RCs 3F-Phenmetrazine (3-FPM)

[enzoff]

finaly tried the stuff... Weakest stimulant ever tried 0.2 dose felt nothing but a burning in my nose and horrible drip put the rest 0.8 in a line and rail it, realy nothing much i can say slight stimulation like drinking a red bull :S i dont what you guys see in this drug

 

[Savinsky]

Maybe your batch was no good or you sniffed abit too hard due to excitement, and now its stuck in the walls of your face! :O

 

[Sprout]

Guys; this is probably the best place to report this. I mentioned earlier in the thread about the vast difference in effects between batches and hypothesised vendor contamination given the 'Phenidate ban.

Low and behold: WEDINOS samples W003462 and W003461.
3-FPM, Lidocaine and Isopropylphenidate.

 

[foolsgold]

If he's like many of us, he won't think much at first, but try it again and enjoy it more and more each time, experiment with ROA and dose until he finds his sweet spot. Eventually he might end up echoing myself, Cr00k, FUBAR and Foolsgold with the notion that this chemical is unique, in a highly addictive, insidious way.

YMMV and all that.

And for the sake of hypocrisy, I have 3.5 grams ordered after swearing never to touch it again...

yeah and i am the one who cant take this stuff any more makes me to dangerous its rocket full for my temper this stuff

 

[deemeein]

deemeein at what dosage? It only struck me as serotonergic in the higher dosage range, 200mg iv per dose and more. .... The amnesia also is a strong indicator for neurotoxicity.

Hey cr00k, the dose is around 25-30mg each time every couple of hours, this is day 2 and I am noticing shifts in my eyesight and also a bit of amnesia which aint great but I am still getting stuff done. Also feel a bit of weight on my heart which I didn't expect from it, and I hear you when you say about the neuro pain - I get random pains too... and just ate and feel really bloated lol! not to be too negative about it, but will see if it has potential to replace ethylphenidate for me, but not looking too good right now. MPA is really a no go for me too as it seems to particalize my eyesight and I see movement in static pictures and stuff after using it for a day or so, which isn't a good thing!

 

[methyldreams]

I'v seen in this thread some really clean so called acetone washed 3-FPM crystals.

Can anyone tell me what it tasted like to smoke?

Even anybody who has vaped straight from the bag, Can you explain the taste?

 

[Savinsky]

Im starting to think not to good, or either its that good, and making people so smart, they dont want to blow it up like all the other crap in the past, who knows, I will definitely be making a report ASAP and to the point, covering everything that has been missed, like how clean it feels at various doses, how much you need to flood yourself and shut down, like i dont even know how you can compare this to ethyl, being up for 2 days with ethyl, you feel like a filthy door mat, like complete and utter catatonic garbage, even if you try go on, your a zombie anyway, and deemein, consider how much ethyl you would have needed by this point, and how your body would be in comparison, sweat, all this crap, why doesnt anybody mention these things, I gather its great, since there was a dude who worked on it for a solid month, and used it in saline solutions up the nose, in very small dose ranges, and was very smart about the metabolite build up residual stim effect, as far as vaping, f*** you all and your vague answers about it, like wtf is foil?!?!?, is it an issue of being poor, lazy, wtf? how clean the smoke is, whatever, i dont think its that great because if it was, people would be going rather crazy about it, in a more positive confident manner, rather then confusing semi guessing and check listing weird effects/side effects.

Come to think of it, its the snorters/shooters with the problem, not the smokers, I cannot wait to finally draw a bottom line.

 

[deemeein]

Come to think of it, its the snorters/shooters with the problem, not the smokers, I cannot wait to finally draw a bottom line.

Yeah I think I am tending to agree with you on that one for this one I have started putting unmeasured but relatively small amounts into coffee and drinking it lol... have to say it is leaving me pretty sketchy. Been up the past 2 days doing random stuff but my work. My dissertation is due today and I still have 10 pages to produce and the references and appendices lol but yet here I am with crazy visuals keyboard bashing on bluelight! G2G and do some work...!!!

 

[InterestingFACT]

Yeah I think I am tending to agree with you on that one for this one I have started putting unmeasured but relatively small amounts into coffee and drinking it lol... have to say it is leaving me pretty sketchy. Been up the past 2 days doing random stuff but my work. My dissertation is due today and I still have 10 pages to produce and the references and appendices lol but yet here I am with crazy visuals keyboard bashing on bluelight! G2G and do some work...!!!

As a "functional stimulant" I think this stuff is pretty garbage.

Maybe if you stuck to like 15mg in your coffee every morning it would just be like a booster to your caffeine, but IMO the stuff provides no focus or motivation, and at higher doses screws with your memory and produces other strange or worrisome effects. It's fairly recreational but moreso in a compulsive/bingey way than would be ideal.

I DO think it's one of the most successful stims to come out in the last few years, but it's definitely not interchangeable with the others--assess the reports and use at your own risk.

 

[deemeein]

Definitely not a functional stimulant as I have discovered in the final days before my thesis was due lol.... smart move grrr

I find it is causing random body pains, difficulty swallowing, slight on edge where you take a heavy huff, but worst of all interested in everything that's not what you need it to help with. Music is great on it and if you have a few days spare then a 2/3 day marathon it without much sleep, if any, would be/is fun as long as you don't get too much anxiety from the sketchy feeling. I've been taking 5mg diazepams here and there along the way which I think have helped considerably!

 

[noobcakes]

If you're snorting 100mg then what would the suggested vaping dose be, out of interest?

 

[rugged butthole]

Guys; this is probably the best place to report this. I mentioned earlier in the thread about the vast difference in effects between batches and hypothesised vendor contamination given the 'Phenidate ban.

Low and behold: WEDINOS samples W003462 and W003461.
3-FPM, Lidocaine and Isopropylphenidate.

Seems I was right, I was convinced this was a 3 component mixture. Where did these results come from?

 

[Guinea Pig2]

Ordered 3 grams of 3FPM Crystal and prepared 250mgs for intravenous use.

Experienced chemical taste at the back of my throat with an onset of an elevated heart rate accompanied with body tremors, but short lived. Feel very stimulated and clear headed with a strong libido effect... Have noticed i tend to smoke repetitively:roll-up after roll-up. Nothing compared to Ethlyphenidate but still provides a mild stimulation but initial rush only lasts for 2-5 minutes and plateaus for 3 to 4 hours before redosing with lesser dose of 100mgs (intravenously) which intensifies the stimulation without any rush first experienced with first dose...

 

[Sprout]

Seems I was right, I was convinced this was a 3 component mixture. Where did these results come from?

I cannot say, unfortunately.

OT: Vaped ~300mg over the course of today and had 'a blast'; now for more.

Come here, lil' dragon.

 

[Angryfire]

Been railing this but the burn and the taste (at the back of the mouth) is very grim and is putting me off.
Can this stuff be bombed and would half a gram be enough?
How long can I expect the effects to last before I can sleep?
Will bombing give any side effects?

Always enjoyed bombing mcat......just wondering if this would be as good.

 

[steewith2ees]

VAPE IT!!!

it runs beautifully on foil - same technique as if your chasing no3 heroin (base).

It can be bombed, and 500mg is far too much. Your dealing with what should be a 90% + pure product, not some diluted coke or amphtamine sulphate off the street

 

[crOOk]

Yeah I think I am tending to agree with you on that one for this one I have started putting unmeasured but relatively small amounts into coffee and drinking it lol... have to say it is leaving me pretty sketchy. Been up the past 2 days doing random stuff but my work. My dissertation is due today and I still have 10 pages to produce and the references and appendices lol but yet here I am with crazy visuals keyboard bashing on bluelight! G2G and do some work...!!!

I can't even manage to make a bluelight post despite meanign to for an entire 3 days - every single time I take the stuff. I've never seen a substance on which I can feel so confident about all the stuff I'm getting done without moving a muscle.

It can be bombed, and 500mg is far too much. Your dealing with what should be a 90% + pure product, not some diluted coke or amphtamine sulphate off the street

Could you easily vape 500mg in a few seconds though without coughing? That's the dose I've usually taken IV and I'm wondering if I could vape instead. Is there a powerful rush?

Have noticed i tend to smoke repetitively:roll-up after roll-up.

Funny, I usually go 2 days without a microgram of nicotine when I'm on it. I just don't think of it.

Low and behold: WEDINOS samples W003462 and W003461.
3-FPM, Lidocaine and Isopropylphenidate.

Thank you!

 

[Sprout]

Cr00k, do you just stare at the work to be done/empty text box and simply think of a suitable post, without writing a word?

I find this chem a little directionless, meaning unless you actively engage in something productive; it's easy to find you're a gram down, it's 18 hours later and you haven't moved a muscle. However, if you consciously (and repeatedly) remind yourself to do a task, there is a productive edge, particularly if such a task is creative.

I imagine the upper limit is based on how you plan to vapourise it and how efficient your technique is.
I stick to Dragon chasing and I would imagine it to be very difficult to chase 500mg in one line. After 150mg or so, it burns unevenly, making it impossible to 'run' it. You're better off vaping ~50mg or so over a few lines. The rush won't compare to IV; but it's actually not too far from smoked M-Amp or the original Phenmetrazine.

I, too, kind of forget I am a 30mg/day (15-20 cigarettes) Nicotine addict, though most dopamine agonists elicit this effect in me. If I do smoke, it feels pointless; the DA system is already flowing due to the 3-FPM.

 

[KontrolledKa0s]

Ordered some 3-FPM a few days ago, so I will report back.
This substance looks very promising though and I'm quite excited to work with it. It seems that people are experiencing varying degrees of euphoria on this stuff based on dosage. Low dosages seem akin to a caffeine-like buzz while higher doses might produce a greater sense of well-being. But hey, I haven't experienced this substance before so I'm only speculating.

Would anyone care to compare this stuff to another substance?
I've worked with 2-FMA and imagine that higher doses of 3-FPM might feel similar to it, but with less euphoria.

 

[Sprout]

Ordered some 3-FPM a few days ago, so I will report back.
This substance looks very promising though and I'm quite excited to work with it. It seems that people are experiencing varying degrees of euphoria on this stuff based on dosage. Low dosages seem akin to a caffeine-like buzz while higher doses might produce a greater sense of well-being. But hey, I haven't experienced this substance before so I'm only speculating.

Would anyone care to compare this stuff to another substance?
I've worked with 2-FMA and imagine that higher doses of 3-FPM might feel similar to it, but with less euphoria.

If you get the real stuff, it blows most stims out of the park, IMHO.
It has a very unique feel, seeming to combine the primary effects of several compounds. Dosage is more important with 3-FPM than other drugs, as the high shifts completely in character, from a functional, non-euphoric anorectant (like MPA), to a blissful empathogen, to an absolute powerhouse of a DA euphoriant, in the realms of pure Cocaine, 4-MAR or M-Amp!

It does carry some heavy side effects, but given the sheer tweakfest you can have, they seem like a pretty fair trade.
However, please don't read that as a positive. This compound is novel in every sense, data on toxicity is sparse, though I am fairly certain future clinical data will reveal quite serious neurotoxicity - in the range of M-Amp. Its effect on peripheral neuronal feedback worries me; Cr00k can elucidate on that better than I can, and I urge you to read every high dose report you can.

Numbness in the hands/feet, strong vasoconstriction that is not felt, but is highly evident upon examination, joint pains (I have degenerative arthritis which usually affects just my legs, the appearance of symptoms in my back and fingers can be correlated with my use), severe anorexia, frequent amnesia, major residual stimulation - all factors that indicate toxicity.

Not to mention the incredible potential for binging and addiction - the compulsion to increase (often unnecessarily) the dose and frequency really does give vapourised Methamp/Cocaine a run for its money.

The euphoria is solid, but please remain aware of the risks.
Stay safe.


OT: been vaping 3-FPM religiously for 36 hours, I have to say; though it feels smoother than many binge-stimulants (Cocaine, M-Amp, EPD, 'Drone) would by this point, there is definitely some sketchiness developing. Used roughly 1200mg since I opened the first bag of 500mg, then rationalised a second half gram, and I'm soon to finish off the third.
Returns are rather diminished, but not as much as I'd expected, blowing out those plumes of beautiful smoke still yields Dopaminergic euphoria.