rave_itsrealfun!!!
Bluelighter
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It is really best to avoid taking Mdma. The stuff can really fuck your brain up, and it's not worth it for a night of pure ecstasy vs the rest of your life. I don't care what study you pull out of your ass, every human reacts differently and there is enough anecdotal evidence out there that people might experience horrific, life ruining side effects with limited use.
I come from a scientific background, but this is really just common sense here...
The ego tends to think it is invincible until it is put in its place. I never thought any of that shit would happen to me; I presently suffer from full blown panic disorder and chronic pain in my spine now that is most def related to my use of acid and mdma and I haven't done any recreational drugs in a year. It honestly feels like the acid or mdma burnt my spinal chord, it fucked with the nerves in my spine, or my spinal column somehow and now I am in excruciating pain 24/7 because I got high on that filth a few times and it gave me really bad muscle tension. There ain't not telling what the side effects could be. I used to be an athlete, that's all said and done now because I made this bad life choice. I cannot physically handle drinking a cup of green tea. In fact, I cannot physically handle being sober anymore and I need to take meds to calm myself down or I'd check myself out. I was never anything remotely like that before. I exercise, take nutritional supplements and eat very healthy but when the drug abuse catches up to you and you notice the side effects, it's already too late.
Of course there will be the typical "lsd does not cause brain damage" retaliation but do you really have that much faith in some sketchy black market paper you put on your tongue that gets you right fucked out of your mind for like 8 hours? If you trust yourself enough to put yourself through that, you have an ego problem. It's just totally unnecessary, unhealthy, and very dangerous to the brain. Sorry to crash the rainbow party. Some perfectly normal people take a high dose just once, and because of something to do with their particular body chemistry, or that particular batch of the drug (there being no quality control in place); for whatever reason they wind up essentially retarded and suffering for the rest of their lives. It boggles my mind that people consider something that gets you that high in any way safe or beneficial to the human organism. Same goes with mdma, I see them as two of the most dangerous drugs on the planet in regards to mental health. The evidence is in the mental ward.
And it doesn't mean that you "weren't ready for it" or "you can't handle the truth" or you any intangible hogwash like that... what these black market chemical drugs do is get you really, really high and it's irresponsible, immature, and dangerous. I hate that "underlying issues" excuse as well - some people are clearly getting by just fine in life until they use the hardcore chemicals that drastically alter the fragile structures of the brain resulting in damage and side effects. People use that hippy bullshit too, to generate the "hip" persona that they want other people to see them by and to deny that they are abusing hardcore drugs - I'll tell you what MDMA use does apart from the damage it does to the brains of humans, it is responsible for massive deforestation in Cambodia to acquire sassafras oil for the synthesis, and it funds criminal organizations full of trigger happy people. Plus paranoid chemists pollute the planet with the chemical byproducts of their synthesis... these clandestine labs are horrible for the environment, and dangerous to the general public as they often exist in residential areas. Sure this could be changed by legalization, but that's not going to happen and there's no need to fry your brain with that garbage, so every user funding the high level scumbags in this illegal industry is partly to blame.
Just because it hasn't happened to you (yet) does not mean that Mdma use fucks other people up, or perhaps you're just not paying enough attention until one day out of the blue you happen to experience sudden onset symptoms from hell. I didn't notice very much until long after I quit, but there is an obvious connection... and then upon reflecting on my usage, I could see how it was a downward spiral and I didn't even use it that much. It just initiated an ongoing instability or imbalance in my neurochemistry. I was a limited user for a very short time of my life, and have touched mdma or acid in years. You couldn't pay me $10,000 to take them again.
Most people I know who use it abuse it, and it saddens me to see such blatant self harm. Once is too much. Not to mention it's a really sketchy scene. Just because it goes purple to black doesn't mean you're getting pharmaceutical grade mdma, it is produced in scummy conditions by criminals with maximum profit in mind. If they aren't cutting it with small amounts of some bullshit (if you get the good stuff that is) that nobody would notice, they aren't maximizing their profits without increasing the risk. That just isn't safe for human consumption and it's really just basic common sense.
You guys are defending something that probably makes you feel the best and most pleasurable feeling you have ever felt in your life. Don't you think there might be some self delusion going on, in order to remain comfortable with repeating the experience in the future. Anything that feels that good is going to be psychologically addictive, and addicts tend to be in denial, especially with something like mdma that can screw your life in ways you didn't even know were possible after taking it a handful of times.
But you all "reagent test" so you're perfectly safe I'm sure... real responsible and nice way to treat your brain, huh, with that filth MDMA. Your fucking brain man; if you are polluting it with ultra powerful, almost magical feeling chemicals you got off some drug dealer for 10 bucks then I would re-evaluate why the fuck you are risking your mental health. Perhaps you do not understand what mental illness is; believe me, you want to avoid all potential risks of developing that misery, suffering, and agony.
I come from a scientific background, but this is really just common sense here...
The ego tends to think it is invincible until it is put in its place. I never thought any of that shit would happen to me; I presently suffer from full blown panic disorder and chronic pain in my spine now that is most def related to my use of acid and mdma and I haven't done any recreational drugs in a year. It honestly feels like the acid or mdma burnt my spinal chord, it fucked with the nerves in my spine, or my spinal column somehow and now I am in excruciating pain 24/7 because I got high on that filth a few times and it gave me really bad muscle tension. There ain't not telling what the side effects could be. I used to be an athlete, that's all said and done now because I made this bad life choice. I cannot physically handle drinking a cup of green tea. In fact, I cannot physically handle being sober anymore and I need to take meds to calm myself down or I'd check myself out. I was never anything remotely like that before. I exercise, take nutritional supplements and eat very healthy but when the drug abuse catches up to you and you notice the side effects, it's already too late.
Of course there will be the typical "lsd does not cause brain damage" retaliation but do you really have that much faith in some sketchy black market paper you put on your tongue that gets you right fucked out of your mind for like 8 hours? If you trust yourself enough to put yourself through that, you have an ego problem. It's just totally unnecessary, unhealthy, and very dangerous to the brain. Sorry to crash the rainbow party. Some perfectly normal people take a high dose just once, and because of something to do with their particular body chemistry, or that particular batch of the drug (there being no quality control in place); for whatever reason they wind up essentially retarded and suffering for the rest of their lives. It boggles my mind that people consider something that gets you that high in any way safe or beneficial to the human organism. Same goes with mdma, I see them as two of the most dangerous drugs on the planet in regards to mental health. The evidence is in the mental ward.
And it doesn't mean that you "weren't ready for it" or "you can't handle the truth" or you any intangible hogwash like that... what these black market chemical drugs do is get you really, really high and it's irresponsible, immature, and dangerous. I hate that "underlying issues" excuse as well - some people are clearly getting by just fine in life until they use the hardcore chemicals that drastically alter the fragile structures of the brain resulting in damage and side effects. People use that hippy bullshit too, to generate the "hip" persona that they want other people to see them by and to deny that they are abusing hardcore drugs - I'll tell you what MDMA use does apart from the damage it does to the brains of humans, it is responsible for massive deforestation in Cambodia to acquire sassafras oil for the synthesis, and it funds criminal organizations full of trigger happy people. Plus paranoid chemists pollute the planet with the chemical byproducts of their synthesis... these clandestine labs are horrible for the environment, and dangerous to the general public as they often exist in residential areas. Sure this could be changed by legalization, but that's not going to happen and there's no need to fry your brain with that garbage, so every user funding the high level scumbags in this illegal industry is partly to blame.
Just because it hasn't happened to you (yet) does not mean that Mdma use fucks other people up, or perhaps you're just not paying enough attention until one day out of the blue you happen to experience sudden onset symptoms from hell. I didn't notice very much until long after I quit, but there is an obvious connection... and then upon reflecting on my usage, I could see how it was a downward spiral and I didn't even use it that much. It just initiated an ongoing instability or imbalance in my neurochemistry. I was a limited user for a very short time of my life, and have touched mdma or acid in years. You couldn't pay me $10,000 to take them again.
Most people I know who use it abuse it, and it saddens me to see such blatant self harm. Once is too much. Not to mention it's a really sketchy scene. Just because it goes purple to black doesn't mean you're getting pharmaceutical grade mdma, it is produced in scummy conditions by criminals with maximum profit in mind. If they aren't cutting it with small amounts of some bullshit (if you get the good stuff that is) that nobody would notice, they aren't maximizing their profits without increasing the risk. That just isn't safe for human consumption and it's really just basic common sense.
You guys are defending something that probably makes you feel the best and most pleasurable feeling you have ever felt in your life. Don't you think there might be some self delusion going on, in order to remain comfortable with repeating the experience in the future. Anything that feels that good is going to be psychologically addictive, and addicts tend to be in denial, especially with something like mdma that can screw your life in ways you didn't even know were possible after taking it a handful of times.
But you all "reagent test" so you're perfectly safe I'm sure... real responsible and nice way to treat your brain, huh, with that filth MDMA. Your fucking brain man; if you are polluting it with ultra powerful, almost magical feeling chemicals you got off some drug dealer for 10 bucks then I would re-evaluate why the fuck you are risking your mental health. Perhaps you do not understand what mental illness is; believe me, you want to avoid all potential risks of developing that misery, suffering, and agony.
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