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MDMA Recovery (Stories & Support - 7) [ALL LTC posts go here]

db1995 said:
Our LTCs are alike. Everything for me is what you describe, no physical symptoms.


While I'm posting, can anyone give any insight as to if the supplements tumeric, magnesium, and fish oil can be harmful to someone recovering from serotonin syndrome?

At this point I'm just assuming my LTC/cognitive problems are coming from SS and the down regulation or degeneration of serotonin receptors.
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I've taken Magnesium with no problems (glycinate and chloride)
it makes you feel more relaxed and helps you to sleep easier. But has no effect in the long run.


I think is just a tool if you have sleep problems or you feel tense/anxious, if that is your case, buy it!...otherwise save your money because this will not improve your LTC or any cognitive problem.
 
Needhelp123 said:
Have any of your original symptoms improved?
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All except the insomnia. But then again, insomnia was my biggest symptom from the beginning.

I use SSRIs. They helped a lot. But lately less and less it seems.
 
@db1995 I can also say from experience that magnesium glycinate won't have much if any effect in the long run for our LTC's. However what will likely help with receptor downregulation is the L-Threonate version of magnesium. There is not a ton of research on it seeing as it's relatively new for a supplement, though the research that has been done has yielded promising results for increasing the density of receptors in the brain. You should definitely give it a go! Especially since receptor downregulation aka changes in receptor density is your assumption as to the situation your in. Twice a day, once in the morning and once later in the evening will be enough.
 
@mnet Since several users have had their hormones tested and all the ones I've seen on here have come back lower than they should be in some area, you could look into HCG especially or maybe TRT. I've not hit the point in my LTC where I'm gonna try either of those yet but the first in particular look promising. Especially an article I came across in an earlier thread about a man who abused mdma and suffered side effects for awhile after who was helped by HCG especially, and with some other treatments also. Have a look https://jeffreydachmd.com/clomid-for-men-with-low-testosterone/
 
The last few days I feel "normal". Like I used to before LTC? I think. The main reason is that I'm exhausted from caring... I just don't have the will power anymore. And don't think I'll care. What done is done, so that's that.
 
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Dany657 said:
@mnet Since several users have had their hormones tested and all the ones I've seen on here have come back lower than they should be in some area, you could look into HCG especially or maybe TRT. I've not hit the point in my LTC where I'm gonna try either of those yet but the first in particular look promising. Especially an article I came across in an earlier thread about a man who abused mdma and suffered side effects for awhile after who was helped by HCG especially, and with some other treatments also. Have a look https://jeffreydachmd.com/clomid-for-men-with-low-testosterone/
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Dude, I think you hit the nail on the head. Appreciate your help here! I did a test for testosterone months ago and it came back SUPER SUPER low. Unusually low. Especially free testosterone. I was prescriped TRT but never started it yet. Got any more tips/info? Should I start with this TRT or should I try HCG/give Jeffrey Dach MD a call?
 
@shouldvestayedhome

Yeah man, like I don't know how I haven't realized earlier how stupid is to get obsessive and worried over something out of my control. Like MDMA ltc fu*ks you up, then you're fu*king up yourself 20 times more being sad, depressed, anxious and obsessive about what happen, blah blah...

I don't visit the forum so often anymore, because I forget about the whole nightmare... Is my memory/concentration the same? Maybe, maybe not, just doesn't matter if I care. Depression and anxiety is linked strongly with cognitive decline and especially with the hippocampus.

mnet

Few months ago in my LTC I had a strong hunch about testosterone therapy... never did it, but if I ever fall in the rabbit hole again, will give it a go. Just testosterone is a hormone that's in such a contradiction with the victim-mindset of a LTC user, so should have some positive effects.
 
@mnet No problem! Since the article states HCG as the most effective treatment, I personally would try to get some of that before undergoing TRT unless a doctor says you can use them together. If you can get ahold of Mr. Dach and he can recommend a type of doctor in your area that would be able to aid in your situation and likely prescribe HCG(or in the unlikely event you live around his practice), I would pursue this first. Be sure to let us all know how this goes even if you just use TRT!
 
@Dany- While I don't have LTC myself, I do have experience with magnesium l-threonate and agree that there is huge potential there.

So here's my story with it.. Saw it one day on a nootropic website while buying something else and decided to give it a go based on research (obviously biased but what the hey..) that it was somehow better than other forms of magnesium for a variety of things.

Now up to this point in my life I had completely stopped drinking any caffeine because it completely stopped working, a coffee would give me a lackluster buzz for less than an hour then I'd crash hard. When back in the day caffeine worked just fine.

After using mag threonate for a little while I took some caffeine one day and realized it was working like normal.

To make a long story short I was able to completely reverse my seemingly permanent caffeine tolerance right back to like I was a teenager again.

This supplement also had positive effects on other stimulants like amphetamine and MDMA.

It's been a gift and a curse. I love that caffeine works again but I'm now hopelessly addicted to the stuff again too lol. The past month I've gotten a handle on it again finally but for a good half a year or so I was a fiend for that smell of coffee.

Now I find this interesting because I was unable to feel caffeine properly for like 3-4 years or so, I thought my tolerance was permanent...

I definitely recommend giving it a try. I personally only take like 50-100mg a night. One capsule lasts me like two weeks, I feel sensitive to it and always go with the less is more approach for any supplement.

-GC
 
@G_Chem That's incredible that it's been able to bring tolerance to multiple substances back to where it started and at such an incredibly low dose! Even though I can't use any drugs legal or otherwise due to my LTC, I'm definitely gonna cut down on the amount of Mag I use and see if I can also reap the benefits with less. It's very interesting that it's resetting tolerance given that I assume this has to do with the changes in receptor downregulation in this Mag which many sources say would be non-issue as they would upregulate after weeks or months with abstinence like with your caffeine. This makes you call into question the reliability of sources claiming this, it seems receptor downregulation may be more long lasting if not permanent with any type of substance inducing changes in neurotransmitters.

I know what you mean haha. Caffeine really has a way of grabbing ahold of ya and not letting ya go. I recommend aiming for the natural caffeine like in Bai drinks, I personally find the buzz just feels cleaner and more enjoyable than the synthetic stuff in most drinks.
 
Hello everyone, you might remember that a few months back I posted my detox protocol which I explained in some detail along with how I felt it was helping me. It has! Although I'm still not happy with where my recovery is at so I've decided to change it up. I'm only taking the glutathione boosters along with daily exercise and sauna usage(all of which will help even if the culprit is not mercury) and have made a big change to my diet in the past five days. Despite the fact that I was on a high fat and low carb diet, I could tell as someone who had been in ketosis some time ago for a week that mentally I was not in ketosis. I didn't feel the real mental clarity and improvement that I did when I was in ketosis. I decided to go full on keto with at least 75% of my calories coming from fat along with less than 25g TOTAL carbs in a day. I started out with a 30 hour water fast which I could tell kicked me into ketosis when I woke up the next day. It was a great feeling! I noticed immediate improvements in my derealization the next day, who knows if they are temporary to the production of ketones.. personally I'd rather not find out. The only downside I've experienced so far to this diet is the increase in drug cravings for literally EVERYTHING! Weed, booze, carbs, molly, you name it. Many sources say that the carb cravings will go away rather soon, regardless I plan on riding it out like the warrior it takes to beat an LTC. I'll be starting the one meal a day tomorrow morning. Research has shown that this is a great way to increase HGH as well as receive many other benefits. This is going to be my method of testing the efficacy of ketones and hormones being naturally increased for treating an LTC, I'll be sure to give y'alls an update at least every two weeks. Keep on fighting everybody!
 
@Dany657

I had 1-2 years of experience with both keto and fasting. Even before my LTC, however the mental clarity takes longer before taking effect. Even if you're in ketosis within 3-4 days, the cognitive benefits starts to appear for me between week 3 and 4.

However, I couldn't stay long on keto since the LTC because the withdraw symptoms makes my ltc ones worse.

On the other hand the best remedy so far for me was eating once a day, nutrient dense-foods only. I'm not exercising and meditating which both have huge benefits for the brain, but it makes me feel good thinking that the diet alone works and I can always step-up my game.
 
@ZeroLuck Good to know that the increased mental benefits will continue to become more increased as weeks pass! It doesn't sound like you gave yourself a chance to get through keto flu. The worsened LTC symptoms are most likely temporary as will likely improve once you're through it. If it's too much for you to deal with then you should start by cutting carbs out slowly. For example.. eat no more than 75 total carbs for two weeks. Two weeks later, eat no more than 50 carbs a day. Keep cutting it down until carbs become 25g or less per day
 
Just a little update on my LTC. For everyone who doesn't know me I got the LTC from doing MDMA in 2016. I'm now 2 and a half years through my LTC. I've improved immensely since. I have a job, which I wouldn't have dreamed of having 1 year ago. I can sort of function, although I do take days off to rest because of my head.

Symptom wise: My cognition is a lot better, less DP/DR. The HPPD side though hasn't changed much. Still get after images and all that fun stuff. The headaches are a lot less frequent, but still after a hard days work I'm pretty off to bed because of the head pressure.

My Ltc improved last december as I started a juicing diet. I think this might just have been a coincidence though because I continued juicing and I didn't improve further... I stopped juicing now and I'm stagnating again. So I really think it was just a coincidence lol. I'd say I'm 85-90% normal.

Feel free to PM me if you need any support.

I've also been working on a documentary on HPPD which I started a while ago but haven't had a lot of time to work on it lately. I will post it here if anyone is interested. We interviewed Dr. Abraham and other specialists. Should be good.

Peace !
 
@Scratcher

Thanks for sharing your story, it means a lot for everyone here going through ltc!

@Dany, I've been practicing something the last few days that works very well for me, I'm not sure if it's coincidence or placebo, but I feel great! So here's the hypothesis behind it.

I'm stressing my body short-term and keep healthy practices long-term, with the hopes I'll rewire my rewarding system and improve my endurance for long-term stress. So here what I'm doing.

- Trying to have quality sleep in the long term, but I go all nighter and skip a day of sleeping every now and then.
- Trying to eat healthy, but every now and then I go 1-2 days of water fast and sometimes I don't drink water too.
- Having super intense workout for 30 minutes, but always letting my body recover after that.
- Having cold showers.

If you have another ideas about short-term stress let me know, being very positive about this regime so far. Hope it's not placebo or coincidence.
 
@ZeroLuck
Don't know about the water fasting but I can tell you skipping a day of sleep is never going to give you any benefit whatsoever. Sleep is required so your brain can flush out all the toxins that accumulate through the day, you're only going to be doing yourself harm by messing around with your sleep pattern. Just thought I'd let you know.
 
@ZeroLuck The only thing I'd change about your LTC combat plan would be doing a one meal a day keto diet. I speak from research and personal experience when I say that you will get more ketones and therefore likely feel more mental improvement if you go keto since as you probably know, the more carbs you consume, the longer it'll take for your body to deplete it's stored glycogen and consequently produce less ketones. Oh, and change the word try to will do* . Good luck man!
 
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