Bupe Bupe tapering

[Eastender]

hey bud things are going good. today is day 31 suboxone free. pretty much all symptoms have subsided for me besides less energy than i used to have. slight inability to feel pleasure. it's hard to describe because i wouldn't even call it that. but i can feel something is off. but of anxiety but that's all easy to manage. for me anyways. i gave your post above a read and it sounds like your going through some mild withdrawal? i remember when i quit crying at the shows me kid was watching. i look back and laugh. crazy how the emotions are so up and down and all over. how are you feeling? are you apprehensive or excited about quitting?

Hey , that's great news... must be very proud of yourself, yeah I presume it is wd symptoms, dropped to 0.1 today actually & jumping off next Friday, stopping my bupe script , spoke to my counsellor today actually & got 14 days of zoplicone on Friday to pick up , did you struggle to sleep when you jumped? I'm very apprehensive about it, it's just that I've been taking it every morning then all of a sudden i wont , but it has to be now before i go back to work, yeah emotions up & down but after listening to people like yourself gives me confidence it wont be that bad, also jumping at such a low dose so I'm trusting i can handle it... as for lethargy etc , bananas are a good source of vitamin b , maybe get b12 inside you , I have bought some for next week,do get some mad cravings occasionally for smoking some H but didnt act on them so far , glad to hear your doing amazing, keep it up.

 

[codydion]

Hey , that's great news... must be very proud of yourself, yeah I presume it is wd symptoms, dropped to 0.1 today actually & jumping off next Friday, stopping my bupe script , spoke to my counsellor today actually & got 14 days of zoplicone on Friday to pick up , did you struggle to sleep when you jumped? I'm very apprehensive about it, it's just that I've been taking it every morning then all of a sudden i wont , but it has to be now before i go back to work, yeah emotions up & down but after listening to people like yourself gives me confidence it wont be that bad, also jumping at such a low dose so I'm trusting i can handle it... as for lethargy etc , bananas are a good source of vitamin b , maybe get b12 inside you , I have bought some for next week,do get some mad cravings occasionally for smoking some H but didnt act on them so far , glad to hear your doing amazing, keep it up.

anyone can do it. that includes you. you've been battling withdrawals dropping your dose like a boss. to me that proves that you have the determination to do it. and that's all a person needs to make it happen. our situations are so similar. i did it right when i stopped working i jumped. your going to need the time to go through whatever you go through. i took zopiclone to try and sleep and still only slept for an hour or two once or twice a night. always on the couch never in bed with my wife. took 3+ showers a night for the first couple weeks. i jumped from a much higher dose than you though. don't compare your experience to the next guys cuz your gonna trip yourself out and feel things that aren't as bad as you may feel them to be. just take it as it comes. your gonna want to give up at times, it's gonna feel like a things are never going to get better but i promise you things get better. you will look back at it and think fuck! that two weeks sucked! but a few weeks is nothing in the grand scheme of things

 

[codydion]

also i've been taking multivitamins, protein shakes, meal replacements and b6 and b12 supplements from the start. make sure to keep hydrated and takes lots of vitamins and try to eat. it helped me feel better. it's worth a try

 

[Eastender]

anyone can do it. that includes you. you've been battling withdrawals dropping your dose like a boss. to me that proves that you have the determination to do it. and that's all a person needs to make it happen. our situations are so similar. i did it right when i stopped working i jumped. your going to need the time to go through whatever you go through. i took zopiclone to try and sleep and still only slept for an hour or two once or twice a night. always on the couch never in bed with my wife. took 3+ showers a night for the first couple weeks. i jumped from a much higher dose than you though. don't compare your experience to the next guys cuz your gonna trip yourself out and feel things that aren't as bad as you may feel them to be. just take it as it comes. your gonna want to give up at times, it's gonna feel like a things are never going to get better but i promise you things get better. you will look back at it and think fuck! that two weeks sucked! but a few weeks is nothing in the grand scheme of things

Hi cody , yeah very similar circumstances.. even the sleeping on the couch haha, and my gf is still working through this whenever I'm restless I go down to the couch, I'd rather be on my own etc, its not fair on her she doesn't even know bless her, I wish I could tell her it would make it so much fucking easier but I cant... shes nearly 7 months pregnant & emotional right now , anyway great advice from yourself again, will be in touch during when I jump if that's ok with you? Hoping it goes as smoothly as possible, thanks for being there for me , Eastender

 

[codydion]

Hi cody , yeah very similar circumstances.. even the sleeping on the couch haha, and my gf is still working through this whenever I'm restless I go down to the couch, I'd rather be on my own etc, its not fair on her she doesn't even know bless her, I wish I could tell her it would make it so much fucking easier but I cant... shes nearly 7 months pregnant & emotional right now , anyway great advice from yourself again, will be in touch during when I jump if that's ok with you? Hoping it goes as smoothly as possible, thanks for being there for me , Eastender

i understand your fears. it took me a looooong time to gather up the courage to tell my wife. and even then i was kind of forced into the situation but boy did it feel like a weight was lifted off my chest. any time you wanna get in touch you know where to find me! i'd be glad to do anything i can to help a fellow a sub free life.

 

[Eastender]

i understand your fears. it took me a looooong time to gather up the courage to tell my wife. and even then i was kind of forced into the situation but boy did it feel like a weight was lifted off my chest. any time you wanna get in touch you know where to find me! i'd be glad to do anything i can to help a fellow a sub free life.

Thanks bud , really appreciate it, I'm emotional really bad today, stupid stuff too, thinking of getting drunk tonight indoors obviously, wondered if that would help? Did you touch alcohol at all whilst in your withdrawal period? Although it could end up badly ... speak soon fella , thanks for listening

 

[codydion]

Thanks bud , really appreciate it, I'm emotional really bad today, stupid stuff too, thinking of getting drunk tonight indoors obviously, wondered if that would help? Did you touch alcohol at all whilst in your withdrawal period? Although it could end up badly ... speak soon fella , thanks for listening

i sure did touch alcohol. i'm a big drinker and that won't change. i really like my beer haha it helped me a lot getting through the really rough times. for the first two days i think i was hammer smashed out of my face. i'm not sure if it helped or not though if that makes sense. gave me something else to focus on at least.

 

[Karamazov]

Glad to hear you guys are doing well! I’m steady on day 6 of 2.5. Been a bit hard to sleep and I wake up with that buzzy tuning fork feeling. And also my daily run has been grueling, like the ground keeps jumping up at me with each step And no bounce in my legs. But all other times I feel fine.

 

[Fire&Water]

... isnt it crazy that BigPharma could create the most physically / mentally addictive (partial) opiate prescription to cure withdrawals from former (full) agonist opiate pain prescriptions ?

Oh yeah, no, its not ...nevermind

 

[codydion]

... isnt it crazy that BigPharma could create the most physically / mentally addictive (partial) opiate prescription to cure withdrawals from former (full) agonist opiate pain prescriptions ?

Oh yeah, no, its not ...nevermind

it helps lots of people though.

 

[Fire&Water]

I sure hope so ...

 

[Karamazov]

I certain.y don’t find it as physically or mentally addictive as heroin or oxy. But point taken. It’s fucked that they made billions creating the problem, and are now making billions selling the cure.

 

[Fire&Water]

The longevity of PAWS is way worse pertaining to any prescribed full agonist opioids / opiates

 

[codydion]

Glad to hear you guys are doing well! I’m steady on day 6 of 2.5. Been a bit hard to sleep and I wake up with that buzzy tuning fork feeling. And also my daily run has been grueling, like the ground keeps jumping up at me with each step And no bounce in my legs. But all other times I feel fine.

the lack of energy is what i found to be the worst and most persistent symptom of the bupe withdrawal. i'm still dealing with it 32 days later. it does get a bit better but like you say grueling. things that felt normal feel a lot harder after quitting. pushing yourself helps lots to build yourself back up to your daily routine. its impressive your still running it's so easy to just sit around and not make yourself do the hard things.

 

[Eastender]

i sure did touch alcohol. i'm a big drinker and that won't change. i really like my beer haha it helped me a lot getting through the really rough times. for the first two days i think i was hammer smashed out of my face. i'm not sure if it helped or not though if that makes sense. gave me something else to focus on at least.

Hi bud , didnt turn to the whiskey in the end... cos I know I'll start doing that when I jump most nights, & possibly wake up hungover feeling shit, so will just be on a need to basis later, its always the 2nd or 3rd day after I drop my daily dosage that it hurts me , last night was that , restless again so popped a 300mg gabapentin, sorted me out no probs ,fuck what would I be like without those....so here I am just took my little 0.1 again counting down the days til next Friday, very lethargic but went with family for a 2 mile walk, good to get out during this lockdown, watching Netflix & seem to be watching a lot of documentaries about jails in the US. Fuck your jails are very different to ours in uk, glad I was born over here haha, crime documentaries seem to be my thing when going through wd, anyway enough of my shit , how are you feeling today? Any improvement?

 

[Karamazov]

Honestly Cody, I probably would just sit around if I weren’t so cooped up with my wife and kid 24/7. we are both working full time and taking are of a 5 year old who is going bonkers. It’s my only me time so even though the run is hard it is also a relief! I get some time to listen to a podcast and get away and when I get back I don’t feel the urge to strangle everyone. So, you know, thats nice.

 

[Karamazov]

yesterday I did an experiment and took 6 grams of Kratom instead of my usual 1.5 morning dose. I’ve been doing 1.5 am then 1 in the pm and plan to switch to Kratom once I get under 1 mg.

Well, I felt a slight buzz from the Kratom, which I never do from sub, but also did not feel completely held. Something was missing. The interesting part though, is that my run was awesome. No issues with energy and legs felt like pogo sticks! I usually do 4 miles but felt so good I went six! Good to know this stuff works and I’ll probably need much less when I jump.

 

[codydion]

Hi bud , didnt turn to the whiskey in the end... cos I know I'll start doing that when I jump most nights, & possibly wake up hungover feeling shit, so will just be on a need to basis later, its always the 2nd or 3rd day after I drop my daily dosage that it hurts me , last night was that , restless again so popped a 300mg gabapentin, sorted me out no probs ,fuck what would I be like without those....so here I am just took my little 0.1 again counting down the days til next Friday, very lethargic but went with family for a 2 mile walk, good to get out during this lockdown, watching Netflix & seem to be watching a lot of documentaries about jails in the US. Fuck your jails are very different to ours in uk, glad I was born over here haha, crime documentaries seem to be my thing when going through wd, anyway enough of my shit , how are you feeling today? Any improvement?

Honestly Cody, I probably would just sit around if I weren’t so cooped up with my wife and kid 24/7. we are both working full time and taking are of a 5 year old who is going bonkers. It’s my only me time so even though the run is hard it is also a relief! I get some time to listen to a podcast and get away and when I get back I don’t feel the urge to strangle everyone. So, you know, thats nice.

amen to that. i feel your pain. lol

 

[codydion]

whoops i fucked that up somehow.

 

[codydion]

Hi bud , didnt turn to the whiskey in the end... cos I know I'll start doing that when I jump most nights, & possibly wake up hungover feeling shit, so will just be on a need to basis later, its always the 2nd or 3rd day after I drop my daily dosage that it hurts me , last night was that , restless again so popped a 300mg gabapentin, sorted me out no probs ,fuck what would I be like without those....so here I am just took my little 0.1 again counting down the days til next Friday, very lethargic but went with family for a 2 mile walk, good to get out during this lockdown, watching Netflix & seem to be watching a lot of documentaries about jails in the US. Fuck your jails are very different to ours in uk, glad I was born over here haha, crime documentaries seem to be my thing when going through wd, anyway enough of my shit , how are you feeling today? Any improvement?

being drunk all the time made dealing with the rls and stuff a lot easier. though i have heard it makes the rls worse. and then the hangover part is a killer. i'm not from the usa. i'm up in canada. things are the same today as they have been every other day. it feels a bit like a waiting game at this point in the sub free. just waiting day by day to feel 100% again. it's kind of a weird feeling.