[MEGA] MDA Discussion

[Axed]

There might be some minor cross-tolerance from the 4-FA but not much. I personally find 100mg with two 50mg boosters later on to be perfect for me. Too much higher and I don't get much more of a high but a significantly worse crash. I'm more sensitive to MDA than I am to MDMA. I usually would bomb 150mg of MDMA to start with and use 60-80mg boosters.

What is your timeline for taking those boosters? And are we talking oral ROA for them or snorting?

 

[MagickalKat777]

What is your timeline for taking those boosters? And are we talking oral ROA for them or snorting?

I never dose MDXX any way other than orally now. Its largely a waste IMO. The obvious exception being plugging which is far more effective than oral when done right.

I took my first booster 3 hours after the initial drop or so, when I was still at the peak from the first bomb, then dropped the last bomb (if I decided to drop it) when the peak of the first two ended. I really only ever needed that booster if I was going to an after party or I was at a house party though.

 

[angeleyes]

3 hours?!

 

[MagickalKat777]

Yeah 3 hours. Why?

MDA takes a good 45 minutes to an hour to peak for me so dropping a booster at the 3 hour mark it starts kicking in at 3:45 to 4 or so which is around the point that the peak from the first dose would be ending its first wave.

 

[Folley]

^ The sooner you take the booster the more effective it will be, after the first hour that major flood of serotonin causes a HUGE amount of tolerance. Any additional doses after that will be much, much less effective and the side effects will become more and more pronounced the longer you wait.



MDA lasts a good 5-6 hours already, with a single redose around the first hour mark it can easily last 7-8. I see no real reason to dose so late, it seems to me like you'd just be prolonging the comedown instead of actually intensifying the peak. With MDMA or methylone, I might understand... but with MDA I just don't get that.

 

[Section813]

Meh. All that depends on circumstances to some degree. Individual preference and differences in personal nuerochemistry can play a roll. /pun intended.

 

[MagickalKat777]

^ The sooner you take the booster the more effective it will be, after the first hour that major flood of serotonin causes a HUGE amount of tolerance. Any additional doses after that will be much, much less effective and the side effects will become more and more pronounced the longer you wait.

MDA lasts a good 5-6 hours already, with a single redose around the first hour mark it can easily last 7-8. I see no real reason to dose so late, it seems to me like you'd just be prolonging the comedown instead of actually intensifying the peak. With MDMA or methylone, I might understand... but with MDA I just don't get that.

I have done it this way for ages. I find that it greatly extends the duration of the peak if I time it right and for me, the 3 hour mark is perfect. It is almost unnoticeable that I redosed yet I end up with an 8 hour peak.

Honestly, redosing isn't really necessary with MDA unless you're partying and then going to the after party and can afford to be fried for days. One dose is generally enough. As you pointed out, MDA is quite long-lived. I find redosing on MDMA to be mostly worthless after the first dose unless it is within an hour of my first drop so...

Meh. All that depends on circumstances to some degree. Individual preference and differences in personal nuerochemistry can play a roll. /pun intended.

(cont) ... I think that ^ is probably applying in my case.

Although I can tell you that I have friends who taught me this dosing method (although theirs was 2 hours in, I tweaked it for my preference and found 3 hours to be my personal sweet spot). I don't know anyone who redoses so quickly on MDA unless they didn't take enough to begin with.

I have a lot more experience with MDA than MDMA just due to the pills that were going around when I was rolling every weekend so I figured out a routine and stuck to it. I was actually disappointed when I finally got MDMA the first few times.

 

[angeleyes]

Folley I tried your 45 minute method, my googness....

 

[Folley]

^ Right, lol? It's honestly a bit too much but it all just comes on so smoothly that you can't help but be amazed. I certainly wouldn't do that at a rave though, but at a house party it's just yyeeeeessssssss for hours on end.

I don't doubt your method works very well, MK777... I guess I just don't consider that to be a booster haha (more of an extender ). For me dosing like that only lengthens the high, doesn't really make it more intense. With your method the peaks would be one after another.. with mine they would overlap significantly, obviously causing you to look something of a mess while you rub your face on the floor. Neither way is wrong of course, it's all personal preference.



MDA can have some harsh comedowns though, I find that the severity is directly tied to how much you dose and when you redose.

 

[angeleyes]

The gradient made the night much more memorable and tolerable, definitely recommend for first timers/people who can't handle the full on effect but yeah house party for suuuure :D

3 hour extenders on MDA would be shocking the next day I can't imagine my poor brain going through that 8( Have they been tolerable for you MK?

 

[MagickalKat777]

3 hour extenders on MDA would be shocking the next day I can't imagine my poor brain going through that 8( Have they been tolerable for you MK?

Much more than bombing when I started to come up on the peak. Its one of the reasons that I preferred to do it like that. I got suicidal whenever I took it too early. Like EXTREMELY suicidal crashes. My first time I was actually picturing in my head all the ways I could kill myself. None of my friends bothered to warn me about the crash.

 

[angeleyes]

Was it more the unexpected drop from immediately consuming the whole amount?

As in a 200mg full euphoria rush then finding the comedown unbearable (naturally, like no shit who doesn't find it not great) is that why you need the boost extenders that delayed? Sorry to hear you were thinking some twisted stuff.

 

[MagickalKat777]

Was it more the unexpected drop from immediately consuming the whole amount?

As in a 200mg full euphoria rush then finding the comedown unbearable (naturally, like no shit who doesn't find it not great) is that why you need the boost extenders that delayed? Sorry to hear you were thinking some twisted stuff.

I dunno. I found doing it the way that Folley recommended to be even harsher than just doing a straight up double drop to begin with.

Either way MDA has a murderous crash when you overdo it but I found the timing of any redosing to be very important in how severe and how long it lasted. My 3 hour spacing lead to a prolonged but less-intense crash. I would drop on Saturday night, the crash would start in on Monday morning and it would remain at a low to mid level until Wednesday night. If I dosed and then dropped another dose when I hit the first peak, I crashed on Sunday and was suicidal on Monday afternoon but mostly recovered Tuesday night.

One huge difference though with the recovery. I was FAR more likely to suffer brain zaps from a double-drop or redosing at the start of the peak. I hate brain zaps more than any other comedown effect so maybe that's why I decided after getting shocked so much to stop dropping so much so early

 

[MrSpeedyG]

I gotta get me some MDA! I've only ever had the chance to try it mixed in with MDMA and the MDA dose was low, 80mg MDMA to 20mg MDA.

Can anyone comment on the music enhancement being better, worse or equal compared to MDMA?

Music enhancement is the first thing I look from any substance.

 

[angeleyes]

Much filthier beats and less melodies are required for MDA, surely.

 

[MagickalKat777]

I gotta get me some MDA! I've only ever had the chance to try it mixed in with MDMA and the MDA dose was low, 80mg MDMA to 20mg MDA.

Can anyone comment on the music enhancement being better, worse or equal compared to MDMA?

Music enhancement is the first thing I look from any substance.

Since there is so much scarce information about MDA, let me tell you about the peak my second time taking it.

I was at a party in Denver... Dropped a pink cupid (I believe I posted links earlier in this thread... they were dirty bastards Caff, MDA, meth), was feeling good, decided to drop another one...

Most of this was and still is a blur, I got a lot of it from third party explanations but I remember the music experience perfectly. Like it was happening right now it is so vivid.

One of my favorite local DJs hit the decks and I happened to start dancing. I love hard trance and he was throwing the hard dance down like you wouldn't believe. I hit the dance floor and just started moving with the music. Next thing I know, I feel electricity shooting through my body and I start seeing music notes flying out of the DJ booth and into me. As each music note hit me, I felt a physical sensation like I was being blasted with infinite waves of energy and I remember that everything around me disappeared. All that existed in that universe. In that time. On that plane. Was my soul, the DJ, and the music. I continued to progressively get more and more fucked up. This whole time, people were dumping water bottles on me to keep me from collapsing. I was completely in the zone and non-responsive to anyone around me.

When his set ended and the next DJ killed the music and restarted it, I snapped out of it and spent the night answering questions about what the hell possessed me because nobody had ever seen me dance hard and even more to the point, nobody had ever seen me dance well. I always was an out of place awkward white boy on the dance floor. That night changed me in so many ways. The rest of the roll was spent breaking down social barriers. I was pretty much a total reclusive and distrusting person (for good reason but I digress) but that night, I was hugging and kissing everyone (male, female, didn't really give a shit), I made a ton of friends that night (most of them I still talked to after I came down too - something that is unique to MDA with me. MDMA relationships are pretty much over with a few exceptions when I come down) and here's the best part... I had to work at 7AM... So I was eating half a pill every few hours to keep my energy at work up - had one of my best sales days I ever had at that job. LMAO

The crash was BRUTAL though. When I got home, mind you I had been eating pills since 9PM the night before and it was now 4 in the afternoon, I had a few beers until I passed out. I don't remember much of the next two days but my friends ended up over at my place taking care of me, I know that much.

Anyway... MDA has a magic with music that few other drugs can touch.

Sorry that was so scattered. You have to remember this happened all the way back in 2004.

 

[MrSpeedyG]

Far out then I defiantly got to get some MDA to try it! Music enhancement puts a huge smile on my face !

 

[MagickalKat777]

Music enhancement is an understatement with MDA. The hard stuff with dirty bass absolutely destroys you. Its incredible

 

[MrSpeedyG]

Music enhancement is an understatement with MDA. The hard stuff with dirty bass absolutely destroys you. Its incredible

Dude stop teasing!

 

[severely etarded]

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