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Mental Health Coming off Invega Sustenna (paliperidone)

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iridescentblack said:
Right now, I'm experiencing what I call a "peak" on this medication. 'Seems to be coming in multiple waves that are almost overlapping. Just 2 days ago I was exploring a beach house, in my mind, with beautiful decor and scenery outside. I've never experienced anything like it. It was so real. I could smell the flora on the bluff, the way the sun heated it and brought it through the balcony door. But now it was little more than a dream.

I suppose this might be the last major peak. I suppose if I tried hard enough I could envision and explore this "house" further, but right now I'm so drained of mental, physical, and spiritual energy. 'Didn't even go for a walk today. 'Was considering going to the store to get some whiskey, but I think that wouldn't really help much at this point. 'Should see significant improvements by month ten or sooner. By that time I'll hopefully be moving from invega 6mg to abilify.
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So you still have antipsychotic?
 
By the way, I'm 6 weeks off the Invega now. Have to force myself to be happy and do daily tasks, as well as to simply speak to people. Sleep is my favorite thing to do now. Over 12 hours a day.
I've lost all my goals and my life. Sorry if this sounds pitiful. That's just how it is. Hoping this gets better gradually, as I've heard it does.
 
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iridescentblack said:
Right now, I'm experiencing what I call a "peak" on this medication. 'Seems to be coming in multiple waves that are almost overlapping. Just 2 days ago I was exploring a beach house, in my mind, with beautiful decor and scenery outside. I've never experienced anything like it. It was so real. I could smell the flora on the bluff, the way the sun heated it and brought it through the balcony door. But now it was little more than a dream.

I suppose this might be the last major peak. I suppose if I tried hard enough I could envision and explore this "house" further, but right now I'm so drained of mental, physical, and spiritual energy. 'Didn't even go for a walk today. 'Was considering going to the store to get some whiskey, but I think that wouldn't really help much at this point. 'Should see significant improvements by month ten or sooner. By that time I'll hopefully be moving from invega 6mg to abilify.
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So are you trying to taper off of the invega sustenna with pills? If so, how is that working? I stopped the shots without followup. They can't really make you take the meds. Unless they put you in the psych ward again and get special approval. But I've heard that's very difficult.
 
NotAPsycho said:
So are you trying to taper off of the invega sustenna with pills? If so, how is that working? I stopped the shots without followup. They can't really make you take the meds. Unless they put you in the psych ward again and get special approval. But I've heard that's very difficult.
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I was kind of hoping I wouldn't have to go into detail about this, but here it goes:

Back in the summer of of 2013 I mistakenly misidentified a mushroom and ate a portion of it. Following that event, things that I started putting into my body had very different effects on me than they used to, starting with spices and food. The worst of it occurred when I decided to drink a Full Throttle energy drink while I was playing video games at home. I started having panic attacks, not even realizing what was happening to me. I finally found out what it was and figured whatever that mushroom was, its components must have caused a bad reaction with something... 3 weeks later I realized it was the caffeine that was causing them, after having had multiple panic attacks at that point. But it gets worse...

The medications no longer worked as they were supposed to. I was having withdrawal symptoms even though I was still taking them consistently. Not fully realizing this, I decided to discontinue my meds after I was switched from Risperdal Consta to oral Invega. I almost ended up losing my life because of the withdrawals, that and not being able to eat food or drink water. Couldn't even eat plain white rice without having a panic attack.

So the Invega Sustenna kind of saved my life. To make a long story short, I got back on medications on my own free will and that's what I ended up on. But after a year of taking it monthly, all those crazy symptoms from after the whole mushroom thing had pretty much gone away. I asked my pdoc to switch me to oral. So, understand that I'm only taking them because with the way the mushroom affected my anatomy, it's very likely I could wind up in the same state if I decided to suddenly drop all medications.

I'm still coming to terms with how drastically it changed me.

I'm sure that might answer some of your question. In normal circumstances, tapering off is not necessarily needed when coming off an injection. But it's different for me... the tapering off with oral meds is working out pretty well though.
 
Its been a year. It gets better definately after about 9 months, as I said, I am able to concentrate for decent amounts of time now. As far as my energy levels allow, I also have motivation to clean, shop, groom and that kind of thing.
 
^^ That's at 100 mg intramuscular? And you got the injections over the course of 3 years?

EDIT: What was your weight like when you were coming off it? Did it go down before you hit month 9-12?
 
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iridescentblack said:
Back in the summer of of 2013 I mistakenly misidentified a mushroom and ate a portion of it. Following that event, things that I started putting into my body had very different effects on me than they used to, starting with spices and food. The worst of it occurred when I decided to drink a Full Throttle energy drink while I was playing video games at home. I started having panic attacks, not even realizing what was happening to me. I finally found out what it was and figured whatever that mushroom was, its components must have caused a bad reaction with something... 3 weeks later I realized it was the caffeine that was causing them, after having had multiple panic attacks at that point. But it gets worse...
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Are you sure it was the mushroom that put you through psychosis? There are many things that could have contributed to that. Caffeine is one of them. Nicotine, marijuana in excess, stress, lack of sleep, alcohol, nutritional imbalance, and dehydration can all cause hallucinations. I've been through psychosis 4 times, and each of those times there was a combination of those things involved.
 
mottec said:
Its been a year. It gets better definately after about 9 months, as I said, I am able to concentrate for decent amounts of time now. As far as my energy levels allow, I also have motivation to clean, shop, groom and that kind of thing.
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Are you able to hold down a job or go to school?

And is anyone able to do that coming off of this drug? I can't even wake up in the mornings anymore, or feel good enough about myself to work or go to class. Luckily I'm suspended right now anyway.
 
NotAPsycho said:
Are you able to hold down a job or go to school?

And is anyone able to do that coming off of this drug? I can't even wake up in the mornings anymore, or feel good enough about myself to work or go to class. Luckily I'm suspended right now anyway.
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I am able too after 8 months off invega, being in that environment i was dealing with alot of anxiety but as far as doing the work that was no problem. Im in the It field
 
NotAPsycho said:
Are you sure it was the mushroom that put you through psychosis? There are many things that could have contributed to that. Caffeine is one of them. Nicotine, marijuana in excess, stress, lack of sleep, alcohol, nutritional imbalance, and dehydration can all cause hallucinations. I've been through psychosis 4 times, and each of those times there was a combination of those things involved.
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Definitely a point of view worth considering. And yes, I guess you could say I'm not 100% sure, but I still have to wonder...
NotAPsycho said:
And is anyone able to do that coming off of this drug? I can't even wake up in the mornings anymore, or feel good enough about myself to work or go to class. Luckily I'm suspended right now anyway.
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While I can't say I'm totally cleared of the medications effects, I had a period of relief from it just a couple weeks ago and was doing things I haven't had motivation to do in years; I was cleaning my apartment without having to force myself, going for runs, doing stretches, doing Qi Gong. I even had a morning routine lined up and I was sticking with it for a few days before one day... suddenly lost all motivation. Also had a very profound experience while meditating, but all of that went away and now I'm back to the whole "can't even imagine a fucking paperclip" thing again.

In other words, there is hope for getting motivation [back]. It just takes some serious time, so you might have to consider things like getting on disability income or staying with family until it's all - for sure - totally out of your system.
 
It looks like its going to be 8 or 9 months to fully recover now according to most reports, jeez thats some punishment to have to go through, it does seem to get slightly better each month.
I don't know how any of you manage to work, I can't even face walking the dog at the moment, the complete lack of interest in anything makes each day drag and I'm just wishing my life away at the moment. Just wish I could get myself motivated to do stuff or at least not just laze about all day waiting to feel better.
At least the inner restlessness seems to have gone away and I am able to have a few beers at the end of each day which is something I suppose. The depression has lifted a bit aswell with the thought that I could be recovered in another 3 or 4 months and that I've got 3 half lifes gone going on the maximum 49 days and the clopixol depot that I got about 6 months ago should be out my system by now.
Keep the success stories coming people or at least an update when you notice any improvements or any supplements or medication that has helped.
 
*Update* 7 months mark

I feel better than before, my thoughts are deeper, I think more, I'm able to hold a conversation for more than an hour, and fortunately I recovered some interests (books, Tv series like Revenge ^^ etc). However, I didn't recovered this feeling of wellness when you have motivation since I just have some willingness. I didn't also recovered my emotions, but recently I felt for the first time a feeling of deep anger when I watched a bad news at the tv, sometimes I feel some waves of adrenaline without any reason, so I think emotions will come back progressively in form of waves until it will be stabilized.
FYI, this is what happen when I have now around 12mg of Invega Sustenna in my blood, the 5th half life (I count every 50 days) will be at the end of February, I'll have then around 8.6mg, by then, I'll write an update if I feel some improvements.

Take care
 
Hello All bluelight.org Friends
My Name is Mikael. And I´m 25 Years old from Germany.
I was Forced to Psychiatry, Because for false information about me in my Parents Home( Long Story).
I became a Toxic Drug Injectable Named (RISPERDAL CONSTA). July 2014 19 Months later.One Injection.I have many dissability.
1. Eye see the world darker and my eyes blurred vision.
2. I lost my sperm and my erection.
3. I can not drink anymore and i make notice about my drinking water because i´m not anymore thirsty.
4. I can absoloute not sleeping anymore because my Melatonin not working.
5. I have no feeling no joy i not anderstand what is love like before.
6. I have so much pain . with my heart and all body parts.
i say the real story about this medicaments first there all the same the difference is injectable or pills.
every drug in the Pscho world is extreme dangerous . they say the d2 receptors are ill in our brains this is absulaute not true there is not such thing like mentall illness ok you can have a bad karma from your soul but this is an spiritual question .
the real issue is make every human dump the real mask is stop serotonin when this stop than melatonin stop automatical with dopamine.
because Serotonin is The day and than transformation in night to Melatonin and his brother hormone to dopamine.
What is the point the real 3rd eye is in your brain. your soul is in the 3rd eye( Pineal Gland) when you have much of serotonn and melatonin you have spirituality.
this is one of the biggest secrets in the world there is the gateway from micro to macro cosmos. when the mankind has real activating pineal gland then your are not a member of the 3d world with other words matrix you can choose a better live in the 5d world you have than much morre superhumanity.
this is not fake what i´m say this is real because i´m suffer from this problem in this moment. I´m actuell from 100% realy real 5 & i´m so burning so burning i lost everything i can not think anymore i´m in prison my soul is in pain and my material body. but i pray with my mum every day she is my big love.
we now need to heal together.
the first thing we need to know .how does this drug work.
When the serotonin is blocked, we need to know how this happens.
in these drugs is always flouride-containing mixtures.
we need the antidote. but that's so hard to find.
I contact current doctors about this problem. if I find what I'm going to help you.

Paliperidone (Invega Sustenna) chemical name complete ----->
(RS)-3-[2-[4-(6-fluoro-1,2-benzoxazol-3-yl)piperidin-1-yl]ethyl]-9-hydroxy-2-methyl-6,7,8,9-tetrahydropyrido[1,2-a]pyrimidin-4-one

My drug Risperdal Consta---->
3-[2-[4-(6-fluoro-1,2-benzoxazol-3-yl)piperidin-1-yl]ethyl]-2-methyl-6,7,8,9-tetrahydropyrido[1,2-a]pyrimidin-4-one

you can real see all antipschotics have flour flour and so on read about all drugs in wikipedia in complete chemical name.
first off all how is that possible to make a anti d2 rezeptor because with flouride the complete issue is the most holy grail chemical power serotonon and melatonin to stopping , flouride can be harden the pineal gland 3rd eye inside is your soul . for the elite is that worth .
this is the real problem in this problem for the elite to wake up the pineal gland there self has it because aristrocratic families married them self when the truth is out and the people will against the elite , the biggets power is pineal gland the second power is destruction them . in this planet is maximal 1% with this activatet pineal gland story about the royal families in europe. this is the reason why famous dr rick strassmann find the famous DMT molecule its an mix of serotonin and melatonin with this you can have spiritual real powers. the same issues with famous writer the god gene wmat2 is the same issue with the pineal gland.
this is my writing for all my bluelight teams i´m here with yours and our with me we can help each other
you can see what the conseqencess is forced to pschaitry and than i have 10 diffenrt dissabilites i´m 5 % and not more 100%
i´m so in fire i can not say what this is for me so much pain.
thank you all


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Apollo25, I didn't understand a lot of that, but that made so much sense. Totally resonated with me.
 
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