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Opiate and opioid withdrawal: Coping strategies and medication

No leave the subs....

Don't introduce another opiate

Just taper the lope..
 
There is a point where introducing another opiate is just chasing shadows.....been there done that (unfortunately :( )
 
Yeah, i can see the logic. The 5 Lopes have kicked in now and with that extra Clonidine and a wee snort of 4MPH the mysterious craving has fortunately now gone. That also means that had I just been more patient I would have been OK on 5 Lopes when they eventually kick in, so I will remember that for tomorrow and stick to 5. As you say if Lope Wds are nasty even though my habit will be miniscule and very brief if all goes to plan obviously i want to minimise any WDs as much as possible.

I'm also realsing that im not truly off opis yet, until ive quit the Lopes and other comfort meds. I guess when that day comes it will be the true test, or it may be nothing at all with any luck.

All apologies once again to everyone concerned, for my "hogging" this opi support thread again. I dont intend to annoy anyone or make the whole thing about me. I know plenty of others have had habits way out of any league ive ever been in, and may see my blabbering on as whinging and pathetic. I'm just trying to find the best and easiest way off, that's all. Plus I'm not as experienced as most opi users here so im not familiar with all the tricks you may know, and am not very confident in my own mental and physical resilience, i'm 45 now, so its not as easy as it is for all you teens and twenty somethings. ;)

I don't have Knock around any more to support me this time if people start getting annoyed and ganging up against me again, so im probably being over defensive, but getting my defense in first none the less.
 
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You're not annoying anyone..

Your experience will help others and that's what BL is all about...

And 5 lopes is nothing..you'll be fine tapering them.
 
I managed to annoy several members last time i went through an opi quit and leaned very heavily on this thread for support. None of those members that did get annoyed last time are currently posting afaik.

Thank you for your kind words. I do hope that one day these posts and dialogue with yourself may come in useful for other members or lurkers.
 
The whole point of BL is HR and support..

If people dont like it.....fuck em...

(Always been my philosophy anyway :))
 
[MENTION=97650]MDB[/MENTION]

Addiction is addiction mate. Anyone who belittles you because of the size of your habit or your choice of opiate has either not yet experienced the full power of addiction, or has learnt nothing from it (or are just fuckin cunts).

All opiates are insidious little bastards and once in their grip, your personal hell is subjectively as bad as anyone else's. The symptoms of psychological addiction are basically the same regardless of substance - this is where the cravings and general headfuckery gnaw away at your resolve. The important things to remember are:

You don't need as much as you think you do
Choose just one opiate for your taper and do not be tempted to have the occasional treat of something stronger.
Taper your dose gradually, regularly and consistently.
Every time you feel a bit of discomfort or a little down, don't immediately take another dose - you probably won't need it. Instead, try to remember all the little coping mechanisms you employed before you signed over the control of your body and soul to sister morphine et al. E.G. Take a relaxing hot bath. Go for a brisk walk. Have something to eat. Take some ibuprofen. Have a wank.

Good luck mate :)
 
I always found it funny that the methadone is green in Europe and red in the states.And together are the colors of Christmas.
 
After reading this thread I've decided to try loperamide and Kratom tomorrow for day 1 kicking H.

Anyone have any suggestions on dosing? I am doing about .5 g a day.....
 
I have a couple different types of red Keaton's, tons of lope, some clonipin, ambien, dxm.... And some subs. But I'd rather go the lope route then subs.
 
UK methadone is a "tulu flavoured linctus".... Whatever the fuck that means.....

I used to get mine from the pain clinic and so was fortunate enough to get the 5mg tablets and not have to suffer that vile green shit.....although on time when the pharmacy didnt have enough tablets I was given a bottle of the green to make up the balance (which I'm pretty sure isnt legal but hey ho)...

Anyway I digress....I tasted foul...
 
It was yellow in Australia when I was out there. And it was 10-1 , so 100 ml was only 10 ml.
Far more healthy for you.
 
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