RCs Clonazolam (Clonitrazolam)

[pally pete]

Lyrica is the bomb with clonazolam and klonopin. Snort three of these red devils and eat like eight. Woah!

I need to try this, minus the Clonazepam.

 

[twoxtwo]

Could you tell me the reason why etizolam and clonazolam are made in liquid form?

Because it's how some people (like me) would rather have it. It's cheaper to get the liquid, or powder and make your own PG mix. Pellets and brand name etiz are stupid expensive.

 

[CoastTwoCoast]

I have been on clonazepam for about 1 year, I was at 2 mg a day, I've tapered down to 1 mg over the past few weeks. I am seriously worried because of all the horror stories I read. I want to taper off this and be back to normal. I would give anything to go back in time to last winter and undue this, Does anyone have any advice? on tapering, what to expect, hopefully something positive

I would order some phenibut powder. There's a great source, but I can't tell it. Get some capsules if you don't want to taste it, it's disgusting. If you've never had phenibut, measure out 500 mg first. 1 gram might be ok for you, but start low. Phenibut takes like 2 - 4 hours to really kick in. When I'm out of benzos, I take a small dose of phenibut like that to help me feel safe from seizures or deadly physical problems from withdrawals.

It sounds like you're pretty much in the clear. Just get the phenibut, a scale and take only the phenibut when you're ready to jump off the 1 mg Clonozelam. Take only the small dose of phenibut maybe a week, then stop the phenibut completely. You'll be out of the woods with physical problems, but PAWS can set in and it SUCKS!!!! That's what makes me go back to benzos usually. PAWS (post acute withdrawal syndrome) sets in and that's all mental. You should look it up. I usually end up reordering because I can't think or function for shit going through it. Good luck.

Oh also I've heard people say order Baclofen. Baclofen comes in pill form and it's similar to phenibut. So if you can get some Baclofen, that will help you jump off C-Lam too.

 

[THE_REAL_OBLIVION]

Another clonaz/flubromazolam horror story

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For what its worth, clonazolam didn't put her brain in that state, the car accident and the glass in the head might have something to do with it.

Sometimes I just wish Loprazolam would become available in Canada, I wouldn't need anything else. Best.Benzo.Evar....well that I had once at least. Had it twice, once orally and the second IV'd..it can be IV'd like midazolam iwith just water and a quality filter. My god. Maybe because I was high as hell from 25mg of OXY IR but I'll always remember that time as special and am pretty mad that there is surely no old benzos coming here, if a new one shows up in the pharma world, we might get it, or not. The latest ones were ProSom and Xanax, we only got Xanax, I'd kill to try Estazolam, a hypnotic? Never used almost? Makes it easy to be scripted then if its not one thing coming out of the mouth of patients often, etc.

Nevermind insurance, benzos are dirt cheap.

 

[THE_REAL_OBLIVION]

*Random thought*

The trainwrecks in this thread are very much at odds with my own (thorough - used recreationally, as maintenance/therapeutic and also as my dedicated taper drug when I ended my BZD dependency) experience and such tales have not come to my attention within EADD, or rather the UK-dominated sub-forum. F-Lam is infamous as an abomination against all that is holy, unholy, and indeed pretty much everything, that induces amnesic blackouts with unrivaled disaster probability - did anyone who rode the pellet-shaped-train right off the rails with C-Lam actually get the tabs analysed?
The apparent endemic nature, the sudden prevalence of such tales, the terrible publicity surrounding F-Lam, the similar potency and the inconsistency surrounding detected metabolites makes me really quite suspicious...

Very much the same for me Mr.Prout. Although I am aware of my own addiction, I would not order benzos and have the risk of having my package seized (its all that can happen, not scheduled high enough here in canada) if I didn't already have a yearly script of diazepam since what, nov 2010, which was an attempt at a taper, but it was too rapid, going from 4mg clonazepam to under 20mg valium at the pace we were going was not possible for me. Still, I consider myself 2/3 (in equivalence) less addicted to benzos. I don't tend to buy very large amounts of RC benzos and don't touch my valium and restoril script at all when I have them, other than the odd mix with reduced dose for both substances, 0.25 flub-lam with 0.5mg clonaz. Or one of my favourite combos, bromazepam from my friend, 9-12mg with norflurazepam...it brings out the nod from my suboxone. But I've always consciously been more aware of others, like when I was heavily in psychedelics, i'd talk down people going into delirium/bad trips and I'd be able to step over my own high to take care of them, even when snorting PCP lines and walking like robots, I took care of my friend who had the bright idea of drinking a 1.18L (a 40oz me thinks) of 7.1% beer with the PCP, he was all over the toilet, I was helping him when close to the p-hole where things seemed longer if i looked away or smaller if I looked close, like the toilet he was puking in.

 

[THE_REAL_OBLIVION]

Somehow one of my posts got deleted here that's strange. All I did was agree with a mod who's saying that he hasn't seen much problems with clonazolam.

Although his opinion on f-lam is a bit exaggerated, there is truth to it, theres no point in taking more than .5 at once, I wish the dicksizers who say they were taking 300mg xanax at once every weekend (and not get extreme withdrawals in the supposedly sober week) would stop with their horror stories. You got what you wanted, most people will have to buy from countries with a mail system that is not as good as the british one and the difficulty in obtaining eith c-lam or f-lam (or f-pam, or whatever) after the 6th of april in theory will be happy and agree with that Nazi looking person responsible for this blanket ban that makes no sense where toothpaste and capsacin could be considered illegal (you can get a script for capsacin but no need for it literally). If only Canadian vendors had balls and sold something else than Etizolam powder. (not a big etizolam fan, but I will be giving the etizest pharmaceutical pills a try in one of my last transaction with a british store, we'll see. Apparently they're second tier compared to Etilaam, but these have disappeared.

 

[pally pete]

Very much the same for me Mr.Prout. Although I am aware of my own addiction, I would not order benzos and have the risk of having my package seized (its all that can happen, not scheduled high enough here in canada) if I didn't already have a yearly script of diazepam since what, nov 2010, which was an attempt at a taper, but it was too rapid, going from 4mg clonazepam to under 20mg valium at the pace we were going was not possible for me. Still, I consider myself 2/3 (in equivalence) less addicted to benzos. I don't tend to buy very large amounts of RC benzos and don't touch my valium and restoril script at all when I have them, other than the odd mix with reduced dose for both substances, 0.25 flub-lam with 0.5mg clonaz. Or one of my favourite combos, bromazepam from my friend, 9-12mg with norflurazepam...it brings out the nod from my suboxone. But I've always consciously been more aware of others, like when I was heavily in psychedelics, i'd talk down people going into delirium/bad trips and I'd be able to step over my own high to take care of them, even when snorting PCP lines and walking like robots, I took care of my friend who had the bright idea of drinking a 1.18L (a 40oz me thinks) of 7.1% beer with the PCP, he was all over the toilet, I was helping him when close to the p-hole where things seemed longer if i looked away or smaller if I looked close, like the toilet he was puking in.

Sounds a bit like the Kaleidoscope vision' I used to get on Ketamine.

Somehow one of my posts got deleted here that's strange. All I did was agree with a mod who's saying that he hasn't seen much problems with clonazolam.

Although his opinion on f-lam is a bit exaggerated, there is truth to it, theres no point in taking more than .5 at once, I wish the dicksizers who say they were taking 300mg xanax at once every weekend (and not get extreme withdrawals in the supposedly sober week) would stop with their horror stories. You got what you wanted, most people will have to buy from countries with a mail system that is not as good as the british one and the difficulty in obtaining eith c-lam or f-lam (or f-pam, or whatever) after the 6th of april in theory will be happy and agree with that Nazi looking person responsible for this blanket ban that makes no sense where toothpaste and capsacin could be considered illegal (you can get a script for capsacin but no need for it literally). If only Canadian vendors had balls and sold something else than Etizolam powder. (not a big etizolam fan, but I will be giving the etizest pharmaceutical pills a try in one of my last transaction with a british store, we'll see. Apparently they're second tier compared to Etilaam, but these have disappeared.

I guess you may be referring to me when mentioning the 300mg Xanax binges? I wasn't 'Dicksizing'. I was trying to put into perspective how bad I was on Benzos, and how far I'd come. (10mg Diazepam per day) And what is possible next... How I can feel myself slipping back down that route of abuse - hence the record of Benzos and doses.

I'm sure you can empathise a little due to your own previous attempt(s) at tapering (4mg Clonazepam - 20mg Diazepam) that even you admit was too fast for you to cope with. Yet as you say, you " feel 2/3 less addicted " So how less addicted does that leave me feeling.. It doesn't matter because it's completely relative.

I'd say it's a bit harsh to blame my behaviour for the people in other countries being unable to source Benzos/Pharmaceuticals? I understand the actions of people who abuse (Most of us on Bluelight) has an effect on drug laws, drugs in the mainstream news, and mainstream opinion etc..

I'm not proud of my levels of drug abuse, infact, many find them hard to believe. I wish I was lying! Bluelight is about the only place I've ever really been able to talk about it, as I feel we share a lot more in common than anyone else I've spoken to. Even saying that, I've yet to find somebody who can truely relate to some of my experiences.

Quite a lot of envy come across in your post. I can't help being British, just as much you can't help being Canadian (Or a Canadian Citizen at least)

Also, as for Etizolam, I find the Etizest much better than the Etilaam.

Stay safe.

 

[ramblin]

You're saying its all a money issue?

 

[Limpet_Chicken]

Structure looks a bit tasty to me, nitrobenzodiazepines are a major winner IMO. Never had flunitrazepam, but nitraz is lovely stuff, I don't find benzos recreational really per se. usually, but a few 5mg moggies down the hatch and I'm a happy bunny for the rest of the.

Never had clonazepam itself, but just seeing that nitro group makes my mouth water in anticipation ^_^

Medically though IMO benzos aren't great really, tolerance/dependence/addiction wise, I'm heavily biased though, as a die-hard devoted fan of chlormethiazole, which I've taken for several years now a couple of years without establishment of physical dependency. Surprising for a barbiturate-like GABAergic, considering its so bloody powerful stuff, far more recreational potential than benzos.

RC heminevrin analogs, now those I'd LOVE to see this old, yet wonderful hypnotic agent expanded and developed. Only analogue I've tried is the one in which bromine is used to Cl. Its active and modification of one single step in the typical rxn used to make chlormethiazole. Haven't explored it fully as far as could be, due to the potential for fatality in OD, given its barb-type rather than benzo-type activity at GABAaRs electrophysiologically speaking. But likeable enough at regular chlormethiazole dose levels or a little more.

 

[morphine-dreams]

I have 1mg pills of clonazolam and while I try to split it into halves or even quarters, I still always manage to black out. Not necessarily a big blackout, but I can never remember at least the last hour of the night I took them. From my limited experience with benzos, I'd say that it does remind me of clonazepam, but it's much stronger. If kpins get you buzzed then these get you completely fucked. I don't find clonazolam to be particularly sedating either, they give me a sort of energetic, euphoric buzz. Kind of like being piss drunk but without the gross impairment. It's hard to explain, but any benzo user will know what I mean. I'd definitely recommend volumetric dosing for this one. Overall though, I think it's a great recreational benzo, very fun, VERY strong. 1mg is major blackout zone if your intolerant or only mildly tolerant.

 

[CoastTwoCoast]

I can't wait to get paid tomorrow and order more C-Lam or maybe I'll try a different RC. C-Lam is acting weird with my brain now. No euphoria and kind of makes me angry or something. Still trying to figure out this new feeling it's giving me. It's not as nice as the first few months I've been on it though.

 

[twoxtwo]

I can say with certainty that, if a urine/blood test is administered at a hospital/state facility, clonazolam will cause a false positive for alprazolam. The two obviously have a related metabolite.

I know this because my friend wrecked off the side of the road several months ago. She was knocked out on impact, had broken glass in her head, and her brain bled. This was all caused by a clonazolam OD.

When she got to the hospital, they immediately tested her for drugs. Several days later, she showed a false positive for alprazolam.

They used this evidence to create a bunch of bullshit charges that cost her out the ass and got her stuck in jail for almost a month (until her publuc defender finally got her bail reduced from fucking 25 grand, which was only that high because a couple of her charges weren't even close to legitimate). She had a kid and no job, so it was already hard enough for her.

She came very close to death because of this substance. She was pronounced dead at the hospital, but "cane back life" after she came out of the coma. This drug caused her brain functioning to slow to the point where she was considered clinically dead and had been since around 8 hours before the crash even happened (by the time she'd gotten plenty of them into her).

I, also, have personally had no good experiences with clonazolam. It lasts far too long, is stronger than necessary, and will leave you in a blacked out state for days on end, popping pill after pill with no worries about the repercussions.

Oh yeah, the repercussions are much worse than just poor decision making. The wd is horrible, the worst out of all available benzos/thienos. The effects are very powerful, however, the wd is worse than heroin and xanax combined. I was forced to stop cold turkey after a couple weeks of daily (heavy, blacked out, idiot type doses, which were generally around 1.5mg throughout the day and then all out at night) clonazolam use because it was my car she wrecked, so I had to move back in with my parents to afford to fix the damage to my car, where, of course, my dad found my pill bottle immdeiately and flushed it. I experienced severe nerve pain, delusionally thought invisible entities were going to end my life in my sleep, and was extremely shakey. Luckily, I had an excuse to take off from work and allow my mind to heal.

My friend had issues with seizures while wding in jail, but she had already done considerable harm to her nervous system by oding on meth/crank multiple times within the last few months before the accident; I can't attribute that solely to clonazolam. I personally didn't have a single seizure and never have. If I ever did, I'd be the first in my bloodline to have one, though.

Overall, me and a couple friends went through 45mgs in a couple weeks (maybe not even two whole weeks). Barely remember anything at all from that time period, but ended up getting several charges while under the influence.

If you're going to choose to use this benzo, I've found it more useful at dosages around .125-.25. Minor effects can be noticed at just an 8th of a single pill (half the size of .125mg).

I just read this same story on Erowid. I've been on ventilators in ICU after taking only 3mg of this stuff...I did the math wrong when I dosed and didn't realize until a half hour later.. They could not wake me up and I was breathing so slow they had to put me on an aspirator. This drug is extremely potent. But being the addict I am. I just dosed .5mg clonazolam from a PG solution. I'm hoping this goes better because waking up in ICU with tubes down your throat is scary as fuck.

https://imgur.com/gallery/Z0jTg Proof. Be careful dosing this drug. It is extremely potent and low doses are enough to get you into some serious shit.

 

[sonicwhite]

Check out the blotter on my 1.5mg of clonazolam thread.. They look pretty neat. But I don't think their as strong as pellets even tho I have never had pellets before.

 

[ahint]

Would it be dangerous to take 0.5mg clonazolam given I'm already on 1mg pyrazolam? I don't have much of a tolerance but I need to knock myself out to sleep, which clonazolam always does for me.

 

[CoastTwoCoast]

My tolerance to Clonozelam must be out of this world. I feel NOTHING. I went from falling on the floor and blackouts to feeling NOTHING! I don't want to keep eating the bottle., but it seems like I could swallow the bottle and still feel NOTHING!!! So disappointing.

 

[ramblin]

Doesn't anybody ever take their clonazolam and etizolam at the same time? I've read a thousand posts and i haven't heard one person mention combing the two. My tolerance is quite high so maybe i wouldn't notice some kind of thing occurring where the thienos kinda work against each other but I highly doubt that's the case like with certain opiates.
So why no mentioning of people mixing their clonazolam and etizolam? Especially from those who claim to have such high tolerances? I guess the main reason for asking is I don't wanna feel like I'm wasting my etizolam and clonazolam.

 

[CoastTwoCoast]

I have mixed them before. I have my Klonopin from my pharmacist today so I mixed that too! I do not recommend this to newbies. So basically I combined 3 benzos. I still need a potentiator to make it stronger. I haven't been able to get my hand on Gabapentin to potentiate it..

 

[belfort]

Depends on your tolerance. 0,5mg was sure enough for me to not remember a lot of things I did during the duration of action.

thats scary that such a low dosage was enough to cause almost complete blackout..i hate that effect of benzos..

 

[belfort]

Is there anyone with a high tolerance to clonazolam? 2 used to have me in a good state of mind, but I've been through 6 of them now and feel nothing. It's worrying.

damn how do you guys let your benzo tolerance get out of control so fast?you must be looking for a high because out of 3 differen benzos, the dosage i started taking it for anxiety still worked after a year or so of using..klonopin and etizolam...boggles my mind why people look to get high off benzos...such a dangerous way to get a little buzz.. especially if you have chronic anxiety that you need the benzos for..

 

[CoastTwoCoast]

Klonopin doesn't give me euphoria or a high feeling at all. That's why I use it to taper. I have major depression (treatment resistant), agoraphobia and anxiety. Etizolam and C-Lam made me want to go out and have a good time. I was up for anything. All fear was gone. I was happy to be alive again and I could talk to anyone. It's easy to judge "why people want to get high off benzos?" You don't know what it feels like to not be able to live my life, but I finally felt on top of the world until it stopped working so well.