Opiate Withdrawal.

[Sunriseoversea]

Sunrise- I am envious. I just got my refill today and I kind of wish the Dr would cut me off. It feels like I'm staring at Mt Everest- I know I will have to climb it. I keep waiting for better weather, but it seems the weather is only getting worse. It's four days climb and I can see you just reached the top.
It's all going to get easier every day for you now.
Don't forget you can always B.S. your family and friends and blame everything on the flu until you get your energy back. I did it a year ago, cold turkey off oxy, and nobody questioned anything.

Squeaky, Just reading that youve got your refill just want to make me go and get mine...Cravings are horrible. Horrible night, well you all know that right...Day 5 just started...and i dont know if Im gonna make it. Thanks for the suggestion. What B.S. means? I can't do that now cause its my second CT in less then a week, so this one is super hard I have to pretend real hard that Im top shape and doing everything around the house as usual...Taking care or everybody, kids, dogs, cats well the big deal. Can't even stay in bed...Its very very hard. Maybe thats why Im craving that much. Or not. I know its not worth it but I miss it..I jump from a big oxi habit. My body is very weak and my mind is weaker. Well lets the party begin!

 

[Sunriseoversea]

Oh Sunrise, No worries, at least you are right.. we can relate in that we both know how hard and unending the work of being a mother really is. My kids are grown... I cannot imagine how courageous you are to do this with the younger kids... you are a strong woman! Congrats on day 4... you are doing such a noble and right thing for yourself and your family. You all deserve to live life sober... it is definitely worth the pain and struggle. I am sorry you are getting strong cravings... what do you do to distract yourself? Can you listen to music? Have a list of positive affirmations taped to the bathroom mirror that you can read to yourself... of the reasons you are quitting? The longer you stay clean, the more the cravings diminish. I have not had cravings that much... they may be waiting for me or not. I have been dealing with the physical symptoms of weakness and dizziness if I try to walk very much. I am thinking once I am off the clonidine I will not be so lightheaded, and can accomplish more. Fingers crossed, that in a few hours I will be at day 8.
Stay strong and hang in there!!! You are doing this, and the worst of the physical symptoms should soon start to weaken!! You are motivating me to continue on this journey of recovery!!!

POkemama! Wow! Amazing women that you are! Thanks sooo much! Reading you upon getting up this morning as made my day, really! Thanks! What do I do? Since I can't fake the flu anymore, being in my second CT in less then a week, well I go and work in the field with my husband...ha ha ha. Hard work indeed. But I have to keep busy! So I take Kratom and it has helped tremendously with my energy level and being able to shovle deart around the field, planting letuce etc. Being an agricultor is very hard work. People tend to not thing about the people behind their foods. But I don't!! Patience and love is the key to that kind of work. And also no toxic going on our products NO NO NO. I congrats you for your day 8! Following each other I think it is helping really cause we can relate! Keep this up Mama! Loads of love going your way! Bye for now!

 

[Painful One]

PainfulOne- no experience with loperamide here but I do have a suggestion for your dilemma.
Cut your pills in half and then plan every dose til you get your refill. Figure out when you can afford to be in WD ( nighttime, kids at school, etc), plan for how long it takes to kick in when you dose, and stick to your plan. It's a couple of days and just know that even cold turkey doesn't get to it's worst until around day 4. It will be a bit of a struggle, and you will be sick of staring at the clock, but the little bump every few hours should reset the withdrawls enough to make it bearable.
If you get desperate for the half-pills to work faster you can chew them and let them dissolve in your mouth. They taste like dog crap, but I have done it with 30 mg ER oxy and relief comes MUCH faster(but doesn't last as long).
Just don't deviate from your plan for any reason or you will be in full withdrawl for your a day and life will suck.

Thanks Squeaky. I did not see your reply until now. That freaked me out that you spoke to me. I have read so much of your story and I was really fucking worried about you a little while ago! You are like a legend to me.
Reading about your struggles hurts me. I wish for you to find a happy medium and stick there. The roller coaster ride sucks!

That is what I am doing squeaky is cutting them down to like 3/4 a pill. If all goes well I should only have to spend 3-4 hours in cold turkey. I'm trying to stretch them to even cover that but I'm already pushing it to the max. If I take less, it won't last 12 hours and then I will just blow it.

Good luck to all of you whom are going through cold turkey or taper. I KNOW withdrawal sucks! Day 5 though sunrise - you are going to feel better today! Hold on! Good job Pokemama- I am also a pokemama- or was- kid is grown- but I once spend like $300 on a fucking Pokemon card and don't even get me started on beany babies. Holy dumb shit I did for my kid.

 

[the last dose]

Poke- beware of lyrica wd's too. Some people have none, but some folks have life altering wd's. I use it too and I have to taper after only 4 days use(i get bad insomnia, have to taper down for 2 days)

hi Squeaky, wow i cant believe lyrica does that to you i know everybody is different but i have taken gabapentin-(lyrica's little brother) for as long as 7 months and stopped with no problems was a couple years ago while i was on oxy in pain man. And since my oxy wds 62 days ago ive taken lyrica for a week straight or more a couple times and feel nothing when i stop, i do agree maybe insomnia but i already have insomnia from paws i actually take some lyrica now cause it helps with sleep and nerve pain in my feet. I think most problems occur with lyrica when people chase the buzz with high doses over a 1000mgs a day or more the most i take is one 150mgs pill a day during wds i did higher doses still never felt much of anything.

 

[the last dose]

Thanks Squeaky. I did not see your reply until now. That freaked me out that you spoke to me. I have read so much of your story and I was really fucking worried about you a little while ago! You are like a legend to me.
Reading about your struggles hurts me. I wish for you to find a happy medium and stick there. The roller coaster ride sucks!

That is what I am doing squeaky is cutting them down to like 3/4 a pill. If all goes well I should only have to spend 3-4 hours in cold turkey. I'm trying to stretch them to even cover that but I'm already pushing it to the max. If I take less, it won't last 12 hours and then I will just blow it.

Good luck to all of you whom are going through cold turkey or taper. I KNOW withdrawal sucks! Day 5 though sunrise - you are going to feel better today! Hold on! Good job Pokemama- I am also a pokemama- or was- kid is grown- but I once spend like $300 on a fucking Pokemon card and don't even get me started on beany babies. Holy dumb shit I did for my kid.

You girls are kicking ass! It definitely makes me sad to see how many women are on this thread fighting wds. But then again if this guy can do it i know you girls can!. Most of the women in my life are tougher than me! keep fighting girls! dont give up better days are coming.

 

[Squeaky]

Sunriseoversea- B.S. Means you can still lie to everyone. I have had the flu many times. Sometimes for a whole week of fever, nausea, diarrhea, no appetite, sneezing, etc. Then a few days later get sick AGAIN and be sick for another week even worse. And then just tired for weeks after from all of the toll it took on my body. And that was legitimate flu before I ever knew what withdrawls are like.
You can still use my flu story. Even fake a trip to the doctor. Or take a real trip to the doctor, they aren't going to think you are lying when you say you have the flu and maybe prescribe something for the body aches and nausea.

 

[Squeaky]

Thelastdose- yeah, I quit gabapentin cold turkey after 600 mg/day for months with zero side effects. The Lyrica is a different beast for me. I use it for sleep in wd's too and it is totally awesome. One day use around 300mg is a miracle, but 3 or 4 days and I have to taper off for 2 days.

 

[loveofmynephew]

Lady Heroin​

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So little man, you’ve grown tired of grass, amphetamines, downers, acid and hash. Then someone pretending to be your friend introduces you to me, Lady Heroin….
Well honey before you start fooling with me, just let me inform you of how it will be. For I will seduce you and make you my slave. Believe me, I’ve sent bigger men to their grave.
You think you could never become a disgrace and end up addicted to poppy seed waste? You’ll need lots of money just like you’ve been told cuz darlin I’m more expensive than gold.
So you’ll start to inhale me one afternoon, then take me in your arms- the beginning of doom. And once I have entered deep down in your vein, your old life will never again be the same.
I’m expensive and dangerous and love to live fast. But the feeling I give you will never last. You’ll swindle your Mother just for a buck. You’ll turn into something vile and corrupt.
You’ll rob and steal for my narcotic charms and only find peace when I’m in your arms. And when it dawns this monster you’ve grown, you’ll solemnly swear to leave me alone.

You think you might have that mystical knack? Well honey just try getting me off your back. The vomits, the cramps the guts tied in knots, your trembling nerves screaming for that much needed shot. The cold sweats the hot chills the withdrawal pains can only be cured by my little brown grains.
There’s no turning back there’s no need to look, cuz deep down inside you know you’re still hooked. You’ve given your conscience, your morals, your heart. You’re mine now forever, till death do us part.

 

[Painful One]

Now I'm hitting the wall..and she begs me to quit..
Wants to take me to church..but I'm afraid to commit..
Now I'm loosing my mind...cause she hides all my shit..
When the only thing I want from her is ...Pray for me
Pray for me tonight

Sixx A.M - I have this song playing in my mind over and over....

 

[P0kemama]

POkemama! Wow! Amazing women that you are! Thanks sooo much! Reading you upon getting up this morning as made my day, really! Thanks! What do I do? Since I can't fake the flu anymore, being in my second CT in less then a week, well I go and work in the field with my husband...ha ha ha. Hard work indeed. But I have to keep busy! So I take Kratom and it has helped tremendously with my energy level and being able to shovle deart around the field, planting letuce etc. Being an agricultor is very hard work. People tend to not thing about the people behind their foods. But I don't!! Patience and love is the key to that kind of work. And also no toxic going on our products NO NO NO. I congrats you for your day 8! Following each other I think it is helping really cause we can relate! Keep this up Mama! Loads of love going your way! Bye for now!

Wow!
I am at a loss for words... you are certainly right... agriculture is and can be back breaking work. How do you do it? Does the Kratom help enough? Happy to hear the care you take while you work.... I appreciate no toxins very much. You are in another country, no wonder you did not understand about my name at first. Yes, you make me stronger. This afternoon I called the pain clinic and canceled my appointment. When asked about re-scheduling, I said no thank you!!! Freeing and scary... no turning back now!! I hope you start feeling better quickly!

 

[P0kemama]

Good luck to all of you whom are going through cold turkey or taper. I KNOW withdrawal sucks! Day 5 though sunrise - you are going to feel better today! Hold on! Good job Pokemama- I am also a pokemama- or was- kid is grown- but I once spend like $300 on a fucking Pokemon card and don't even get me started on beany babies. Holy dumb shit I did for my kid.

Thanks for making me laugh!! yep... Pokemon cards for the boys, and I have one daughter as well... and did exactly what you did re: those beanie babies for her.... I could have had a nice little savings account with the money I spent making my kids happy! I wonder where my kids got their addictive personalities around these collectibles, lol.....

 

[P0kemama]

Hey TLD: Did you happen to read that I canceled my pain management appointment this afternoon??? I finally will get to keep some of my money!

 

[Sunriseoversea]

Pokemama! YOU ROCK!!! WOW youve cancelled and also said NO to reschedule, I am amaze by you! Youre a strong women. So happy right now! Day 6 for me, still cravings loads, just thinking about trying to find the scripts that my husband hide somewhere..And Im guessing he is not a good at hidding....I have to get a grip and NOT DO THAT. And yes Kratom is very strong if you take the good one. It gives me a little high and I can acheive almost anything. Its saving my ass with the clonodine. Im sleepping at night cause I just pops on pills. And then in the morning Im so tired from the pills...I just can't stand Insomnia.
Well another day in Paradise , right! Keep it uo Mama! And TLD: thanks for your words. I too beleive woman are pretty fucking strong! We have to be, we bare the world! And Painfulone, I thank you too for givi me hope that my day will be a good one!

 

[Logicbomb]

I wouldn't suggest alcohol. Benzo's, Immodium and Aspirin. Take vitamins and stay hydrated.

 

[Sunriseoversea]

Squeaky my man! Thanks for the all of your advices! They help a lot. I just can't fake. Being a mom changes everything. Youre plan about youu taper sounds good. I wish you that you can acheive it. Good luck Squeaky! I don't want to go and see my doc cause Ill ask for a script so better not do that, right!? Im craving loads...Im doing it. Day by day. Good day to all!

 

[the last dose]

Hey TLD: Did you happen to read that I canceled my pain management appointment this afternoon??? I finally will get to keep some of my money!

You rock sista!!!!!! I didnt have to cancel my last appt because on my last visit there my doctors door was closed i was told to see different doc the son of owner he started giving shit about more tests etc. yeah so he could empty my insurance. So instead of taking his shit as usual i was well into my plan to end it, so i mirrored his attitude he didnt like it so he discharged me thank god! so at that point i told him to go fuck! I hear ya my copay was 60 bucks for each visit then another 100 bucks at pharmacy not anymore!! funny because yesterday i took out of my glove compartment in my truck a stack of old appt cards from pain man i dont even want to see that shit anymore! so proud of you sista!!

 

[the last dose]

Squeaky my man! Thanks for the all of your advices! They help a lot. I just can't fake. Being a mom changes everything. Youre plan about youu taper sounds good. I wish you that you can acheive it. Good luck Squeaky! I don't want to go and see my doc cause Ill ask for a script so better not do that, right!? Im craving loads...Im doing it. Day by day. Good day to all!

Hang in there sunrise! you will be so happy you did later, one day at a time!

 

[Painful One]

Thanks TLD for encouraging us girls! It is much appreciated.

Poke Mama!!!! Way to go baby girl! You rock!! Nobody is telling us it is not possible.
When I start to drown in it- all I have to do is remember how fucking bad Liver Failure hurt and peritonitis and I'm like- meh
This is a mere scratch. I just hate the mental messing and insomnia too. Plus I really do have chronic pain and some other shit-
So the add on of withdrawal is horrifying. I have to maintain a fine tightrope balance.

I AM so PROUD of sunrise over the sea too!! Holy Lord Almighty! Your out there farming doing this. You are one badass woman and just so you know that is a major compliment. I know you don't understand our American speech sometimes, but just so you know.
I'm so proud of you and poke mama!

 

[the last dose]

Thanks TLD for encouraging us girls! It is much appreciated.

Poke Mama!!!! Way to go baby girl! You rock!! Nobody is telling us it is not possible.
When I start to drown in it- all I have to do is remember how fucking bad Liver Failure hurt and peritonitis and I'm like- meh
This is a mere scratch. I just hate the mental messing and insomnia too. Plus I really do have chronic pain and some other shit-
So the add on of withdrawal is horrifying. I have to maintain a fine tightrope balance.

I AM so PROUD of sunrise over the sea too!! Holy Lord Almighty! Your out there farming doing this. You are one badass woman and just so you know that is a major compliment. I know you don't understand our American speech sometimes, but just so you know.
I'm so proud of you and poke mama!

My pleasure Painful One, And you take your time i weened a long way before i jumped you want to do it only once! I wont bullshit you about the insomnia shit definitely the worse part for me but with benzo and lyrica every now and then im finally reaching the next phase im getting some sleep now naturally. I dont know if i would of made it through the first month after wds without the help of xans and lyrica. best painful one!

 

[P0kemama]

Just saying hi, on day 9 now... some really awesome and good people posting here..lots of great encouragement! I did have insomnia pretty bad last night, but split a 150mg Lyrica in half... I guess I need the whole one. Will try that tonight. I also made an appointment, although it is still two weeks away, with my new PCP. I will be curious to see what he will will give me for sleep issues.