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Zalo

Zalo

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Hey BlueLight,

Recently I have gotten my hands on what is supposedly very potent MDMA. This is probably the whitest, cleanest-looking MDMA I have ever seen. Apparently exceeding dosages of 100mg (a so-called veteran dose for this particular MDMA) makes it difficult to sleep. This wasn't a way to coerce me to buy this particular MDMA, it was more of a cautionary note after I had bought it. I've used Marquis, Mecke, Mandelin, and Simon's, so I know that it is MDMA. There were no other colours besides purple, black, and blue.

I'm wondering if anyone has encountered MDMA that was hand-crafted by Walter White himself. If it is as strong as it is claimed I would like to estimate a proper dosage for my next roll since I'm not a big fan of being floored.

Thank you.
 
I would advise 75mg.
Even for extremely pure MDMA a 100mg dose should usually be easily manageable, but start low if you don't like being too high.
 
Even the purest government lab made MDMA is still just MDMA, I don't see much point in dosing less than you normally would


Of course, always best to titrate dose up slowly
 
^ That.

Unless you normally dose 250mg + then you should be just fine imo.

Have fun man. :)
 
It's just MDMA. I'd take 120-150mg. I find this dose gets me fucked without being floored.
 
I normally take 120mg. This is a new batch from the same person, who also does MDMA himself, and said 130mg of this new product was too much.

I'd assume that the purest lab grade MDMA would be more potent than the MDMA of a klandestine lab technician who couldn't care less about impurities. There are cases of below average quality MDMA, so I don't see why the opposite can't be true. I'm just trying be cautious as I'm quite susceptible to the comedown and a higher than expected potency for the dosage I take would result in a worse comedown.
 
^ Isn't it true tho that MDMA can be effected by ones mood and shit, and other factors like how much they have eaten and how well their immune system is doing etc? I've had 100mg's of crystal mdma before that i was told by a friend was 'really potent' and it tested up really well, like yours, it smoked, bubbled/fizzed, but when I had it it did hardly anything.

I've had loads of pills that have had me so fucked and had so much fun, I guess loads of factors come into play. Unless it is lab tested I guess we'll (you) will never know.

As said in above posts, if you dont like to get too floored start on the low side and go up from there.
 
Sure it can be above the AVERAGE quality, but it's still just MDMA.


dose a little less than usual if you're really worried, not too hard to figure out IMO
 
It sounds like 6-APB to me....more potent than mdma...can't sleep afterwords, tests purple....sounds like 6-APB or one of those chemicals. Some people like them more than mdma, they last longer and are stronger by weight
 
I've tested it using 4 reagents and it is MDMA. Don't you require more mg/kg for 6-APB than MDMA anyways?

I'm planning to dose 100mg. Alcohol is alcohol, but your typical shot of 40% vodka is significantly weaker than a shot of 95% Everclear in terms of effects.

I was also wondering if anyone has come across "really potent" MDMA.
 
Yes but the guidelines given for doses on BL or sites like erowid are for products of relatively high purity. Look up alcohol on erowid and I bet it has the dosages listed in ml for pure ethyl alcohol
There's no way you can super concentrate the product to make it more potent than MDMA lots of the forum users have tried
 
You don't seem to understand what everyone is telling you. pure mdma is pure mdma, there is no such thing as "potent mdma" there is pure mdma and then there is cut mdma that isn't 100% mdma by weight so it might feel "less potent"..............

the only thing most stuff is the HCl salt...there is no lighter salt they could make it in I believe that wwould render it more potent....is there some salt that might make it all hit you at once or more bioavailable that might make it seem "more potent" to somebody than the hcl salt the HF salt would make it, more potent BY WEIGHT OF MATERIAL that you have, but this is very rare and somebody would be exposing themselves to all kinds of terrible toxic HF to make the HF salt for no reason so it would never happen.
 
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I've tested it using 4 reagents and it is MDMA. Don't you require more mg/kg for 6-APB than MDMA anyways?

I'm planning to dose 100mg. Alcohol is alcohol, but your typical shot of 40% vodka is significantly weaker than a shot of 95% Everclear in terms of effects.

I was also wondering if anyone has come across "really potent" MDMA.
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This is a poor analogy. If you usually obtain MDMA that has not been stepped on, it's unlikely that this new stuff is much different. Any alcohol that is 40% has, technically, been stepped on and is therefore not 'pure'. So of course there is a difference between the two. A better analogy would be if you took the MDMA, mixed one batch with 60% sugar and kept the other the same. One batch would be 40% pure MDMA, the other would be 100%. It's cutting such as that which explain why alot of Americans usually drop '.4' as a standard dose.

I wouldn't bother with the whole shit about how 'pure' it is. The dealer doesn't know, it's usually just marketting for sales. If you usually take 120mg and enjoy it, there's a good chance your product is just MDMA. Of which the difference to your recent batch will be minimal.
 
Yea I dont think I've ever been told my mdma was bunk, or even just okay for that matter. Everytime I pickup, I ask the guy (either a close friend or close dealer) if the shits good, and its always "the killsss" ...lol west coast slang I picked up, back in Ontario its always "the bomb" lol...

But anyways, if thats to say something, its that dealers are always out to market there product, so if it's powder its always good, because you have no way of proving otherwise. If it's weed, they'll still try sell you up, even if you know your green, and can clearly tell quality by first impressions. dont trust your dealer whether it's kills or not. The best thing to do is listen to their experience of the trip, and see if they make good pointers, if they got no story then they didn't trip, and its probably bunk. And what dealer isn't going to try "the real bomb" lol

In general where I am, it seems like the overall quality of m is poor, so I don't even count my money on it that im going to get mdma if I ask for it in the first place, let alone believe some dealer, (who could still be a close friend) that his shits kills.

The best thing would be to test it and then try for yourself based on erowids mdma dosages. If you take a lower dosage, then you may never know if it was better or not.
 
If you've been taking an methylone the whole time, and this is your first real mdma, then maybe it might be cautionary to lower the dose for your first experience on real m.
if your a somewhat regular user, (probably, bc you got the test kits) I can't see it really being a big issue.
How often do you roll? If only once or twice a year, it will probably hit you harder, (but isn't that the whole point of waiting so long, so that you experience full and utter euphoria when you finally dive in again?).
If you are a weekly user, I can't see there being a huge difference because your tolerance is lowered.
 
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Where did you get that information? That's a poor statement
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I think its just that americans ARE NOT taking mdma even though they think they are. I can't tell you how many youngsters I've had to explain that what they think they are taking IS NOT mdma, its methylone, they actually were taking m1 for the longest time believing it was molly and the real thing was so rare they didn't even know what it was....needless to saw its always funny when you talk to them after the first time they experience the real thing and "see the light" so to speak
 
Hey I just scored some clear, white, no smell MDMA which is different than my usual brown sugar sassy MDMA. Me and 2 others took it all being experienced MDMA users. Passed all tests as usual, and made 125mg pills like I normally do. I and the others rolled !Very! hard and I also saw mild visuals, It was managable for me but I'm pretty sure others are better off taking 100mg or lower. I had a similar batch like this last year from a different source, and had the same results. I'm really starting to believe the theory that smelly, sassy, brown mdma is less pure.
 
^ lol we've all been saying that for some time. Which is why anyone posts asking why their MDMA is brown I tell them to consider doing the acetone wash the chemist probably neglected to do.




the "sassier" the MDMA, the more impure it is likely to be.
 
I can't tell you how many youngsters I've had to explain that what they think they are taking IS NOT mdma, its methylone, they actually were taking m1 for the longest time believing it was molly and the real thing was so rare they didn't even know what it was
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Does methylone test up the same as mdxx or something? Or do all these youngsters you know not test and just drop anything? Me and my friends wont take anything that doesn't test up with all the reagents.
 
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