Hey i think the only effective way to make a mulungu extract is with alcohol but that will take a lot of time (weeks or months). Toss and wash is to dangerous because you could swallow big pieces of bark which can damage your intestines. so the best way to consume it is to mix with a liquid (dosage 2-5g depending on potency) maybe boiling water if you want to sterilize it and the just drink it.
how does f-phenibut differ from normal phenibut? is it just stronger or also more euphoric?
oh and to go back to the subject of the thread im on 6-8 g phenibut a day for months right now and i hope some diazepam will help. does anyone have experience managing phenibut wds with diazepam?
Ok, so why did you bring up the idea of making a mulungu extract in the first place if it is so easy to just mix it with water and drink it?
Do you need to steep the Mulungu in boiling water for a while, or is that just to steralize it, and can you just stir up some Mulungu in a glass of water, maybe even cold water, sift it through a strainer to get rid of chunks, and just down it?
If so I will try it at some point.
F-Phenibut is honestly a real lot like regular Phenibut (both HCL and FFA, which I think are identical except for taste) in most ways. I think they pretty close to the same drug but F-Phenibut is just like literally 4-6 times stronger in terms of the amount you need to get high and also kicks in a lot faster.
Like personally I can handle a lot of both F-Phenibut and regular Phenibut, and my sweet spot for regular Phenibut for getting high and having anxiety relief and feeling relaxed but slightly stimulated without actually being TOO sedated, is probably somewhere around 3,200 milligrams give or take, not more than 3,400 as then I'll be too sedated, but doses in the 2,000s....even the high 2,000s will get me high but not as much as I want and they will kind of give me an edgy and sometimes unpleasant stimulation that happens less with just a slightly higher dosage, and any dose below like 1,700mgs I won't even feel barely at all.
On the other hand, my sweet spot for F-Phenibut is around 600mgs, with 800 sometimes being nice but it will also have a heavy but not usually too heavy sedation, (much like 3,400mgs of Phenibut), and anything less than 400mgs I will barely feel at all.....so by those standards....seems like F-Phenibut is approximately 5-6 times stronger.
It also kicks in faster, but not SO much faster IMO at least for my own personal body chemistry.
I did regular Phenibut again over the weekend for the 1st time in 2 years since I had F-Phenibut, and I had remember it taking about 2 hours to kick in, but now it is only taking me about 90 minutes, whereas F-Phenibut takes about an hour for peak effects but can usually be felt in 45 mins, so yeah, for some people regular Phenibut could take twice as long or a little more than that to kick in.
F-Phenibut also gives me crazy lucid dreams that regular Phenibut doesn't give me, but regular Phenibut gives me more of a pleasant after glow the next day whereas F-Phenibut often leaves me tired the next day, probably just cause it is so damn strong, and probably the biggest difference other than dosage is that FOR ME F-Phenibut lasts WAAAY longer.
I feel like regular Phenibut lasts like maybe 14 hours, 12 minimum but 16 MAX....whereas honestly for me F-Phenibut lasts AT LEAST 24 hours when I take doses of 400mgs or higher (which I always do)...probably like about 30 hours or something.
But otherwise, they feel very similar.
Dude: You have been taking SIX to EIGHT grams of Phenibut daily for months??
I am sure you know that is REALLY high...
May I ask why/how you allowed yourself to get into that kind of excessive usage??
I only rarely take Phenibut/F-Phenibut.
I almost never allow myself to take either more than 2 days a week, and that's absolute max. I usually don't even take Phenibut/F-Phenibut more than once or twice a month, sometimes not even.
It's a lot of fun so I can understand why, and helps with anxiety, but I am WAAYY too scared of WD to allow myself to use more than that.
I am sure people on here will have advice on how to get off of it but obviously you will need to be EXTREMELY careful and I really don't know how to do it. It sucks too cause doctors don't know much about it so if you have to explain it to them that could be hard...
I was recently reading a thread where someone was saying to taper down slowly and that then they suggested at a certain point to jump off and use either Gabapentin or Lyrica for the WD, and that they though that Gabapentin was the best thing for it, but I really don't know.
Good luck with that and be extremely careful cause that can be dangerous.