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"Xanax - More Addictive Than Heroin" short documentary

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So, I've stumbled upon this short doc the other day on Youtube :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjpD41mMG8o

Anyone seen it?

It's rather shocking to me when I saw that Australian female model... I mean how does a person becomes THAT just from using Xanax?

Also, interesting point, later in the video, a doctor says that long term usage can lead to dementia.... Makes sense if you think about it.... I mean has this been proven?
 
I don't believe Xanax is addictive at all. It causes a strong physical dependence and can cause significant withdrawls and PAWS, but I don't think it is addictive.

I think chronic long term use will be associated with fibromyalgia, auto imune, chronic fatige, and irritable bowel amoung others.
 
Yeah, I don't see either how it might be addictive... I mean I don't see what the big deal with Xanax is... The main thing that I don't like is the short half life. So those who are addicted must be popping these pills like every 2-3 hrs or something?
 
Ya just the short half life, more addictive than heroin, bullshit. That girl was probly strung out on meth or something and took a bunch of Xanax to help with comedown.. But I'll have to watch. I have 40 at home and though I did take a lot last night it was out of boredom but no desire to do it again tonight, there nice to have around when my anxiety RLLY kicks in. It's shot like this that makes me worry that Xanax norcos and percocets are just gonna seize being produced one day with all the media hype scare tactics, and dumbass rappers rapping about when in reality they e probly just took one or two and fell asleep...
 
Total horseshit.

Ive had a minor xanax habit for a short while in my life. I failed to control my using of it until the time soon came where I decided this wasn't even close to pleasurable enough for me to justify the cost. Well, that and me and my bf had just flown interstate to see my family for Christmas, an extraordinary amount of stress for me. But instead of holding on to enough pills I kept quickly going through them till ran out when I needed them most. Very stupid of me I know. I was fairly confident I could easily beat xanax when at that point I hadn't even been using that long. I was wrong, turns out at the very least for me... Dependence to alprazolam occurs amazingly fast.

So I find myself stuff in an ultra stressful situation, no xanax or anything similar (and no answer from any contacts I used to have in the city we'd flown too where my mom lives. It wasn't fun, it sucked. Come Christmas day I'm sick and too anxious to move or say anything. Wonderful, I'm already the family black sheep I'm sure they appreciated me ignoring them all. Also wound up drinking a LOT and smoking a lot of weed (after someone had finally called back).

I still use other benzos, but never xanax ever again, nor any other benzos with a similar half life. Ive taken diazepam with its very long half life a day or so in any given month for years without escalating my use or dosage or anything like that.

With that out of the way, heroin isn't even close to the same thing. Been a IV heroin addict much longer, have found it extremely hard to control my use of. Even on methadone maintenance the psychological longing for it is hard to handle for me.

For me, and I suspect for most by far, heroin is waaaay more psychologically addicting. As for the withdrawal, mine from xanax were only mild thanks to not having done it that long, but im still amazed I had any. And whole it was minor compared to what I hear it can be, It was still very unfun and took weeks to resolve.

But nothing compared to heroin withdrawal which I have experienced as the consequence of going cold turkey from over 1 gram of heroin a day for some time. Now that is hell. I'm sure with the right kind of use xanax withdrawal can be even worse hell perhaps.
But if only for me I don't see it ever being a drug ill crave. I just don't have that much daily anxiety during most of my daily life to enjoy it at all.

Just my take on it.
 
neversickanymore said:
I don't believe Xanax is addictive at all.
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Seriously? I didn't watch the video but Xanax is physically addictive as hell and the withdrawals can kill you. I've been taking it for 3 or 4 years now prescribed and I would be in really bad shape if I were to go off it cold turkey.
 
nuttynutskin said:
Seriously? I didn't watch the video but Xanax is physically addictive as hell and the withdrawals can kill you. I've been taking it for 3 or 4 years now prescribed and I would be in really bad shape if I were to go off it cold turkey.
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I think we are just getting into a terminology pit fall here. There is no doubt it causes physical dependence and the withdrawals can kill you, but as it does not manipulate the dopamine reward pathway I don't think it can cause addiction. My own experience is once I kicked it I have had no drive or desire to use it again.
 
Fair enough, but I think at least in myself it's mentally addictive as well. Maybe because of the fact I do suffer from GAD.
 
I think it is the relief from anxiety and panic attacks that is insanely addictive. I was prescribed for years, but xanax use is not sustainable. In order to receive the same level of relief one must keep taking more. The withdrawal is bad, but once one gets to the point they want to stop it is much easier to break the habit with a taper than heroin.
 
As someone who has suffered from crippling anxiety and panic attacks, I vividly recall the unrelenting desperation to somehow calm the fuck down at all costs. It's so bad at times that I'd compare it with the terrifying experience of drowning (desperately gasping for air only to fill your lungs with water).

Xanax (Alprazolam) has offered me such quick and effective relief from the aforementioned mental state that I've had a tough time separating the experience from pure euphoria.

For that reason, it is not difficult at all to imagine myself becoming hysterical if I was to be cut off from my prescription. In fact, it has happened on at least one occasion.

The problem is that there are far too many clueless idiots who are deluded into believing they have it all figured out and promptly identify my hysteria for an addiction more intense than Heroin (ironically a drug they've likely never consumed) when in fact I'm in agony from a mental illness and not a psychological addiction and/or physical dependency.

There is an unimaginable amount of pain and suffering going on around the planet precisely because the same morons as noted above have been placed in positions of authority, where they can be the biggest bureaucratic pain in the ass to someone in need of help.

P.S: I realize we're all wired differently, and also that our genetic makeup likely influences our senses to a great degree, but as someone who has "gone cold turkey" off of both smack and benzos, there is no way I'd consider the latter to be more habit forming, but that's just me.
 
My god is xanax addictive. It keeps you in an addictive mind state. I'm blown away that in 2016 on BL no less this is even a fucking question. I was addicted to heroin and when I got off they put me on xanax and kpins. Both addictive drugs. This kept me in the addictive mindstate. I used more subs than needed, took more benzos than needed, drank too much, obsessed about new research chemicals, only read about drugs online and nothing else. It helped make my life ONLY about drug use. THAT'S FUCKING ADDICTION! I'm one year clean from that shit I can control my own thoughts now. I was a major drug addict and benzos helped keep me that way. Offended some of you don't think it's addictive. Mods no less. FFS

I do agree benzos are not as addictive as heroin. I think comparing addictions is a slippery slope. Addiction sucks. PERIOD
 
neversickanymore said:
IThere is no doubt it causes physical dependence and the withdrawals can kill you, but as it does not manipulate the dopamine reward pathway I don't think it can cause addiction.
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Any pleasurable activity can affect the dopamine reward pathway, not just specific drugs. Behaviours like gambling, sex, hoarding, eating, etc. can be addictive.
 
IMO alprazolam isn't really "addictive". Yes it can cause physical dependency but that's not really "addiction", which is defined more by things like "drug seeking behavior" and continually escalating dosages...neither of which are particularly common behaviors among anxiety patients (polydrug addicts who use Xanax as a "complimentary drug" being a different story) If physical dependency = addiction than things like synthetic insulin or heart medication are also "addictive"...I realize that alprazolam is psychoactive and some people find a lot of enjoyment in that, but I feel that those people are a small minority of the overall alprazolam-using population, honestly

As a tranquilizer it's a fairly effective medication, but it's a "soulless drug" as most psychiatric medications are. I don't know how anyone can get addicted to it, honestly...it kills feeling in me. Good as well as bad. Nowadays that crap just makes me depressed.

I'm also a GAD/panic disorder/insomnia patient who's been prescribed alprazolam on a number of occasions, as well as other GABAergic tranquilizers like lorazepam and zolpidem, so that's where I'm coming from...
 
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Ya...its jusst not a drug that will drive most people to go suck some dick to get more, as say opiate or stims. Doesn't make me deppreseed and seems to give me energy from the relief of anxiety it gives me(but will make me tired later) and not xanax but valium tends to make me deppressed when abused too much for some reason any...no comparison, there's a difference betwwen physical dependendcy and addiction as we know it. Know there are people addicted to benzos that started off as fun, but most want off of it and have no problem(given the chance) of going somewhere to detox off of it.
 
Burnt Offerings said:
If physical dependency = addiction than things like synthetic insulin or heart medication are also "addictive"
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That's a pretty bad comparison imo because insulin and heart medication don't cause physical dependency. There may be consequences of going off of them due to the patient's health problem but that's not the same as being physically addicted to something.
 
^ Actually, beta-blockers and clonidine do cause a physical dependence if used in large doses. If you quit them without tapering, your blood pressure can rise dangerously as a "rebound" effect.
 
My point was that taking medication because of a medical condition doesn't necessarily mean you're physically addicted. For example people with diabetes 1 have to take insulin but they aren't physically addicted.
 
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