Is there a RC I can use to help me sleep after taking 3fpm ? An answer or a personal message if its breaking rules would be appreciated.
It's not an RC but the best med for this job is most definitely olanzapine. Nothing will resolve a stimulant high as smoothly as this neuroleptic, at least no drug I have tried. Many people will recommend benzos, but those don't
directly antagonize the effects of 3F-P and they pose a larger risk for addiction and ultimately most severe dependence.
Try finding someone who underwent psychosis, they often have a few leftover tablets from their acute episodes, since it's among the first choices in treatment of acute psychotic states, especially in treatment of full-blown mania.
like how blatantly fucking stupid and if not beyond junkie, harm reduction LMAO?
Go to the doctor, tell him wtf your doing, and there shouldnt even be a problem getting fentanyl or codeine syrup, ritalin, blah blah etc, you people must be desperate and ruined..... by the way I am an aussie.
You are in the wrong place to be calling people junkies. That is best left to us junkies. If you got the idea that everyone here on bluelight practices harm reduction with the high standards you have chosen for yourself, then you are wrong. If you think self destructive patterns of drug use are based on free choices made by mentally healthy people, you are also dead wrong. I also don't know what makes you think me or other people you refer to in your post are not receiving psychiatric treatment.
In other words: Learn some fucking respect or bitch at your parents for not having taught you any.
That being said, you really need to read up on your drugs, what you are saying makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Try replacing a crackhead's pipe with ritalin pills lol, let alone codein pills. What world do you live in, brother?
In the world of IV stimulant users, borderline overdoses are not a rarity. There is something called a 'bell ringer' (called that way due to the high pitched sounds one will perceive) which is probably the closest you can get to a cardiovascular event. We don't primarily do stimulants to be stimulated, it's just an aspect of the aftermath or rather the price the rush comes at, at least for me it is. I'll usually eat olanzapin to get rid of the stimulation after or shortly before I am done dosing.
Sure, it's easy to call all these stimulant rush chasing people stupid junkies, but with that attitude you're not going to find many friends here and your account will probably not last forever either.
Cool, thanks for the info. Based on your experiences, what are the approximate doasges that separate the lines between functional stim, empathogen/entactogen, and sraight up dopaminergic stimulation? Also, how does insufflation compare to oral routes with this stuff?
10-20mg are enough for functional stimulation. Even 2 days after using 2g I will still feel the effect of 10mg. The empathogenic state is barely present for me, but I'd put it somewhere between 150 and 250mg oral, the major dopamine surges start at 400mg IV for me or 600-700mg oral. These doses might very well kill you, so by no means should you treat my words as a recommendation, quite on the contrary.
@SproutOnSmack
That is an excellent post. That second paragraph just nails it.
By the way my dopamine fiending brain has once again found a way to rationalize getting another few grams (requested a 5g sample of the 'crystalline' version d'oh), after I had thrown away a lb of this stuff since it brought on some very serious health issues (Thrombosis, needle fixation related compulsions, in consequence an abscess, horrible neurogenic pains and hypesthesia of the extremities).
I should also mention that the neurogenic pains have resolved entirely. I am on roughly 400mg Tramadol per day, but that doesn't manage to cover up the paresthesiae anyway. More importantly I managed to get off Ibuprofen. Anyone who experiences numbness or other unusual sensations in theextremities ... No, let me rephrase: If I experience these symptoms again, I will definitely go for 100mg ASS and 600mg Ibuprofen.
The hypesthesia on the other hand is still slightly noticable, but is on it's way to be resolved entirely. I expect there to be another episode after the next dosing spree. To me there is no doubt this stuff is neurotoxic to clinically significant degree at recreational doses, possibly due to it's vasoconstrictive properties, but that is just a wild guess. I barely even look forward to the experience, it scares me for the lack of control I maintain on it due to the compulsions. The rush is so damn intense though that I catch myself thinking about it every single day still. Would strongly disadvise IV use of this substance, especially in the higher dosage range. I for my part ordered some MXE to keep myself entertained and hopefully forget about the stimulants for a while.
