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RCs Novel opioid, U-47700-Mega Thread and FAQ

So I think this specific kratom tincture I used to be addicted to was actually U4, or at least laced with it. It was nothing like the other tinctures I'd tried, it had a rush and euphoria like hydromorphone but could also get me nodding hardcore. And since I was an idiot, I was like, "oh well, this is kratom, can't fatally OD!" even though I totally noticed respiratory depression, especially at first. It gave me the tiniest pupils I ever had from any opioid, including morphine, opium, and heroin. I would have to redose every hour or 1 hour and 15 minutes MAX or I'd start getting to the puking stage of withdrawal. I was on that shit for a month straight and for several months more intermittently. I never suffered any negative health consequences but it would explain why I seem to have such a high tolerance, like for example, when I ended up doing .25 of some "strong" east coast china white that the dealer warned me about...I barely felt it. I thought it was just bunk but another time I ended up doing .5 which got me nodding a little, but nothing crazy, while my buddy nearly OD'd on a smaller dose. He was on benzos but so was I. I didn't really do many pills because of my tolerance and the cost, but it took like 30-40mg hydrocodone a day just to take the edge off WDs and that was after a long taper with other opiates. The time I tried to CT after a month of that kratom tincture was the worst WD I'd ever experienced, even though I was high off my ass on weed, DXM, and probably benzos at the time. Does this sound like U47700?

U4 users/addicts/ex-addicts- how high is your tolerance to other opioids? Since I have no idea how high my tolerance is quantitatively, I'm just kind of curious where it might generally be at. I hope I don't break any bones because I'd probably be fucked at a hospital, huh?
 
Yeah my bad I thought it'd be more like speculation, since it's long gone anyway. Oh well, I can't think of an extremely short acting opioid that isn't highly potent, so I'm still curious about the tolerance? I'm guessing mine has to be sky high, I kind of can't believe I'm alive. "Dosing" didn't mean anything to me, I just drank that shit and often took benzos and/or drank on top of it. Cuz I mean if it wasn't U4, it sounds like it only could've been some kind of fent analog, right? That explains a lot though, I would get so much cognitive dissonance when reading about mild kratom withdrawals while I was chattering in a pool of sweat, lol. I would be the fucking person to get addicted a hard opioid without even realizing it, the entire time. I don't know how I haven't OD'd though, damn.
 
^yeah, but o-dsmt lasts much longer, like 6+ hours. Ok, I guess it's kind of pointless to speculate much, all I know is I was on a very potent and short acting opioid. Insane, dilaudid-like highs but violent WDs if I didn't redose hourly. And sudden onset WD, like I could be fine in public one minute and very soon be desperately looking for a bathroom to puke.

Can I still get guesstimates about tolerance though, just out of curiousity?

Edit: from searching on Reddit, no one who used the exact stuff I did thinks it's kratom. Everyone's saying it felt like u4 or possibly even fent, though if it's the latter then I am literally astounded that I'm alive.
 
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krokodil of North America

This seems like the "krokodil of North America"!

Regardless of MOA (method of administration)!

To the poster above, as far as 'Dilaudid -like highs go' this taken orally doesn't even come close! It's highly disappointing, unless you are seeking a dissociating experience in which case you can chug a bottle of cough syrup (dextromethorphan) which is probably a whole lot safer.

Lastly:
1) How caustic is o-desmt?
I ask because when I snorted a tiny bit, it burned almost, if not as bad as u47!

2) Should we assume the same characteristic pharmacology and profile from o-desmt as tramadol (insignificantly more or less) or could it be a drastic difference?
ex: caustic factor, etc.
 
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Sorry to double post!

For the guy that is asking how long to wait from 24mg of suboxone to try u47!
Answer is: you don't need to wait!

I know someone who takes exactly 24mg suboxone daily and he takes it every day *and* smokes & snorts u47 and never had a problem getting withdrawls from it! It always and I quote 'cut like a knife through butter'!

The max dose of suboxone, 24mg, is equivalent to 60mg methadone, and you can still feel the u47 on as much as 80mg-100mg methadone! Fuck those calculations though!

What you need to know is that you can try it right away since it will cut through your dose like butter, which is the main problem with having these potent and in this case toxic drugs readily available to begin with!!

p.s. fent analogues by comparison are soooooooo much safer! Long term use that is!
 
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muie said:
This seems like the "krokodil of North America"!

Regardless of MOA (method of administration)!

To the poster above, as far as 'Dilaudid -like highs go' this taken orally doesn't even come close! It's highly disappointing, unless you are seeking a dissociating experience in which case you can chug a bottle of cough syrup (dextromethorphan) which is probably a whole lot safer.

Lastly:
1) How caustic is o-desmt?
I ask because when I snorted a tiny bit, it burned almost, if not as bad as u47!

2) Should we assume the same characteristic pharmacology and profile from o-desmt as tramadol (insignificantly more or less) or could it be a drastic difference?
ex: caustic factor, etc.
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There was definitely no dissociation, so you think it was probably some fent analag? The bottles I got were also 15ml or 30, and the active dose was supposed to be like 1 drop, so I'm guessing it'd have to be something ultra-potent. I do have a fent tolerance, like [seemingly] out of nowhere...

Man, I still have an old bottle with some stuff dried up in it, I wonder if I could test it.
 
30mg U (plug) + 1g phenibut + 3000mg gabapentin = highest point of bliss

euphoric knowledge

watch out tho if you do too much U then you'll dissociate like a K hole minus the fun.
 
kleinerkiffer said:
this

A few years ago there was kratom ciut with O-Desmethyltramadol going around..
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This I knew, but didn't state due to possibly causing speculation as well as the rarity of o-DT due to its ban.

Edit: I'll add that fent has a very low oral bioavailability and I bet the analogs are the same. This leads me to believe it's unlikely fent .... Really though without analytical testing it's all speculation.
 
My second batch ended up being fluffy and stuck to the inside of the bag. 60mg plug after a month long abstence game me zero results ... bad batch?

its from a reputable chinease vendor with a supply stash in the USA
 
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Are you taking other opioids? 60mg U-47700 rectally with no tolerance sounds a lot like overdose.

But yeah, who knows what you plugged there...
 
roi said:
Are you taking other opioids? 60mg U-47700 rectally with no tolerance sounds a lot like overdose.

But yeah, who knows what you plugged there...
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Zero opiate use. I emailed the company and they said it was a new batch and that they lab tested it before selling it... grrr
 
To the people actually taking this, is it only due to its cheap price and legality? Do you ever regret getting into it? If you had to go back, would you do it all over again?

I'll never try any RC opioids (U-47700 being one of them), just wanted some insight into why people put their lives and veins at risk for such a short-acting drug.
 
^ you can pass a drug test and if the quality is good then the caustic thing is irrelevant. I love using a small dose before I go out because it makes me more confidant and outgoing.
 
Should have listened to @mad dash a while ago, U47700 is one of the most painful hellish withdrawals i have ever gone through.
The sleep has to be the worst one. Sober two months now, happier than ever, first time in a while.
 
No, i would have never done any different. It has taught me a lot about myself and a good
insight of what i still have to lose,this experience has overall showed me a harsh reality check
that i needed as a person. Opiate RCs are a massive bitch and taught me a new way with drugs.
 
I've never had problems with U47-700. I chose it as a cheap, effective, non-controlled, and pretty safe when you look at the data out there. There is no caustic nature to the chemical if it's pure. (private testing confirmed my batch)

I don't see many drawbacks, or at least the same ones as an oxy nasal spray.
 
Whatever they sent me is definitely not u-47700. It makes me super talkative and I can't stop moving some part of my body. Ive started to grind my teeth to the point that my front left tooth hurts and my jaw hurts, too. My heart rate is also A little high at 100bpm. They agreed to send me some fu-f But I'm nervous I'll fail a drug test for it. If they test for fentinale I may be fucked.

My nose has been getting fucked and plugging heroic doses doesn't really do much .. I should warn people about this batch. The vendor seems popular
 
^If they send you something else instead of u-47700, why trust them that it's real Fu-Fent?
If they send you another analog that's more potent you could die.

I'd never trust a RC shop that doesn't send you what you ordered.
 
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