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kittyman96

kittyman96

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So I know this is just a really unsupported claim, however I know of a couple people who smoked from teens through adulthood and died from brain aneurysm in their 50s. Am I just linking these deaths completely wrong, or do you think there is a possible correlation of long term cannabis use and the creation of brain aneurysm?
 
Unlikely and this probably applies: Correlation does not imply causation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation

I have never heard of any connection between the two and i am someone who will argue that marijuana isnt some harmless benign substance that everyone should use. I think you are mistaking something that happens when you get older to something that is caused by marijuana.
 
One of my good friends had a brain aneurysm and almost died. Il never forget the day he called me from the hospital scared he was gonna die talking about he's having brain surgery. He's only 27 or 28. We been smoking since about 14-15 years old. He lost vision in his left eye and had to have surgury to correct it but it didn't work, now they wanna go in on the right side and operate. Im wondering if smoking had anything to do with it now.. Btw while on subject of smoking causing health probs, without getting to off topic, sorry, i think smoking weed is linked to heart problems. My dad had a heart attack and smoked 25 years. My uncle had a heart attack and smoked just as long. I smoked 13 years and my heart acts funny all the time. Were the only ones in the fam with heart probs. My doc always asks me if im smoking weed, cause there trying to link weed smoking to heart disease. A good % of people who have heart probs smoke i guess. My dad says his doc always asks him if he's smoking weed or has before or he'll hear him asking patients if they smoke weed. Maybe weed isnt this harmless miracle plant everybody thinks it is.. It's also *supposdly* linked to obiesty. Lol..
 
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Salutations,

I'm deeply concerned reading titles like this:

« Long term Cannabis use have the ability to create brain aneurysm »​

Clearly this is an affirmative statement while the text simply fails to support such irresponsible anounce, so for me that's just 1 more trophy in favour of bigots, end of story, meet my [ Ignore ] list.

Hoping trolls won't pass the word and come around in great numbers, since this is going to collect via Google's cache anyway...

Good day, have fun!! =D
 
kittyman96 said:
So I know this is just a really unsupported claim, however I know of a couple people who smoked from teens through adulthood and died from brain aneurysm in their 50s. Am I just linking these deaths completely wrong, or do you think there is a possible correlation of long term cannabis use and the creation of brain aneurysm?
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Even if there was a significant correlation (and I doubt it), correlation does not equal causation. Assuming there was a significant correlation and you took this to indicate a causal relationship, why would you infer a causal direction? Perhaps predisposition to brain aneurysm causes cannabis smoking. Note that I am not suggesting I believe this, but it is just as reasonable as a hypothesis as the suggestion that cannabis smoking causes brain aneurysm is, assuming the only available evidence is a strong positive statistical relationship between the two variables.
 
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I meant it as a question. I should have put a question mark after it, my bad. I just wanted to start a discussion on the topic seeing as it is not a really talked about thing.
 
Were they all caffeine users? How about red meat eaters? Did they eat trans fats? What I'm trying to say is because you've known some people that have died from aneurysm they most likely had other things in common then just smoking weed. Even if they had other common denominators doesn't mean that shit like genetics didn't play a role or maybe stress or bad water supply. What I'm trying to say i's not so easy to go fro A to B and C is your answer there are to many variables.
 
Even if they had other common denominators doesn't mean that shit like genetics didn't play a role or maybe stress or bad water supply. What I'm trying to say i's not so easy to go fro A to B and C is your answer there are to many variables.[/QUOTE]

Definitely not denying this; however, the possibility of long term marijuana use to cause brain aneurysms just does not seem too out of the picture to me seeing as more research has shown that heavy marijuana does have actual legitimate affects on brain chemistry and structure.
 
Well let's put it this way, I fucking hope not but I seriously doubt it! I'm sorry to hear about your friends.
 
kittyman96 said:
I meant it as a question. I should have put a question mark after it, my bad. I just wanted to start a discussion on the topic seeing as it is not a really talked about thing.
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It's not a talked about thing because YOU JUST MADE IT UP. I'm really not sure why you're so confused. Cannabis actually does not "have actual legitimate affects on brain chemistry and structure." Please cite your sources, or go troll on a forum with a less astute user base.
 
Felonious Monk said:
It's not a talked about thing because YOU JUST MADE IT UP. I'm really not sure why you're so confused. Cannabis actually does not "have actual legitimate affects on brain chemistry and structure." Please cite your sources, or go troll on a forum with a less astute user base.
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Yeah , I kinda felt like he was pulling facts out of his ass!
 
Felonious Monk said:
It's not a talked about thing because YOU JUST MADE IT UP. I'm really not sure why you're so confused. Cannabis actually does not "have actual legitimate affects on brain chemistry and structure." Please cite your sources, or go troll on a forum with a less astute user base.
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"The dose-dependent toxicity of the main psychoactive component of cannabis in brain regions rich in cannabinoid CB1 receptors is well known in animal studies. However, research in humans does not show common findings across studies regarding the brain regions that are affected after long-term exposure to cannabis. In the present study, we investigate (using Voxel-based Morphometry) gray matter changes in a group of regular cannabis smokers in comparison with a group of occasional smokers matched by the years of cannabis use. We provide evidence that regular cannabis use is associated with gray matter volume reduction in the medial temporal cortex, temporal pole, parahippocampal gyrus, insula, and orbitofrontal cortex; these regions are rich in cannabinoid CB1 receptors and functionally associated with motivational, emotional, and affective processing."

http://www.nature.com/npp/journal/v39/n9/full/npp201467a.html

That is just one of the first sites that popped up when I googled it, but I have heard multiple college professors speak of the exact same thing, so apparently it is an accepted fact among quite a few science and scholarly types... that yes, cannabis use DOES, in fact, impact the chemistry and shape of the human brain.

To be honest, I would like to see your sources that claim there is absolutely no impact on the brain & its chemistry from taking a psychoactive drug... I'm not saying it causes aneurysms, but your statement should be reworded without a doubt.
 
Billard said:
One of my good friends had a brain aneurysm and almost died. Il never forget the day he called me from the hospital scared he was gonna die talking about he's having brain surgery. He's only 27 or 28. We been smoking since about 14-15 years old. He lost vision in his left eye and had to have surgury to correct it but it didn't work, now they wanna go in on the right side and operate. Im wondering if smoking had anything to do with it now.. Btw while on subject of smoking causing health probs, without getting to off topic, sorry, i think smoking weed is linked to heart problems. My dad had a heart attack and smoked 25 years. My uncle had a heart attack and smoked just as long.
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did your dad, brother or uncle smoke cigarettes? use alcohol? cigarettes? have a history of heart disease?

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I smoked 13 years and my heart acts funny all the time. Were the only ones in the fam with heart probs. My doc always asks me if im smoking weed, cause there trying to link weed smoking to heart disease. A good % of people who have heart probs smoke i guess. My dad says his doc always asks him if he's smoking weed or has before or he'll hear him asking patients if they smoke weed. Maybe weed isnt this harmless miracle plant everybody thinks it is.. It's also *supposdly* linked to obiesty. Lol..
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my heart acts funny too. not all the time but mostly when i'm high on anything that makes it beat fast.

i definitely agree that smoking weed isn't this harmless miracle plant that everybody thinks it is. some people may receive benefit from it but as with most psychoactive drugs, they're never really healthy for the body.

moderation is key.

kittyman96 said:
So I know this is just a really unsupported claim, however I know of a couple people who smoked from teens through adulthood and died from brain aneurysm in their 50s. Am I just linking these deaths completely wrong, or do you think there is a possible correlation of long term cannabis use and the creation of brain aneurysm?
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i think heavy cocaine has a higher risk for causing an aneurysm than weed. (the study i got that from doesn't mention the purity or if the metabolites found in the patients' urine was cocaethylene or just cocaine.) i can probably attest that heavy cocaine use will cause an aneurysm before heavy use with any other drug. stimulants will be second. then maybe i'd consider weed. to be honest though, i think it will be near impossible to pin the cause of an aneurysm to weed use.

the problem is that most people do many other things that are also causes of aneurysms.
 
Wow for a moderator on drug culture, you really know nothing about science and pharmacology Felonious Monk. And I dont need to cite sources seeing as all this shit can be found by yourself by spending a minute of your time doing some research. So before you go calling me out, read a book or, go to college or just simply educate yourself!!!
 
Still gonna smoke it regardless, my body and mind feel like its beneficial, and I dont think this is a "master of puppets" or just the "drug lying to my body" type situation as with other drugs. Still chiefin'.
 
To be honest a brain aneurysm is something I would prefer to die of than pretty much anything else so I'm not really worried, I was just wondering with the recent research thats been conducted (and the stuff they are working) if they had found anything showing a correlation;however, I know that there are so many factors that lead to that stuff so its hard to get a definitive answer. And btw both people I knew died in early 50s, didn't smoke cigs or drink. Thats why so many people I know have been throwing around this idea about a correlation between weed and brain aneurysms.
 
Doesn't smoking anything cause health issues? I mean, cannabis has a huge array of carcinogens when it's combusted, a lot of them are also in tobacco smoke. We all know tobacco causes heart disease etc.. why would smoking weed be any different? You'd have the same issue smoking any organic material, vaping is a good solution and I'm pretty sure it'll take over as the most used method of consumption in the next few years.
 
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