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The EADD 3-FPM Megathread

yea Evey sorry but I'm struggling to understand what's happened there? that post was very confusing to make out.
I think she lost track of her powder & found it on the bed after searching the hoover for it :\
The blood part I can't make out though, doesn't sound good.
I also can't figure out why she keeps changing the sheets in her bed, she hasn't slept in it in weeks.

yis would have been better off telling her to do a yoke, that 3pfm shite has her gone round the bend :(

Fuck me, I'm glad I stick to normal drugs, them RC's are dodgy as fuck. I was actually offered a load of free RC's off a vendor a year ago, I told him no thanks, gimme an extra yoke...
 
Had a pretty good night on 70 mg hits tonight. It feels like 3-FPM really needs something to radius all the sharp edges and blur you into fitting in. Used booze tonight because it was what was available, but weed works a lot better, I think. Next week I'll go for the same strength, with weed as mixer this time, and see if that comes out better.
 
I've had 3f from 3 different sources (bargain hunter) and I haven't noticed any real variation. I did notice different effects from the same bag though, I really think the effects you're talking about are down to you
Taken a bit less the last couple of days, tomorrow I really have to do none. Girlfriend is suspicious. My tolerance has made it easier to eat and sleep on but also reduced the positive effects, I've only really done a normal amount of housework etc the last few days. It's not even hard to quit, I mean I get pretty much no withdrawal, I just have to stop being a bitch

What ROA do you use? I only really have experience with vaping, which could possibly make any perceived differences more noticeable. I've used 6 vendors over the past year, ordering a minimum of 3 times consecutively from each and have noticed a huge variation in appearance, taste, effects profile and side effects - not just between vendors, but also from order to order.

However, I do believe the experience is also partly determined by one's individual body chemistry and metabolism as me and the Mrs very rarely experience the same effects simultaneously.

Throw in the fact that 3fpm also has four isomers with varying degrees of activity, adulteration with other substances, lack of quality control, different manufacturers, etc. then there are a significant number of variables involved.

After much experimentation and speculation, I believe there are 3 basic types of 3fpm 'powder' available at any one time (the crystal and glass varieties have not been properly researched in my lab so are not included here):

1. 'The Rusher':

Fluffy white powder, can be clumpy if damp. The vapour has a taste of plastic, but also 'earthy' in a spunky type of way. Melts to a clear beetle and leaves no trace on the foil - often hard to locate beetle when fucked. Typical effects consist of a crack-like rush upon exhaling which can sometimes be quite overwhelming and can cause slight nausea. This is soon followed by a calm euphoria often accompanied by a marked increase in libido - to the extent that it's 'Zip, lob' soon after lift off. With redosing, MDMA-esque qualities become apparent, e.g. empathy, openness, change of colour perception, visual effects and the sense of being enclosed in a timeless bubble. These effects are so pleasant that compulsive redosing is often unavoidable and days can be lost to vaping, sexual activity and staring at the wall watching imaginary pictures. After 12 - 16 hours or so, the 'doldrums' are reached, where redosing seems to be having no further effect. However, with perseverance, the next level can be attained when the active metabolites kick in, which gives the experience a more amphetamine type feel. From now on, the immediate vaped effects occur concurrently with the metabolic effects leading to a steadily increasing euphoria which gives the illusion of being infinitely sustainable, but sadly isn't. I find the law of diminishing returns is invoked between 3-5 days
Unfortunately, this type is the most caustic and also produces the worst physical side effects - vasoconstriction, tachycardia, headaches, bruxism, cramp, general aches and pains, foul body odour, blurred vision etc. - but the recreational effects make it apparently worthwhile.

2. 'The Creeper':

A dry granular powder sparkly in appearance. More of a chemical taste when vapourised. Beetle initially runs clear but turns yellow or amber after a few reheats. Can leave a light trace on the foil. Initial effects take higher doses to achieve and feel more like a conventional stimulant rush than crack rush. No empathy, minimal increase in libido and no after-rush tranquility. This type seems disappointing at first, but when the metabolites kick in, a similar level of euphoria and stimulation can be achieved to that of 'The Rusher'. The effects creep up slowly, hence the name. Side effects are also usually less severe and though the desired effects are less pronounced, it also has a less toxic feeling to it.

3. 'The Other':

This type appears to be a mixture of the previous two types in varying proportions.

Needless to say, my favourite is 'The Rusher'. It's a hard hitting filthy dirty slut of a drug, is recreational rather than functional, has kept me off opiates and has totally transformed our love life. However, the other types have their merits also, but I can't help feeling cheated if I don't receive 'The Rusher' in my order.

TL.DR I'm off me tits again, just ignore me...
 
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Just curious why you dont go the crystal or glass varieties bro. Wouldn't they be less likely to be cut?
 
Just curious why you dont go the crystal or glass varieties bro. Wouldn't they be less likely to be cut?

As I've said before, I like my drugs like my women - cheap and dirty :)

I've had the crystal several times but fucked it off cos it was even more of a creeper than The Creeper, and too much like hard work to get to where I wanted to be. Certainly doesn't warrant the extra expense IMO. Can't comment on the glass. I guess it depends what you want out of it. I don't want it for functional purposes, just purely hedonistic ones.
 
As I've said before, I like my drugs like my women - cheap and dirty :)

I've had the crystal several times but fucked it off cos it was even more of a creeper than The Creeper, and too much like hard work to get to where I wanted to be. Certainly doesn't warrant the extra expense IMO. Can't comment on the glass. I guess it depends what you want out of it. I don't want it for functional purposes, just purely hedonistic ones.

Yeah if i was using it I would want the rushy one too. I am probably lucky we cant get it here as i do like my stims.
 
Talking shit about 3-FPM is a consistent effect of 3-FPM, right Fubz? ;)

I remember flooding the fucked thread with very similar posts when I first began lizard hunting. ;)
 
Talking shit about 3-FPM is a consistent effect of 3-FPM, right Fubz? ;)

I remember flooding the fucked thread with very similar posts when I first began lizard hunting. ;)

Hi Sprout! Wondered where you'd got to :)

Yes, that is a relatively consistent effect, but we appear to have veered toward methamphetamine now...
 
And Lemmy :)

Verily, I am a master of the tangent...

Anyway, back on topic. Caught the trade vapours out of the doldrums a couple of hours ago. Sailing towards the zone now. The rushes have returned and all I wanna do is talk shit to you lot - but I've got to clean my fuckin van...
 
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Hi Sprout! Wondered where you'd got to :)

Yes, that is a relatively consistent effect, but we appear to have veered toward methamphetamine now...

Yeah, apologies for my disappearance - unfortunately had a mass of real world related shit to work through, been unexpectedly busy but I'm now clear to return to my post as stick waving, stim ranting Sprout. ;)

Just a heads up that I will soon wave my stick and move the OT discussion over to Gibberings. :)
 
Aw man, I didn't think you had the balls to actually go through with it... :(

I'm now going to flounce off in a strop to clean my van..
 
I have testicles, a camera and a tray of 3-FPM - they could be combined to dispel all doubt regarding my balls....

*cough*

=D

It was actually a good thing - forced me to do my job properly and update Gibs and the Index. :)
 
Don't think you can get round me like that young feller me lad. I'm in a huff and refuse to be baited into interacting with you!

(Oh fuck...)
 
Don't think you can get round me like that young feller me lad. I'm in a huff and refuse to be baited into interacting with you!

(Oh fuck...)

It's okay, many get remarkably grumpy when they reach your age, old fella'. ;)
 
dopamine/noradrenaline reuptake inhibitors are all terrible ideas as treatments for depression, this is why they aren't prescribed for depression, drugs like (md)PV, phenmentrazine (3fpm today) hark back from the 70's when they thought it was a good idea - then they were all withdrawn from the market because they were triggering psychosis and have high abuse potential.

after 2 years of abusing mdpv heavily, it has taken me years to fully recover from the whole experience, it left me suffering from post traumatic stress disorder and it had taken me to absolute rock bottom. over 4 year later and I'm still trying to get my life back on track.

Just wanted to clarify that reuptake inhibition isn't the MoA of (3-F)PM, they are remarkably strong releasing agents (if one ignores the intricate semantics re: VMAT/TAAR) - far closer to Amphetamines than Pyrovalerones.
DRA's are even less suitable as depression treatments as they punch the proverbial pleasure button directly, which is innately self-reinforcing. They produce unrivaled downregulation rates and display marked neurotoxicity.
 
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I just vaped 10mg off some foil and it hasn't done much, then again I have had some 3-meo-pcp today. I guess it got me to go outside for a walk.
 
I just vaped 10mg off some foil and it hasn't done much, then again I have had some 3-meo-pcp today. I guess it got me to go outside for a walk.

I would not expect to feel anything off 10mg either. Is that the dose you usually take? My rule of thumb is bang a pile down and keep tooting till you feel something. Depending upon type, that can take a few minutes to several hours.

@Sprout: If DRAs are inherently neurotoxic, why isn't amphetamine? Or is it?
 
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After my surprisingly positive trial of potential functionality recently I've been trying to narrow down the particular point the recreational aspects begin to detract from the functional potential.
I even switched ROA to oral (which I will say carried thoughts of how much I was wasting relative to chasing/IV) and dropped my initial dose substantially.
~100mg vaped made it far easier to grasp concepts and analyse them thoroughly but the thoughts were a little too uncontrollable and unfocused for maximum efficiency. ~6h after the single dose I was hit with the full rebound, with the 4th hour marking the end of positive effects.
~75mg vaped provided "workhorse" stimulation (tedious and mind-numbing tasks weren't an issue) and more focused thought flow.
~75mg orally produced a much more physical push than vaping and thus would be beneficial if a strenuous or intense physical task was to be accomplished, however as I require only the physicality to carry and open textbooks in my life, I have much more use for the cognitive effects.

(NB: Yes, I have a large tolerance. No, you likely will need much less than my doses. No, this is not a recommendation. Yes, using stimulants frequently is completely unsustainable).

EDIT: Fubs, Amphetamine is a neurotoxin and specifically impacts Dopamine-related neural components: the nerve terminals, reduced expression of Tyrosine Hydroxylase and AA Decarboxylase, the vesicles and the membrane of DAT.
However, "the dose makes the poison" is a relevant and accurate phrase. Though quantitative evidence of toxicity exists it must be pointed out that the evidence usually derives from non-primate testing and relative doses that are unlikely to be reached by humans. It's difficult to assess the validity fully but would be unwise to ignore the potential.
The biggest single factor is the oxidative stress from the presence of ROS.
 
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