Opioids The Big and Dandy Fentanyl Analogues Thread - Acetylfentanyl / Butyrfentanyl

[CruelBri]

I meant micrograms. 800 microgrrams

 

[dus_aster]

@ ppl blowing the fent scare out of proportion

Idk, man, my tiny-ass province of 4.6 million has had 600 ODs so far this year from smack (and coke, M, oxy, et al) being cut with Chinese fent analogues
The health minister declared a state of emergency over it in BC (Canada) iirc
It's a massive problem here that has led to free nalaxone being given away, a rush to license safe injection sites, and all the cops receiving special training (along with a miriad of public health warnings and daily newspaper coverage)
It's a big problem in some parts of North America

 

[Bearlove]

ill only buy 2/3g china white occasioanly. never bulk buy or re order more. tolerance is a bitch with fent enjoy it then rest it...

So you do bulk buy (considering the dose needed) and you do re-order more then.

China white is obviously a slang name - what is the drug that your talking about?

 

[Bearlove]

@ ppl blowing the fent scare out of proportion

Idk, man, my tiny-ass province of 4.6 million has had 600 ODs so far this year from smack (and coke, M, oxy, et al) being cut with Chinese fent analogues
The health minister declared a state of emergency over it in BC (Canada) iirc
It's a massive problem here that has led to free nalaxone being given away, a rush to license safe injection sites, and all the cops receiving special training (along with a miriad of public health warnings and daily newspaper coverage)
It's a big problem in some parts of North America

I agree, i think you have to have your head buried in a fairly deep hole to not believe the dangers of these fent type drugs. As you say the government reaction of nalaxone being easily available and the spike in deaths the last few years in a clear indication that something is changing/wrong.

 

[kleinerkiffer]

I meant micrograms. 800 microgrrams

Yeah, 800 micrograms sounds about right.But it's impossible to weight with a normal 0.001g scale, so volumetric dosing is key. But don't forget the proper safety equipment

 

[CruelBri]

I am at te point where I think I'm gonna just flush this fu-fent down the drain. After reading more and more I really don't want to have some crazy withdrawals from a drug that doesn't even make you happy. I literally so close to flushing it. But a part of me is saying to keep it invade of an emergency with not being able to get my subutex but I guess I could just order random opiates off the dark net if needed?

 

[smokeymcpot42088]

yea fu-f is killing a lot of ppl around here, no cut and about 50-100 a g, its tough for dopefiends to resist. If heroin was legal this would be much more enjoyable and much less of a problem. stay away from fu-f, same experience as the guy who said hospitals are rarely bringing od's back with narcan etc.

 

[Xantus]

People are cutting H with fu-f cause it's the easiest shit to buy online. It sucks cause i use fu-f personally (after work on weekends - i make my own nasal spray) for about a year now and i'd hate to see it become illegal. IF someone is thinking about trying fu-fent (i suggest staying away from fents all together) then mix a nasal spray solution. It seems to be the safest route imo.

 

[CruelBri]

I has bought 2 grams of the fu-fent. Did about half a gram through out like 2 -3 days. Realized how feignish I was getting redosing literally every 45 minutes. Waking up in wathdrawals. I said FUCK it and got my subutex script filled. And flushed the remaining fu-fent down the sink. The high literally sucks. No euphoria. I get easily agitated on it. Just takes the pain completely away.

 

[THE_REAL_OBLIVION]

Just as I had the money to get myself some 4-ibf, the stores no longer have it. I got one hell of a tolerance because Suboxone at 10mg a day, only thing that works for pain is fent analogues and from the conversations i've had, the people making them are actually aiming their market for people on Suboxone because we gotta wear fuckin Medic-Alert bracelets so in case we get hurt badly or some other reasons why opiates have to be used (extreme diarrhea for example, very strong painful coughing...) so when we slam the double the dose of Dilaudid we used to slam and get nada except added respiratory depression while feeling totally awake....a very scary thing, thankfully I got a Symbicort script, that revived some people I know by itself as I carry it everywhere.

Anyway, I don't if 4-ibf is banned but the only thing they have in pill form is 2-methoxy-N-(1-phenethylpiperidin-4-yl)-N-phenylacetamide which they call MAF and are 4mg tablets. Anyone tested these? I really am unhappy and nostalgic about professionally prepared Fu-F inhalers, unlike PFBF which was a total fluke for people on Suboxone, I got pain relief and heightened mood from 2 sprays in each nostril, sometimes a third 20-30 minutes later and I'd go to bed with zero side effects. I could still order it, but the site's people do not reply to emails, although they are established dudes....I don't get it.

 

[5f-F|$hB0w1419]

Has anyone had any experience with methoxyacetyl-f or tetrahydrofuranal-f? My vendor doesn't currently stock any of the ones I currently know, they did back in August but lots have changed. I know all the precautions, safety, how to handle, but I'm looking for any experience or knowledge on these Chems. I've worked with 4fbf and acetyl before, I plan on just smoking it because I love the ritual , taste, and being a big hard head, well was, I like the strong feel good rush, pain relief with short legs, plus my living situation now works better for that. Really it was a long thought out impulse to get, being 3 months off opiates but I feel like I'm going crazy without them, plus I broke my foot, and I moved with my girl a few states away and meth is the epidemic here, not opiates, and that's not a bowl of smoke. And to the user a few above me, I never actually had withdrawals from the fent analogs, and I went pretty hard on the 4fbf. I ordered it and went to jail on a unrelated charge and got home a month later to 2 grams instead of one,( the first stopped in customs for a week although it wasn't tampered with, I've had some different RCS opened but never had problems) but with delays of a week my guys will usually send another so 2 were there. I started smoking about 2mgs initially, a few times a day and day 4 I banged it once my tolerance had me up to handling a 10+mg dose, and was doing 4-5 shots a day, but I never felt sick. Even when a ran out , and I didn't even try to taper, I wasn't sick. I got a little cold sweat similar to when I quit weed after smoking for a while, and I didn't sleep as long, but could get a solid 4-6 hours, usually I do 6-8 but I didn't feel miserable. It was more the just wanting to feel it again because all the boy was such junk around compared to my precious stash, and same with the acetyl. That was cut into some boy, but way overpowered it, just felt like fent, once I came down around a hour later the legs I couldn't notice. I did feel more irritable, I probably gagged more smoking crack than usual but I mean for a fent/h addiction it was easy. The worst withdrawals I've had though have came from synth cannabinoids and that was true hell, opiates never quite made me that sick even with a habit. True good h does, but when does that ever come around now, atleast for me.

Anyways, these Chems just interest me a lot. It ships tonight sometime, but it'll like be another week or two before I get to mess with it to post my findings.

And sorry I got to talking, it's not often I get to talk about my curiosity and interest in drugs other than weed anymore, and having some coming, fuck guys I'm excited. Hope to find some interesting results, wish for the best.

 

[5f-F|$hB0w1419]

I've acquired the methoxyacetyl-f and the tetrahydrofuranal-f way ahead of what I thought, but that's okay. I hadn't been able to get a scale, but I've been messing with very potent Chems for a long time, around 5 years so I'm pretty confident in my eyeballing skills. I've done it many times, but I'm not recommending anyone do it. Just saying what I've done. After I got it, I smoked around 1mg initially, a small but of powder. Extremely small, and i hit it over five hits, each time enough to just see a little smoke and it melt and hold it for about 2 seconds and bl9w it out. Just to test it, and I did it over about ten minutes. Mild euphoria and good painkilling effects, like 2-3 mgs of a strip snorted in water after it kicks in when you have no tolerance. ( The 2 grams came in all rocks of various sizes, Vapes of foil clear, tasted like fent although I've only smoked the methoxyacetyl-f as of right now. ) The buzz lasted a good hour and a half surprisingly and was comfortable. Slight urge to refuse but I didn't for about 4 hours. I hit a rock the would of been about the same size as earlier, enough to were I knew I'd be fine if that makes sense to people who are comfortable with Chems this potent, and I hit it in one hit and held it in for about 8-10 seconds. Tasted great. All Vapes clear , about 30 seconds after an amazing rush of euphoria came and great painkilling effects. Very pleasant , like a nice shot of heroin that wouldn't make you nod. But get you passed sick and atleast high and lasted about the same time. I have to keep my research on the down low but that's okay, it keeps the redose down a lot, and let's me enjoy it. Not abuse it which is pleasant. It looks like a very promising chem, but both the smells , are pretty pungent. If I didn't know about drugs, and smelled it, I'd guess drugs or chemicals, I can smell it through the sealed bags. It's all white, like coke or snow, and are various rocks , but knowing the vendor I know it's very good, and just from what it looks like Vaped, the taste, ECT. I'm curious to snort it, but ill end up having a scale soon to volumetrically dose it right, atleast smoking I can take small hits and do more, over to much. Snorting might take longer to kick in and might make me think it's not enough, and being the inner addict, I might not resist so atleast I can totally control my dose and relate to what I smoke to get an idea but that'll be a few days. I'll try the tetrahydrofuranal-f too, it'll take time. But I'm very happy about the product, I feel like it has enough euphoria if I don't abuse to be like 60mgs of a perc or a good bag of dope, but legs that are short enough I can be fine wherever I chose to do it, and potent enough it'll last way longer than any street drugs of the same price. If I really keep control, I wouldn't doubt that the 2 grams could last over 2 months and for the price, it'll last way longer than anything else, plus it has a high that I enjoy and am comfortable with. I'm hiding it around people I'm normally around, but can act what I feel is normal compared to moving my jaw and sweating on coke or crack, be pretty doped out on h for a while, or stoned and a little paranoid, I'm just totally relaxed, lose and not worried that it's obvious because it's not and I have no anxiety. But it's one to look into, but I'll update more once I have more research on it. Good luck friends, wish all the best.

 

[kleinerkiffer]

I've acquired the methoxyacetyl-f and the tetrahydrofuranal-f way ahead of what I thought, but that's okay. I hadn't been able to get a scale, but I've been messing with very potent Chems for a long time, around 5 years so I'm pretty confident in my eyeballing skills. I've done it many times, but I'm not recommending anyone do it.

Never ever eyeball substances active in the sub mg range!

 

[5f-F|$hB0w1419]

This is not the first time, nor the last, I know the dangers, and I know what I'm doing. I know it's not the safest, but I can handle it, I've literally been doing it for 5 years or so with all types of RCS that are active in that range, and never once have i done to much of anything. It's just about knowing your body, and trrating you and the substance with complete respect. And I always believe i can do more if I'm not where I want, I can never take back. Now if I had pure fent powder, like just plain fent, or something like that than yeah that'd be different, but most of these analogs can be handled safely if you treat them with respect.

 

[5f-F|$hB0w1419]

So I've had more opportunities to experiment with the methoxyacetyl-f and the tetrahydrofuranal-f, and both still seem to be very promising Chems. Both substances are white, it was mainly rocky when I got it but having it in my pocket a lot of yesterday, some of them broke down but they look beautiful. They are both the hcl version too. They both have a distinct chemical smell, but the tetrahydrofuranal-f smell I way more pungent and stronger, I keep both bags in the foil seal pack they came in and all I can smell is the tetra. The tetra is more of a sticky powder, the methoxy is more salt like, although not like salt, it doesn't coat the bag and doesn't clump together as much , which the tetra doesn't do it bad , it's more noticeable. The both vape crystal clear. No residue leftover. The methoxy seems to have a stronger rush while the tetra has longer legs and the buzz comes on a little slower, both are enjoyable and I'm pretty happy about both substances. I wasn't expecting anything these analogs aren't, I actually expected less from them. They both taste the same smoked and I love that fent taste. The urge to redose is there, but it's not pressing. It's like wanting the good feeling back, but I haven't felt compulsive like coke to do more, or even they need to start the day with it like I always do with bud or wax. The want usually comes a little over an hour but it's easy to handle. And I'm wanting to be careful and very strong in the head about it, if I get caught my girl would leave me and I'd lose my place to stay, and I can't mess that up. But I'm careful, and although I can be rushing hard, it doesn't produce any obvious effects other than it makes me a little more talkative and a little more just wanna sit and chill type feeling, but I'm already talkative around her and a pretty chill person, plus my eyes don't get red. Right now I'm a little noddy but she's sleeping and I wanted to get a little nod with it plus I'll be going to bed soon, have to be up in 6 hours. It does produce nice itches, I haven't got enough to where I scratch one spot raw, but it's all over. It feels good to give in and scratch here and there. My pupils definitely pin out but my eyes haven't got red, and I haven't experienced much respiratory depression. I've checked my heart rate and it hasn't slowed any time I've checked, my breathing has slowed just a little but instead of taking slightly quicker shallower breathes like I normally do, these are just deeper like a calm yourself down breath but nothing alarming. I plan to keep my use to once before noon after I'm awake, maybe once before 4 when I get off work, and than before bed when I shower. And switch between both of them. I'm hoping it'll keep my tolerance low, and no sickness like last time. My dose hasn't increased at all, and I haven't felt a need to increase it. Granted it's only going on the third day, but I don't really feel like it'll go up much if any with good spacing and low dosing. It has made me less hungry, although I've only done it twice today I've hardly eaten, which kind of sucks but that could also be from a slight hangover from 151and a game of circle of death which I got the shit end of about everything ;p haha. But I am being very safe, the first time I've done it both days I take small hits off the roughly 1mg there to just make sure the tolerance hasn't dropped, that I'm virtually getting all the same amount and effevts Everytime. To make sure for instance, I haven't missed most of what I've done the past day and maybe got a tenth of the mg to getting a whole hit and getting all of it and just be fucked. But like I've said, I have messed with pretty potent Chems for a long time. Although a lot of the strong synth cannabinoids or tryptamine or 2c-b analogs won't necessarily kill you doing to much(although I believe the nbomes can , but that was only twice 2 years ago and I got out of tripping on synth Chems and don't read on them anymore or remember if they're lethal, I have messed with them) but still but with like am2201,5fab-pinaca,mdmb-chmnaca, you still didn't want to overdose because it's a miserable feeling and never really had a problem with it. But I was way more reckless, within a week my tolerance could go from sprinkling it on a bowl to scooping spoonful on it and not even getting high.

But anyways(sorry for going off topic, I'm still buzzed and just chatty) I'm going to continue experimenting and hopefully help someone else and hopefully have other users share their experience too. I haven't found any info on either chem that I have other than what my vendor has told me and I love learning about Chems , analogs or any drug family or type of drug I'm into . I'll post another update in roughly a week to tell how it's going , what, if anything has changed ect. I should have a scale too in a few days so I'll be able to say my actual dose, but I'd bet my testies that I'm within a .25 of a mg of 1mg, which seems like a lot, but really for me anyhow, that range isn't even gonna push me close to an od. I'm more worried about staying strong than doing to much. I wish all the bluelighters the best, I'll follow up soon.

 

[THE_REAL_OBLIVION]

Yeah, but you should acknowledge that others might be better off buying a scale, this is a harm reduction forum. As for myself I'm getting nasal sprays of either, which do you recommend ? I take 6-8mg of Suboxone a day and doctors told me to say so when I get hurt really bad because the only thing that will work is Abstral pills, they're sublingual Fentanyl pills we got here in .ca, they go from 80ug to 800ug. I had to have my Suboxone docs approve twice a script for them in 4 years, once I got the 200ug ones...had to take 2 to really get it to remove the Suboxone and get pain relief, the second time, I had such a painful skin lesion that they gave me the 600ug ones, that worked great. What also worked great was a Swedish vendor that unfortunately closed last year, their Fu-F nasal-spray was a wonder, 2-3 spray shots and I would get euphoric and get very good analgesia. Haven't touched another F analogue since then, I know a place that still sells Fu-F nasal sprays, but let's say I know the store that has those sprays well, due to them having flunitraz and fonazepam for very cheap. Should I go with one MAF or one THF-F spray?

 

[Madrus]

Best most recreational fentanyl analogue 2016 google keyword search answer GO!
(that was a question)

 

[Lurker5879]

The two best IMO:

Acryl Fentanyl - Essentially the same shit as real fentanyl. A little stronger. You need a milligram scale and nasal spray bottles to get it to work well. Effects are good, and longer lasting, I'd say 3-4 hours. IV is a no-go, but any other route works. I'd stick to nasal sprays and suppositories though. This one was overlooked because people are afraid of acrylamide, but at the dosages needed to feel effects--it won't hurt you.

Butyr fentanyl - Definitely one of the most fun. Rectal administration was the best, but I've been told I look like a junky after I take it this way. Potency is a quarter of regular fentanyl, there was a spike of availability recently despite the China ban.

I'm on a bit of both right now. They help each other out. But I don't enjoy these fentanyl analogues nearly as much as something like Etizolam. At first, a single milligram gave me the best body high ever. Shivers of euphoria. I took these analogues mainly for pain relief, because doctors can't figure out what's causing my severe pain and refuse to do crap about it. I've been taking them regularly for 3 months without addiction. How? Because I only take as needed.

 

[Morninggloryseed]

The two best IMO:

Acryl Fentanyl ...IV is a no-go, but any other route works. I'd stick to nasal sprays and suppositories though.

What makes iv a no go? You mean like it doesnt feel as good or you avoid that route?

Butyr fentanyl - Definitely one of the most fun. Rectal administration was the best, but I've been told I look like a junky after I take it this way.

You make it (junkiness) sound like thats a bad thing.

I had some BF many years back. Never got into IVing it really but IMed or smoked it was amazing. I knew what it was like to be a rich man with a vial full of BF. Smoked (the base) was probably my favorite way of taking it. Not as efficient as IM but the rush still gives me pause. Definitely the crack cocaine of opiates. Way too good for me. I hate to say I miss it but keeping it real, yo.

But I don't enjoy these fentanyl analogues nearly as much as something like Etizolam.

Strange but different strokes for different folks.

 

[THE_REAL_OBLIVION]

Best most recreational fentanyl analogue 2016 google keyword search answer GO!
(that was a question)

4-ibf, but its banned from the country that had people selling it worldwide unfortunately.