RCs 2'-chlorodiazepam (diclazepam) brand new benzo RC

[Halif]

I'm definitely noticing some kind of psychosis on higher doses of this drug.

Woah, really? On this "Diclazepam" and nothing else in your system?

What doses are you taking?

That doesn't sound too good.

EDIT: actually, that sounds like what I get when I'm on a stim binge and taking lots of benzos as well.....

If you're getting those effects from the Diclaz alone, it's a bit of a concern....

 

[2cAlex]

Damn, you people know your benzos. I read through this whole topic getting little nerdgasms here and here from all the sexy chemistry talk.

I wonder if I can get a hold of this, or any other RC benzo, here in Venezuela. I have blank signed and sealed scripts, so I can freely indulge in diazepam, alprazolam, clonazepam or bromazepam without much trouble, but anything slightly more exotic is by default absent from the local (legal) pharmaceutical market, and there is hardly any benzodiazepine street scene/culture in this country. Even something like pyrazolam, which I am genuinely interested in for to ease the harsh cocaine withdrawal I'm planning on facing, is virtually impossible to find legally or illegally down here.

I assume the vendors you folks keep mentioning are online sources (I'm guessing tor or something similar?), but even that is virtually impossible for a Venezuelan; our currency is controlled by the government, and cannot be converted freely into foreign currency as routinely done elsewhere in the world. Rather, there is a government-dictated fixed exchange rate (6.3 VBF = 1 USD) that is entirely arbitrary and unreal (the illegal, black market rate is around 38 VBF = 1 USD), and the foreign currency assignment government entity (CADIVI) has to approve your requests for USD, with various yearly limits depending on the purpose, with a maximum of $4000/yr for travel, for example (which requires proof, such as plane tickets, reservations, etc) or $3000/yr to support relatives overseas, but there is no "dubiously legal cutting edge narcotics" allotment.

Man, these are the days when living in the third world really blows.

wtf? Im moving to Venezuela you're now my homeboy..

 

[Transcendence]

Woah, really? On this "Diclazepam" and nothing else in your system?

What doses are you taking?

That doesn't sound too good.

EDIT: actually, that sounds like what I get when I'm on a stim binge and taking lots of benzos as well.....

If you're getting those effects from the Diclaz alone, it's a bit of a concern....

I am on morphine as well and I never noticed any psychotic symptoms from morphine, if any thing it quelled them.

I keep closing my eyes and seeing my phone text message icon be lit up with numbers and all of my friends would want to say hi and hang out with me. It's weird I'm like "Oh I can't wait for Alex to get here, I wonder what mood he'll be in, I should probably turn the lights on. And then I look at my phone and it's obv. empty.

 

[Sprout]

I am on morphine as well and I never noticed any psychotic symptoms from morphine, if any thing it quelled them.

I keep closing my eyes and seeing my phone text message icon be lit up with numbers and all of my friends would want to say hi and hang out with me. It's weird I'm like "Oh I can't wait for Alex to get here, I wonder what mood he'll be in, I should probably turn the lights on. And then I look at my phone and it's obv. empty.

I get this when I've taken a massive dose and start full on nodding, with the semi-conscious dream state flooding in.

 

[crazycatman]

Anyone know what this is soluble in? Assuming PEG would work? High proof alcohol (high as in vodka or high as 70%+ stuff)? Cooking oil? I know that water and low grade alcohol don't dissolve it.

Damn, you people know your benzos. I read through this whole topic getting little nerdgasms here and here from all the sexy chemistry talk.

I wonder if I can get a hold of this, or any other RC benzo, here in Venezuela. I have blank signed and sealed scripts, so I can freely indulge in diazepam, alprazolam, clonazepam or bromazepam without much trouble, but anything slightly more exotic is by default absent from the local (legal) pharmaceutical market, and there is hardly any benzodiazepine street scene/culture in this country. Even something like pyrazolam, which I am genuinely interested in for to ease the harsh cocaine withdrawal I'm planning on facing, is virtually impossible to find legally or illegally down here.

I assume the vendors you folks keep mentioning are online sources (I'm guessing tor or something similar?), but even that is virtually impossible for a Venezuelan; our currency is controlled by the government, and cannot be converted freely into foreign currency as routinely done elsewhere in the world. Rather, there is a government-dictated fixed exchange rate (6.3 VBF = 1 USD) that is entirely arbitrary and unreal (the illegal, black market rate is around 38 VBF = 1 USD), and the foreign currency assignment government entity (CADIVI) has to approve your requests for USD, with various yearly limits depending on the purpose, with a maximum of $4000/yr for travel, for example (which requires proof, such as plane tickets, reservations, etc) or $3000/yr to support relatives overseas, but there is no "dubiously legal cutting edge narcotics" allotment.

Man, these are the days when living in the third world really blows.

I'm sure that there are vendors willing to try to ship to Venezuela then it all depends on how tight your customs are. As far as the money thing, I guess you'd have to buy USD/EUR/GBP on the black market. I'm not sure how much are we allowed to talk about this, so I'll end here, sorry.

 

[Transcendence]

I don't know if my subconscious is a mess or it has something to do with the properties of the drug, but I hallucinating on medium doses of this stuff like no other benzo I've tried (a lot of them). Another weird side effect is that I can type very accurately and quickly without looking, just by thinking about it. I'm normally good at typing anyway but when I'm tired I type like a 2nd grader. Yet when I'm half passed out on this shit I fee like I could win a competition.

I love dreaming. So this is fun for me. It may be very disturbing for other people. I also occasionally freak out because I dream that I'm driving my car when I'm actually slumped down in my computer chair. Thankfully I know enough about these that I don't take them while driving.


Like diazepam, there seems to be a lot of build up due to the long half-life, lipophilic nature or whatever. Do not munch them over the course of a day and then expect to go to work normally on mon. Not nearly as long lasting as phenazepam and I don't black out at all on these, but be careful.

I really like the way they make you feel though. To me, there's a subtle but real warm euphoria that etizolam only provides through relief of anxiety. I do not find myself getting bored, depressed, and reckless on high doses of diclazepam ans I do on most other benzos. Strange.

 

[quidamsoul]

If you can 'freely indulge in diaz, alpraz" and all that other legal stuff you mentioned, why bother with pyrazolam?

I hear it's mild and good for anxiety, that's what I'm looking for. Diazepam and alprazolam get me too sedated and I wind up craving stimulants to normalize. Clonazepam tends to erase days from my mind and I end up binging on multiple stuff.

 

[Transcendence]

I hear it's mild and good for anxiety, that's what I'm looking for. Diazepam and alprazolam get me too sedated and I wind up craving stimulants to normalize. Clonazepam tends to erase days from my mind and I end up binging on multiple stuff.

What about low dose lorazepam or oxazepam?

 

[crazycatman]

I hear it's mild and good for anxiety, that's what I'm looking for. Diazepam and alprazolam get me too sedated and I wind up craving stimulants to normalize. Clonazepam tends to erase days from my mind and I end up binging on multiple stuff.

This is a post from another board that comes to the conclusion that pyrazolam may be really good for treatment of anxiety exactly because it lacks any recreational qualities.
http://www.ukchemicalresearch.org/Thread-Pyrazolam--2565?pid=61938#pid61938

 

[mydrugbuddy]

i bought 20 to try a few weeks ago, all i can remember is they had a brittle outer shell that crushed like a Smartie and the pill felt as if it was mostly hollow inside although there was some sticky substance in there. I took 4 first time, 8 the next day, I thought they were nothing special and not as nice feeling as etizolam. Wont be buying again. Trying to quit benzos anyway.

 

[Grondelduck]

Anyone know what this is soluble in? Assuming PEG would work? High proof alcohol (high as in vodka or high as 70%+ stuff)? Cooking oil? I know that water and low grade alcohol don't dissolve it.

I got my hands on 250mg of this substance, it's a bit crystallike. Would this dissolve in Propylene Glycol and would I have apply heat in order for it all to dissolve properly? Etizolam was never a problem, but that was more of a fine powder as well.

 

[kilo1105]

Recently I received 50 of the dark green Diclazepam tablets and decided to start with .5 mg along with .5 mg Pyrazolam. It gave a very nice buzz and added a small amount of euphoria to the Pyrazolam. Soon after I took another .5 mg and once that kicked in all stress and anxiety about starting class at a new college and issues at work dissolved. All and all, I can see this being fairly euphoric at doses of 1 mg and above. It seems 3 or 4 mg's could cause a blackout because it is indeed potent.

 

[crazycatman]

I got my hands on 250mg of this substance, it's a bit crystallike. Would this dissolve in Propylene Glycol and would I have apply heat in order for it all to dissolve properly? Etizolam was never a problem, but that was more of a fine powder as well.

Same reason I'm asking for the best way to dissolve it. Got some powder but since this is active in the mg range...... well I guess I'll just buy some propylene glycol and try it.

Recently I received 50 of the dark green Diclazepam tablets and decided to start with .5 mg along with .5 mg Pyrazolam. It gave a very nice buzz and added a small amount of euphoria to the Pyrazolam. Soon after I took another .5 mg and once that kicked in all stress and anxiety about starting class at a new college and issues at work dissolved. All and all, I can see this being fairly euphoric at doses of 1 mg and above. It seems 3 or 4 mg's could cause a blackout because it is indeed potent.

I'd put it at about half the strength of Etizolam but with a longer duration. If you have no tolerance 4mg could easily be too much (just like 2 mg of Etizolam would be). Add the Pyrazolam and well... there you have it. Anyway enjoy your low tolerance, don't take too often and/or too much and try and avoid mixing it with alcohol especially in large amounts (bad stuff just waiting to happen).

 

[crazycatman]

For anyone wondering it does dissolve in PEG but it takes a lot of warming and stirring/shaking. Don't yet know if the solution crashes when it cools down to room temp because my hasn't. Think I got around 37mg in 10ml PEG (was aiming for 25-30mg but oh well dropped a bit too much on the scale).

 

[Grondelduck]

For anyone wondering it does dissolve in PEG but it takes a lot of warming and stirring/shaking. Don't yet know if the solution crashes when it cools down to room temp because my hasn't. Think I got around 37mg in 10ml PEG (was aiming for 25-30mg but oh well dropped a bit too much on the scale).

I'll be monitoring this thread, let us know how it works out if you will. I'll try my hand on it this weekend as well, so any experiences from other people are most welcome!

 

[benzoman12345]

Tried Diclazepam today for the 1st time, very spacey very much like an anti psychotic, good for anxiety without a doubt, made me a feel kinda slow and wasn't very talkative but if someone spoke to me didn't bother me if that makes any sense , it doesn't compare to diazepam because although it's good for anxiety it doesn't hit that rattling spot in the stomach that a couple of valium would, and the correct name is not chlorodiazepam, that's just a name to make every benzo head buy it, conclusion, better as a bedtime benzo or for times of real stress B-) Just tried Etizolam for the 1st time as well and that hut the spot better it feels more like a real benzo than Diclazepam, reason being I feel more functionable and I'm typing away on this so I reckon that's probably better if you have to go to work and Diclazepam when u just wana chill the fuck out and forget the world , I'm still gny take another Diazepam anyway cos I reckon it will feel real nice stacked with the Etiz, Stay safe children

 

[THE_REAL_OBLIVION]

^
Temazepam comes in 7.5, 10, 20mg pills and 20mg liquid 'eggs' (these are almost unheard of now days).
Temazepam is also quite toxic in overdose and is one of the few benzos known to cause deadly seizures in WD. All good reasons why docs are reluctant to prescribe it.lol

It does ? Here in Canada and I think the USA too we have 15 and 30mg gelcaps....everytime I think of the dreamy purple and marine blue 30mg gelcaps I drool a little....that stuff was potent...it was able to put me, an insomniac since childhood into a very deep 8 hour completely refreshing sleep unlike anything else....3 of the 30mg's would make me almost trip over my girlfriend while crawling over in bed (my side of the bed is next to the wall and otherwise unreachable heh.

Nitrazepam (Mogadon) which somehow disappeared from the US's pharmacopeia for i don't know what reason is the only one that is just as good to me. A 10mg Mogadon = 4mg of xanax. The only thing I could imagine is stronger (at least for the time you feel it) is triazolam...while still available here, is very hard to get. They got rid of the 0,5mg triazolams a long time ago, leaving us with the 0.25 and 0.125mg only.

tl;dr 30mg temaz gelcaps :

 

[crazycatman]

I'll be monitoring this thread, let us know how it works out if you will. I'll try my hand on it this weekend as well, so any experiences from other people are most welcome!

Solution crashed at room temperature after a few hours, not completely but small crystals were visible. Next try is going to be 10 or 20mg diclazepam in 10ml PEG.

 

[crazycatman]

Anyone know if greipfruit juice potentiates this one?

 

[Grondelduck]

Solution crashed at room temperature after a few hours, not completely but small crystals were visible. Next try is going to be 10 or 20mg diclazepam in 10ml PEG.

Do you suppose a 1mg per ml solution could have better effects? Think I'll try that this weekend. To which temperature did you heat it?