that acid head looks like hes on acid" lol
 
^2c-c and DOC (at lower doses) are both good for socializing as well. Assuming you're comfortable with psychedelics at least.
 
never got to try 2C-C, 2C-I was crazy trippy for me though, found 2ct-21 to be very good for socialising though, probably had the proper dose with that as i was eyeballing 2c-i at one point (yes not my finest moment but still felt safe drug)

2C-B has that social aspect to it somewhat, but tbh its never a good drug to take in public i used to just snort 10mg or whatever and watch the colours and hd surroundings awe me :D

OP i would say try GHB if u want a social drug, its very much like alcohol but you dont get that horrid hangover from it, be careful with dosing but its very much a good social lubricant when u get the dose right :D get it wrong and u may fall asleep/ od
 
Bare_head said:
never got to try 2C-C, 2C-I was crazy trippy for me though, found 2ct-21 to be very good for socialising though, probably had the proper dose with that as i was eyeballing 2c-i at one point (yes not my finest moment but still felt safe drug)

2C-B has that social aspect to it somewhat, but tbh its never a good drug to take in public i used to just snort 10mg or whatever and watch the colours and hd surroundings awe me :D

OP i would say try GHB if u want a social drug, its very much like alcohol but you dont get that horrid hangover from it, be careful with dosing but its very much a good social lubricant when u get the dose right :D get it wrong and u may fall asleep/ od
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I only got to try 2c-t-21 a handful of times, so I didn't even think of it at the time I posted that. IME, it's a warm, extremely comfortable experience that leaves one with a fairly clear head and the ability to function as if one is sober while still very euphoric. I never tried it in a social setting though, just biking or hiking in the backcountry with my dogs. I would think that a 3-4mg would be about right for this purpose.
 
Bare_head said:
never got to try 2C-C, 2C-I was crazy trippy for me though, found 2ct-21 to be very good for socialising though, probably had the proper dose with that as i was eyeballing 2c-i at one point (yes not my finest moment but still felt safe drug)

2C-B has that social aspect to it somewhat, but tbh its never a good drug to take in public i used to just snort 10mg or whatever and watch the colours and hd surroundings awe me :D

OP i would say try GHB if u want a social drug, its very much like alcohol but you dont get that horrid hangover from it, be careful with dosing but its very much a good social lubricant when u get the dose right :D get it wrong and u may fall asleep/ od
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I have tried 2C-B in dosages up to 20mg and while its a pretty nice drug i haven't experienced and visual effects. I have also tried GHB in liquid form NaGHB in dosages up to 4200mg and it had 0 effects except this lump in my throat that stays there for a while.
 
Like they say different strokes for different folkes. I always just had gbl and i got absolutely fucked from that stuff. Sex on it was fanstastic. Euphoria very pronounced. Very akin to alcohol for me without the loss of motor coordination and no hangover.

2cb was the same for me orally. I never gt much eating it. Found nasally it was 4-5 times stronger.

That was the only 2c id ever snort. Tried it with 2ci it jus made the effects somewhat stronger n bodyload much more pronounced.

Also tried snorting 2ct-7 and had something very much like a seizure so yeah not my finest moment but 2cb for me at least was so much more effective nasally 10mg would produce nothing 20mg orally cud produce.

Again different strokes for diff folks. I love aMT but not many people do . Makes me chatty and in touch with the world. Always found aMT better than mdma for socialising. Mdma was a drug i loved to take with 1-2 people (preferably with a loved one) never found it great for socialising at partys was always too fucked
 
10/ 15 mg' s oral 2c-b and I am in cartoonland.

The time first was in a coffeeshop, where I worked. And the constant laughter began tracking attention of the owners. Despite that we, in some way, kept our cool. Very unlike a typical psychedelic.

2c-b was a nice invention. Looking back.
 
fugme said:
I have tried 2C-B in dosages up to 20mg and while its a pretty nice drug i haven't experienced and visual effects. I have also tried GHB in liquid form NaGHB in dosages up to 4200mg and it had 0 effects except this lump in my throat that stays there for a while.
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Seems impossible you could stay awake on that much GHB.

One weird visual halllucination i'd like to describe as typically 2c-b;

Imagine your in your room where a record is standing against the couch. You turn look and instead of seeing this. I saw fragment's in form of blobs, that where recogniizeable as that record. They pulsated back and forth before becoming my record again.
Probably the Beatles, that lp.
 
Small key bumps of K help me socialize anymore and it's a no go.

Phenibut is probably my personal favorite if I'm looking to be more social but not act belligerent.

I see a lot of mentions about ghb but in my experience I always end up saying weird sexual shit and over doing it. One time I was hammered at a club in Vancouver outside and I thought someone was offering me a shot of booze found out as soon as I drank it that it was ghb. Woke up a 45 minute walk away from where I was infront of skytrain station with my phone and wallet missing to a homeless dude poking me with a sheet of cardboard saying "here man sleep on this it's more comfortable."
 
That's really the only thing I use them for. 5mg of sublingual MXE always did the trick for me for social outings. Much nicer than booze
 
I thoroughly enjoyed many disassociates however in my case they were not enhancers of socialization. II felt I was in a bubble outside of everyone else's relative space.

Might be me, though ;)
 
PCP and backyard cookouts, bro.

Barbecue socialization drug of champions, lmao.

Something about wearing ratty outdoor clothes and like flipflops and rambling joyously at half drunk friends is spot on with PCP analogues.

I mean don't drive if at all possible obviously.
 
Atelier3 said:
On these dissociatives is one sufficiently aware and conscious of one’s own demeanour and behaviour to be certain one’s behaviour was socially appropriate?

I imagine you’d want to work out your levels in a safe place with a trusted straight friend before trying it on at your sister’s wedding!
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Yes, absolutely this. For people with experience, sometimes dissociatives can be fun to socialize on. But I would never recommend (I would specifically recommend against) trying them out for the first time when you will be socializing and people aren't supposed to know you're on drugs. Dissociatives can be super intense and weird. I wouldn't take dissociatives at your sister's wedding.

That said, dissociatives can be really awesome with friends. Some of the greatest nights of my life were back in the MXE days, my friends and I having beautiful, wonderful and wonky experiences together. But that's such a different situation than being among people not on the same level, and having to hide it. Sounds like a really bad time.
 
fugme said:
Hello,

Stimulants like MDMA or speed do not make me any more social, so i began experimenting with other drug classes.

i've been reading about dissos lately and apparently some people enjoy using them for social occasions too. I have recently tried pure DXM Hbr 150mg and it made me kind of wobbly like alcohol intoxication (but i require huge dosages of alcohol to become wobbly) in addition to slight nausea when i was moving - however laying down i experienced very nice physical euphoria. So i concluded it's more of a drug i would take at home.

Is there such disso that doesn't produce overly noticable intoxication and you can actually use it to hang out with sober people in broad daylight?
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To hang out with sober people during the day? No. Gabapentin or phenibut are probably the only 2 drugs that could possibly work here. Otherwise maybe an oral opiate like poppy tea or lean.


If, instead, the question is would disassociatives work to hang out with not sober people: possibly.

I don’t really consider dxm a “classical” dissassociative as it’s got significant action at a lot of different receptors.

methoxetamine is really what you’re looking for here (probably on the lower end of the dose spectrum).
 
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