lunchbox333
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my friend had some capsules of an unknown yellow crystallic psychedelic powder in a bag with a few seperated lsd microdots as well. he didn't get them himself ( I guess someone left them on his table because they didn't want to take them on a plane) and he said it was supposed to be mescaline. luckily this dude has reagent kits and we tested this mystery substance under all of them...it wasn't really giving a positive reading for anything in particular, all we knew is it wasn't MDMA, psilocybin, or any of the classic results on the sheets. dont think it showed positive for mescaline either. the only thing that it matched too across the board on all 3 or 4 reagent tests was Methylone... but it was more so like a process of elimination type matchup rather than blatant. we just went with it. now this is a very silly move as the reagent kits give the impression of black and white "if its yellow its this, if its red its this" when really there is a whole spectrum of different chemicals it could be wether analogues or etc. I've even heard of fake lsd with lysergamides in it that still tested positive or rather still shone under fluorescent light.
fast forward, week later, bored and decide to take the "methylone". the doses seemed about on point with what methylone doses, should be in the triple digit mg range per cap, but we didn't have a scale which particularly bothered me as knowing exactly what mg the capsules were would have really help narrow down the chemical... but each cap seemed to have roughly 200-300mg.. they were stuffed pretty fat
as we take the substance, expecting a cathinone /stimulant high , quick 30 -45 minute onset, about 3-4 hours of stimulation and slight serotonin up regulation, and a calm come down and night.....what we got was a little different ! lol....
once the hour mark hits, I start thinking that it was completely bunk and we weren't going to feel anything, about an hour and thirty minutes go by, an I'm starting to wonder "what in the fuck did I take ? " almost considering going home. I look at my friend at the 2 hour mark and say dude, either we took something with zero psychoactive effects, or we are in for a LONNGGGGGG night... well you guessed it just around the 2 hour 30 mark I start feeling heavy waves of warm stimulation. I couldn't make it out just yet but I definitely felt effect start to take, at this point I knew this wasn't a regular stimulant. for the first 30 or so minutes before the real psychedelic effects kicked in , it actually almost fooled me as a empathogen. if itwasnt for the multi hour come up I would have been fooled momentarily. very warm body buzz, overall mental clarity, and I even got really INCREDIBLY horny for a good 20-30 minutes.
at 3 hours my eyes are (finally) wide as saucers and I start having intense hallucinations, with a psychedelic mind set (albeit lighter than the classic tryptamine, still potent enough for me to realize it was indeed a psychedelic and not bk-mdma or the likes, much more introspective presence.. ). based on my limited personal experience, the closest in effect to this was definitely mescaline in effect, visual patterns, physical feel and intensity ( which I've only done once, in San Pedro form). also had some 2cX vibes. at times the headspace was very forgiving and chemically analgesic seeming like the 2cs.it def looked like 2ci in color and the effects match but that come up time throws me off.
was a little uneasy for a while because I was had no idea what the fuck I was in for, from DOx family to Nbomes to 2c's,, I had NO idea what I was on and my mind was racing, and it took a good hour or so to really gauge the situation.
once I got comfortable and laid down, I had AMAZING closed eye visuals... like AMAZING.very unlike regular lsd and psilocybin or even dmt visuals, incredibly profound and euphoric but much simpler in geometric pattern and morphology. a lot less personal too. a lot of circles and colors, almost like I was under water with air bubbles billowing up in front of me.
the open eye visuals were subtle but strong. things weren't warping physically like on lsd and etc, but rather the field of vision itself would fade in and out. my VISION would fade in and out from what my eyes were seeing to my imaginations and inner visions, it was almost like I was nodding out. in fact I kind of was. corners started fading as walls and ceilings became one, things faded to black, sizes and proportions started shifting, walls looked huge I looked tiny etc. nothing was directly altered but whatever I focused on changed color, proportion and was fluid in movement. felt like lsd headspace induced with ketamine analgesia and slight anxiolytic effect (although I did have couple lapses of reason in panic, nothing like lsd or mushroom panic though ). everything was incredibly SMOOTH....my body felt one, transitions from thought to thought was incredibly smooth, etc. I was even on adderall that day and this overpowered the stimulant effect. I also had the classic muscle cramps dancing and running in the back of my thighs, something that happens basically every time I do LSD, mushroooms or MDMA .
overal the peak lasted about 10-12 hours and I still felt subjectively under its effect until about 16 hours in. the come down was very easy and gradual.
at the end of the day, all in all, I took a completely random mystery yellow substance and have NO idea what it is, and thats actually just fine. from my own limited experience, it definitely seemed like a mescaline analogue or something rather in the[FONT=arial, sans-serif] [/FONT]phenethylamine /2cX class. had a great time, it was absolutely enjoyable , and I'm completely content with knowing I won't ever truly know what that was .... so this isn't a "what did I take" post, well roughly speaking anyways haha.
I am not looking for an answer from one of you guys on what I took, I read the rules, but I DID take something in particularly silly circumstances and really enjoyed what I felt...it was a pleasant shock, this unknown chemical has won its way to my top 5 psychedelic compounds already. especially considering it was NOT expected or planned. based off my experience I'm interested in possibilities of compounds I might not be considering for further study. off anecdotal experience I'm feeling its a mescaline analogue or a 2cx, but the reagents seem to speak different. but even those weren't definite one way or the other. i am only one measly person with such limited personal experience, would anyone care to throw in some possibly unconsidered RCs or analogues that I may be ignorant too? atleast duration wise? I know psychedelic experience is so subjective its almost impossible to pin point but i figure the duration and long come up should single out atleast somewhat decently a target class. once again, I'm not interested in finding out what I took, and I'm not asking what I SHOULD take, I am interested in chemicals that are similar in experience to what I felt for further personal research as I was left with a profound and impacting experience from it ( never again will I take unknown substances from capsules, althugh it was pleasant I realized how insane I was for guinie pigging random RCS like that lol).
the only reason I'm even curious about this is because although the effects were almost identical to the San Pedro trip I had, and VERY similar in certain ways to 2cXs, I dont remember the reagents showing this as positive for mescaline , OR 2cX for that matter..I honestly dont remember if they were close positives or not I just remember those were defiintely on the sheets an I didnt seem to note it then so I can only assume it was a negative for us to go with the methylone guess.
[[also one interesting note is the we took the substance orally on the tongue, while I noticed absolutely zero taste at all, (literally tasted nothing, until maybe the 3rd opened cap in I started getting a very FAINT bitter taste towards the end of swallowin) while my friend found it absolutely terrible, like he was having that sporadic body convulsion thing after each dose that people do when they take a shot of hard liquor or some MDMA. it wasn't a matter of "oh that taste doesnt bother me" there literally WAS NO TASTE for me. while this kid was gagging each time.]]
what are some RC's and psychedelics or drug classes known in the MG dose range with particularly long come up times ?
are there mescaline analogues that are viable and would they show up on reagents as mescaline or similar ?
are there obscure 2cxs with long come ups and durations ?
are there RC classes similar to the phenylethylamines ?
I considered DOx's but considering dosage difference this seemed like a substance with much less affinity (once again in the triple digit mg range.)
peace y'all, from your friendly neighborhood guinea pig, thanks for reading
mods : sorry if this is too close to a what did I take thread, please dont delete it, I'm trying to take it in a different direction than simply identifying what I took and open a discussion in potentially unconsidered RCs and psychedelics in general, many times we stick to the classic go to tryptamines and many beautiful compounds get forgotten. but I understand if its too close for comfort.
fast forward, week later, bored and decide to take the "methylone". the doses seemed about on point with what methylone doses, should be in the triple digit mg range per cap, but we didn't have a scale which particularly bothered me as knowing exactly what mg the capsules were would have really help narrow down the chemical... but each cap seemed to have roughly 200-300mg.. they were stuffed pretty fat
as we take the substance, expecting a cathinone /stimulant high , quick 30 -45 minute onset, about 3-4 hours of stimulation and slight serotonin up regulation, and a calm come down and night.....what we got was a little different ! lol....
once the hour mark hits, I start thinking that it was completely bunk and we weren't going to feel anything, about an hour and thirty minutes go by, an I'm starting to wonder "what in the fuck did I take ? " almost considering going home. I look at my friend at the 2 hour mark and say dude, either we took something with zero psychoactive effects, or we are in for a LONNGGGGGG night... well you guessed it just around the 2 hour 30 mark I start feeling heavy waves of warm stimulation. I couldn't make it out just yet but I definitely felt effect start to take, at this point I knew this wasn't a regular stimulant. for the first 30 or so minutes before the real psychedelic effects kicked in , it actually almost fooled me as a empathogen. if itwasnt for the multi hour come up I would have been fooled momentarily. very warm body buzz, overall mental clarity, and I even got really INCREDIBLY horny for a good 20-30 minutes.
at 3 hours my eyes are (finally) wide as saucers and I start having intense hallucinations, with a psychedelic mind set (albeit lighter than the classic tryptamine, still potent enough for me to realize it was indeed a psychedelic and not bk-mdma or the likes, much more introspective presence.. ). based on my limited personal experience, the closest in effect to this was definitely mescaline in effect, visual patterns, physical feel and intensity ( which I've only done once, in San Pedro form). also had some 2cX vibes. at times the headspace was very forgiving and chemically analgesic seeming like the 2cs.it def looked like 2ci in color and the effects match but that come up time throws me off.
was a little uneasy for a while because I was had no idea what the fuck I was in for, from DOx family to Nbomes to 2c's,, I had NO idea what I was on and my mind was racing, and it took a good hour or so to really gauge the situation.
once I got comfortable and laid down, I had AMAZING closed eye visuals... like AMAZING.very unlike regular lsd and psilocybin or even dmt visuals, incredibly profound and euphoric but much simpler in geometric pattern and morphology. a lot less personal too. a lot of circles and colors, almost like I was under water with air bubbles billowing up in front of me.
the open eye visuals were subtle but strong. things weren't warping physically like on lsd and etc, but rather the field of vision itself would fade in and out. my VISION would fade in and out from what my eyes were seeing to my imaginations and inner visions, it was almost like I was nodding out. in fact I kind of was. corners started fading as walls and ceilings became one, things faded to black, sizes and proportions started shifting, walls looked huge I looked tiny etc. nothing was directly altered but whatever I focused on changed color, proportion and was fluid in movement. felt like lsd headspace induced with ketamine analgesia and slight anxiolytic effect (although I did have couple lapses of reason in panic, nothing like lsd or mushroom panic though ). everything was incredibly SMOOTH....my body felt one, transitions from thought to thought was incredibly smooth, etc. I was even on adderall that day and this overpowered the stimulant effect. I also had the classic muscle cramps dancing and running in the back of my thighs, something that happens basically every time I do LSD, mushroooms or MDMA .
overal the peak lasted about 10-12 hours and I still felt subjectively under its effect until about 16 hours in. the come down was very easy and gradual.
at the end of the day, all in all, I took a completely random mystery yellow substance and have NO idea what it is, and thats actually just fine. from my own limited experience, it definitely seemed like a mescaline analogue or something rather in the[FONT=arial, sans-serif] [/FONT]phenethylamine /2cX class. had a great time, it was absolutely enjoyable , and I'm completely content with knowing I won't ever truly know what that was .... so this isn't a "what did I take" post, well roughly speaking anyways haha.
I am not looking for an answer from one of you guys on what I took, I read the rules, but I DID take something in particularly silly circumstances and really enjoyed what I felt...it was a pleasant shock, this unknown chemical has won its way to my top 5 psychedelic compounds already. especially considering it was NOT expected or planned. based off my experience I'm interested in possibilities of compounds I might not be considering for further study. off anecdotal experience I'm feeling its a mescaline analogue or a 2cx, but the reagents seem to speak different. but even those weren't definite one way or the other. i am only one measly person with such limited personal experience, would anyone care to throw in some possibly unconsidered RCs or analogues that I may be ignorant too? atleast duration wise? I know psychedelic experience is so subjective its almost impossible to pin point but i figure the duration and long come up should single out atleast somewhat decently a target class. once again, I'm not interested in finding out what I took, and I'm not asking what I SHOULD take, I am interested in chemicals that are similar in experience to what I felt for further personal research as I was left with a profound and impacting experience from it ( never again will I take unknown substances from capsules, althugh it was pleasant I realized how insane I was for guinie pigging random RCS like that lol).
the only reason I'm even curious about this is because although the effects were almost identical to the San Pedro trip I had, and VERY similar in certain ways to 2cXs, I dont remember the reagents showing this as positive for mescaline , OR 2cX for that matter..I honestly dont remember if they were close positives or not I just remember those were defiintely on the sheets an I didnt seem to note it then so I can only assume it was a negative for us to go with the methylone guess.
[[also one interesting note is the we took the substance orally on the tongue, while I noticed absolutely zero taste at all, (literally tasted nothing, until maybe the 3rd opened cap in I started getting a very FAINT bitter taste towards the end of swallowin) while my friend found it absolutely terrible, like he was having that sporadic body convulsion thing after each dose that people do when they take a shot of hard liquor or some MDMA. it wasn't a matter of "oh that taste doesnt bother me" there literally WAS NO TASTE for me. while this kid was gagging each time.]]
what are some RC's and psychedelics or drug classes known in the MG dose range with particularly long come up times ?
are there mescaline analogues that are viable and would they show up on reagents as mescaline or similar ?
are there obscure 2cxs with long come ups and durations ?
are there RC classes similar to the phenylethylamines ?
I considered DOx's but considering dosage difference this seemed like a substance with much less affinity (once again in the triple digit mg range.)
peace y'all, from your friendly neighborhood guinea pig, thanks for reading
mods : sorry if this is too close to a what did I take thread, please dont delete it, I'm trying to take it in a different direction than simply identifying what I took and open a discussion in potentially unconsidered RCs and psychedelics in general, many times we stick to the classic go to tryptamines and many beautiful compounds get forgotten. but I understand if its too close for comfort.
