The Lounge now a hidden subforum

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baooozs said:
would you mind illuminating me on what the issue is with making the lounge subscription only?
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What happens to an invisible forum that requires approval to join? The influx of new users stagnates. Either people can't be arsed to sign up or they don't even know The Lounge exists in the first place. So you'll have Loungers who inevitably stop posting but no one to fill their place. Which is ultimately what the goal is:

we've heard "scrap it", "it's a cesspool", "it doesn't belong on bluelight"
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Seems to come from a small, yet vocal, minority who don't even participate in the Lounge. Looks like they won.
 
Max Power said:
What happens to an invisible forum that requires approval to join? The influx of new users stagnates. Either people can't be arsed to sign up or they don't even know The Lounge exists in the first place. So you'll have Loungers who inevitably stop posting but no one to fill their place. Which is ultimately what the goal is:
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there are ways to fix that. we can find many ways to raise awareness to new members about the existence of the lounge. we can encourage people to participate. there are several popular drug forums that follow the exact same format for many of their social and/or obscure forums to great effect. also, people don't exactly join the lounge at an alarming rate. if you look at the top 20-30 lounge posters 90%+ of those names have always been familiar.

your point is valid though, but it doesn't mean we can't find a way to fix it if it will be a problem. we'll have to find a way to objectively analyze any possible stagnation and tackle it then.

no one has won. this isn't a fight. it's about finding a solution that suits everybody.
 
Max Power said:
What happens to an invisible forum that requires approval to join? The influx of new users stagnates. Either people can't be arsed to sign up or they don't even know The Lounge exists in the first place. So you'll have Loungers who inevitably stop posting but no one to fill their place. Which is ultimately what the goal is:


Seems to come from a small, yet vocal, minority who don't even participate in the Lounge. Looks like they won.
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There are ways we can explore to prevent this. This is a work in progress and we are all looking for the best possible result for everyone.
 
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baooozs said:
there are ways to fix that. we can find many ways to raise awareness to new members about the existence of the lounge. we can encourage people to participate. there are several popular drug forums that follow the exact same format for many of their social and/or obscure forums to great effect. also, people don't exactly join the lounge at an alarming rate. if you look at the top 20-30 lounge posters 90%+ of those names have always been familiar.

your point is valid though, but it doesn't mean we can't find a way to fix it if it will be a problem. we'll have to find a way to objectively analyze any possible stagnation and tackle it then.

no one has won. this isn't a fight. it's about finding a solution that suits everybody.
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Lol, yeah keep smoking the pipe. We all know nobody would put that much time into keeping the lounge alive, especially you admins.
 
Max Power said:
What happens to an invisible forum that requires approval to join? The influx of new users stagnates. Either people can't be arsed to sign up or they don't even know The Lounge exists in the first place. So you'll have Loungers who inevitably stop posting but no one to fill their place.
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qft

i haven't actually ran the numbers myself, but i would even go so far as to say that the majority of the posters in the lounge in 2014 have 2014 join dates

lounge is gonna just die now =/ none of those people would have found the lounge if the only way to view it is to find some obscure check box in their user settings

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i'm a member of quite a few other internet forums. most of them have one form or another of a troll den. they, however, have a setting to opt OUT of the rants and flames -- i.e. you can see the troll subforum by default, but you can easily go to your user settings and exclude the troll forum from your view. this is the first time in my 16 years of internetting that i have ever seen an opt-IN troll den....
 
baooozs said:
there are ways to fix that. we can find many ways to raise awareness to new members about the existence of the lounge. we can encourage people to participate.

no one has won. this isn't a fight. it's about finding a solution that suits everybody.
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You want to raise awareness and encourage participation in a forum you just made invisible and "member-only". Think about that for a moment.

I do believe there is a "side" that is winning. Somewhere along the way, a small group of people decided to bitch and moan and tried to fix the Lounge when it wasn't broken. It started with censorship and slowly has been evolving in a direction that will eventually cause it's complete eradication. Sad.
 
Max Power said:
You want to raise awareness and encourage participation in a forum you just made invisible and "member-only". Think about that for a moment.

I do believe there is a "side" that is winning. Somewhere along the way, a small group of people decided to bitch and moan and tried to fix the Lounge when it wasn't broken. It started with censorship and slowly has been evolving in a direction that will eventually cause it's complete eradication. Sad.
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so true max.

bravo.

...kytnism...:|
 
How does an open lounge benefit maps?

How does it benefit the rest of BL?

How does a well thought out and developed lounge hurt the lounge?

so true max.

bravo.

...kytnism.
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You know you guys are so full of shit.. TL does not encourage participation.. it openly discouraged it with most people. Its all about putting on a show. If you give it time we will all be smearing our own excrement over ourselves to an audience that laps it up. Most of you guys do not and have never owned a night club. I think GM own a night club and i would love to hear his take. You know what makes people want something harder than ever.. tell them they can't have it..
 
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neversickanymore said:
How does an open lounge benefit maps?
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When did bluelight have to start sucking maps dick? Oh wait, when we lost someone able to donate thousands of dollars. Maps is a good organization, but it's such shit they think a small sub-forum will do such harm to their name (if this is what you're getting at).
 
thenightwatch said:
qft. i haven't actually ran the numbers myself, but i would even go so far as to say that the majority of the posters in the lounge in 2014 have 2014 join dates.
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animal_cookie said:
the lounge

top 20 - 1 month
Code: 
Roger&Me		911
thenightwatch		859
Erich Generic		728
DexterMeth		718
lonewolf13		686
Captain.Heroin		520
Whosajiggawaaa		518
Lysis		476
laugh		439
papasomni		439
iheartthisthread		438
DrinksWithEvil		426
bagochina		387
Bob Loblaw		373
Two_in_the_pink		313
Tude		304
Blue_Phlame		275
shimazu		247
Mel22		210
lightofmeaning		198

top 20 - 3 months
Code: 
Erich Generic		2788
thenightwatch		2462
lonewolf13		2340
DrinksWithEvil		2248
DexterMeth		2131
Lysis		1587
axl blaze		1479
papasomni		1417
Roger&Me		1313
shimazu		1265
bagochina		1243
Thanatos		1172
Bob Loblaw		1154
gloeek		1086
xstayfadedx		1061
Tude		973
iheartthisthread		833
Captain.Heroin		806
laugh		786
Whosajiggawaaa		749

top 20 - 6 months
Code: 
thenightwatch		5254
Erich Generic		4732
lonewolf13		4358
DexterMeth		4272
DrinksWithEvil		3933
Roger&Me		3379
Lysis		3286
laugh		3222
shimazu		3039
papasomni		2765
axl blaze		2576
bagochina		2515
xstayfadedx		2344
Thanatos		1988
Bob Loblaw		1820
Tude		1702
We are all ONE		1550
Droppersneck		1490
Blue_Phlame		1420
One Thousand Words		1363

top 50 - 1 year
Code: 
lonewolf13		10620
Erich Generic		9987
thenightwatch		9484
DrinksWithEvil		9274
shimazu		7752
Lysis		7311
laugh		7096
pastelcircus		4903
bagochina		4883
MikeOekiM		4809
xstayfadedx		4647
DexterMeth		4486
Arci		4081
soundsystem00		3858
Thanatos		3795
We are all ONE		3561
Pharcyde		3509
Roger&Me		3379
Blue_Phlame		3334
Bob Loblaw		3193
Captain.Heroin		3097
papasomni		3082
One Thousand Words		2816
axl blaze		2588
iheartthisthread		2510
Owl Eyed		2208
tentram		2144
Mel22		2032
Animal Mother		1998
Seyer		1899
gloeek		1880
SarcasticOne		1857
Tude		1817
lightofmeaning		1754
foolsgold		1705
amanda_eats_pandas		1606
Droppersneck		1565
dopemaster		1559
Illyria99		1496
EbowTheLetter		1450
China Rider		1432
Bomboclat		1266
iLoveYouWithaKnife		1237
Noodle		1198
kaywholed		1198
beagleboy		1114
**busted**		1102
lostNfound		1100
D's		1090
Dtergent		1048
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neversickanymore said:
How does an open lounge benefit maps?
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that question sorta contradicts this quote:

neversickanymore said:
Sorry, if our for free, advertising free forum.. put together, maintained and evolved at request by volunteers is taking to much time for what looks like infantile patience.
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if this is a change being made to protect MAPS and the funding Bluelight receives from them then that is fine in my opinion. i really admire MAPS and what they do. but if thats what it is then just say it. no need to belittle people by pretending that this has nothing to do with money.
 
neversickanymore said:
How does an open lounge benefit maps?

How does it benefit the rest of BL?

How does a well thought out and developed lounge hurt the lounge?
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How does the forum that was meant for "lighthearted social discussion; post at your own risk!" accomplish those things?

You got me there.
 
baooozs said:
the lounge

top 20 - 1 month
Code:
Roger&Me 911
thenightwatch 859
Erich Generic 728
DexterMeth 718
lonewolf13 686
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obviously old numbers -- dextermeth and lonewolf13 definitely didn't do much posting in the last month.
 
Hey Baooozs can you please run an up to date chart if you know how to? That chart is pretty damn old like Harma is showing up as Kaywholed there. I'm not sure how to do it myself is all


Edit: holy shit like half that list has changed; fucking laugh is on there
 
i've gotta say, btw -- some of the loungers in this thread are being straight up rude and obstinate. i hope i am not coming off that way myself. this is not the lounge we're talking in, guys.
 
it's 9 months old. if you look at all the stats before that it's pretty much the same crew.

only admins can run forum stats.
 
thenightwatch said:
i've gotta say, btw -- some of the loungers in this thread are being straight up rude and obstinate. i hope i am not coming off that way myself. this is not the lounge we're talking in, guys.
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no, you're not. neither is max. every single other post, yes. does nothing towards finding a solution.

max, it's easy to think there's an us vs them mentality, but really, i think it's a fair enough middle ground when the site has such exposure, is consistently looking for funds from reputable organizations, yet has a place where it's okay to say nigger and faggot. it's all about compromise.
 
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