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The Big & Dandy 6-APB Thread (Part 5)

for those that have had issues with nausea on 6-apb, has anyone found anything to alleviate this? I've been told Tums works with mdma in this way. I have tried plugging and dosing orally, same acidic stomach result
 
Just a guy re preban apbs I bought 10g 6apb but it's different from the stuff I bought a month before. This is light brown not tan and less fluffy. Smells similar but not same. Seems more speedy like 5 but with a bit of nausea I never had before. I'm cutting it in at about one third and seems ok. Wonder if anyone has more info
 
Meant to add have puked every time over 250 mg. 3 times with all eing redoses of 100 on 200 approx. never managed a trial of a straight 300mg as discussed before, just sense it will be difficult.
 
mozzer said:
Just a guy re preban apbs I bought 10g 6apb but it's different from the stuff I bought a month before. This is light brown not tan and less fluffy. Smells similar but not same. Seems more speedy like 5 but with a bit of nausea I never had before. I'm cutting it in at about one third and seems ok. Wonder if anyone has more info
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Gosh, I can't really differentiate between light brown and tan. The smell is a giveaway, isn't it? I think I've had the stuff you've got. It was a pleasant experience.
 
I have avoided smelling mine for fear it will end up in my nose; it is off white and very very fluffy.

Friend reporting good times and no tummy upset from 100mg at festival. Living vicariously through him.
 
tasha_yar said:
I have avoided smelling mine for fear it will end up in my nose; it is off white and very very fluffy.

Friend reporting good times and no tummy upset from 100mg at festival. Living vicariously through him.
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:) That's good!
 
The best ever in my opinion

I'm new here but just wanted to chime in to this thread. I guess I'm sort of a 6-apb veteran, with over a hundred experiences. My take is its the best substance I've ever tried, period. I get reliably to a state of "in the moment" euphoria and love each and every time. I don't seem to ever need to dose higher to get same effects. No urge to redose (with the booster regimen I use) and the hangover is a blissful afterglow (slight headache the second day tho) It doesn't seem to be addictive - I've been using it once a week for ever and not really tempted to do it more often. Whats not to love?

If anybody cares to hear the dose regimen I've honed over a couple years of use, here it is...
1st off, having an empty stomach makes a BIG difference in effects. My advice is not to eat anything for at least 3 hours before dosing. If you eat beforehand, it'll really reduce the effects.
- Initial dose 160-180mg powder
This is for the immersive couch potato experience. If you're going
to be doing stuff in public I wouldn't go over 100
- Take a booster of 80mg 1.5 hours after the first dose
6-apb takes 2 hours to kick in so you won't be feeling the full effects
of the first dose yet. This booster does 2 things - it extends the
effects of the first dose quite a bit, and also if you just do one big dose
by itself, there can be a sharp comedown with an urge to redose.
By taking the booster, the effects slowly taper over a longer period,
and the urge to redose is pretty much eliminated.
- (optional) a 35mg redose 1.5 hours after the first redone - This just
provides an even smoother comedown and extends (less intense) blissy
effects for a bit longer.

Like I said above the next day is usually kind of a nice afterglow feeling, but
the second day can be a little rough, with a slight headache and tiredness.
A couple of 5-htp supplements throughout the day keep it in check - avoid
caffeine though as the headache will come roaring back.
 
Once a week is...very frequent. What setting are you dosing that much in?

Just ordered a bunch of 6-APDB, which I've read is even better than 6-APB. Thoughts?
 
Just dropped a fat 200mg bomb. This is going to be a good night.

Edit: I'll be sure to write a brief trip report, hence why I posted in the first place.
 
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Ok, so the come-up didn't start till 1.5 hours after ingestion, whereas usually (with a lower dose, too) it takes 45 mins. The peak came on quite quickly, which made up for the long onset. I then peaked for about 6 hours, riding the waves which are so characteristic of 6-APB. There were slight visual distortions: morphing, and brightening of light and colour. I didn't trip as much as I usually do, probably because I'd taken 25I-NBOMe 5 days prior to this experience - thus draining my 5-HT2A receptors (responsible for tripping).

The roll was very good. I didn't have any nausea at all, whereas last time I tried 200mg I had slight nausea for about 5-10 mins (didn't vomit though). I did have diarrhoea during the come-up and the day after, but literally every single drug gives me this (usually just during the come-up). My body did get very hot, however, and has been hot for all of the following day. Taking off my clothes was sufficient to keep me cool. The weather is unusually hot right now, and normally heat isn't too much of an issue - more of a nuisance, really.

200mg really is the sweet-spot for me. 100mg was unimpressive, 125mg was comfortable but nothing amazing, 150mg was getting there but still nothing to be excited about. YMMV, of course, but I personally feel that the various dosage guides that can be found online are quite a bit low.

Also, people judge how high they are by how high they've been before. I usually don't dose any drug high enough to be considered "unsafe" - if one could say that - but I have had a few extremely intense experiences. Thus my self-analysis of how high I am is much stricter than that of someone's who hasn't dosed a drug high before. To be honest, I'd much rather be satisfied by lower doses than have to dose medium-high all the time, but my very first drug experience was almost an overdose (due to incorrectly giving trust of dosage to a friend), thus my expectations have been high from the very start.

My dosage philosophy is very simple: start at medium-high, and then increase until I feel that increasing more would give a low effects/side-effects ratio. Also, I only redose on stimulants. Drugs like 6-APB last pretty long, leaving me very satisfied and not wanting more. What's more, the come-down comes in waves, too, so it's never shocking or disappointing when it happens.
 
Once a week is...very frequent.

Well I suppose once a week might sound frequent. But I don't drink, smoke weed or even take any prescription meds right now.
One dose of 6-apb per week as the ONLY intoxicant I use - still sound like alot? :)
 

I liked reading that report David. Only thing I'd comment on is the dosage. I would bet that if your stomach was very empty (like no eating for 3 hours prior) then a 180mg dose would likely put you in the same place. Evewryone's MMV obviously, but when I did 200mg on a completely empty stomach - my heart rate got a little high.
 
I didn't eat for 7 hours prior to the experience. My heart rate was increased, although every stimulating drug increases my heart rate. It didn't reach dangerous or uncomfortable levels at any point. The only drugs that have ever made my heart rate way too high are AM-2201 and 5F-AKB-48 (both synthetic cannabinoids). All other synthnoids I have tried, I have loved.

Thanks for reading my post and I'm glad you raised concern over the dosage, because I will admit it seems pretty high compared to average. I have read people saying that their sweetspot is 250-300mg, and I personally feel that may be too much, so I sympathise if one thinks 200mg is too much.
 
atlanta said:
Well I suppose once a week might sound frequent. But I don't drink, smoke weed or even take any prescription meds right now.

One dose of 6-apb per week as the ONLY intoxicant I use - still sound like alot? :)
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It does if you subscribe to the idea that MDA/MDMA/X-APBs should be used no more frequently than once a month, which many, many people choose to. However, you would probably know if you were starting to develop a tolerance that ruined the magic and then stop - so keep doing what works for you!

Personally I found my experience at 50 mg so overwhelming that I don't even want it again. Think my next dose will be on a long weekend at the beach with absolutely nothing to do, several fully charged devices that play music, and my significant other.
 
Nope, still sounds excessive to me. It's nothing to do with other drugs or general health, the only factor is the risk of SERT damage from SRAs like 6-APB.
 
Transform said:
Nope, still sounds excessive to me. It's nothing to do with other drugs or general health, the only factor is the risk of SERT damage from SRAs like 6-APB.
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Please realize that 6-apb might very well be MUCH less damaging to the serotonin system than than MDMA. It is quite likely that MDMA neurotoxicity (or temporary damage) occurs because MDMA is metabolized by the liver to 3,4-dihydroxyamphetamine (also called alfa-methyldopamine). This is known neurotoxin. MDMA injected directly into the brain is not neurotoxic. 3,4-dihydroxyamphetamine reacts with gluthathione (as far as I can remember) to form a compound wich is toxic to cells, and causes free radicals to be formed via a series of reactions. It is also a common misconception that dopamine metabolites is responsible for MDMA neurotoxicity, dopamine increases neuroxicity as higher dopamine levels mean a higher body temperature, and the higher the body temperature, the less efficient is body's antioxidant system for protecting against free radical damage. MDMA metabolites also inhibit tryptophane hydroxylase, and thus serotonin is regenerated slower than normal.

I dont know if 6-apb forms metabolites wich inhibit TPH, but I do know the neurotoxic 3,4-dihydroxyamphetamine can't be formed from 6-apb, thus potentially making it a much less neurotoxic and safer compound (ofcourse it might have other metabolites even more toxic which are not studied), and where tolerance is less of an issue. I wouldn't be surprised if it takes much longer to lose the magic of 6-apb than that of MDMA/MDA .

I am eager to buy 6-apb and 5-apb and if the combination really is that good comparable to MDMA/MDA, I might never touch the latter two again (or maybe once a year) as they seem to be more damaging.
 
I agree that 6-APB is likely to be less neurotoxic than MDMA, but I strongly doubt it will be harmless enough to use weekly.
 
Probably not, that dose is very low and the effects would be subtle enough that you'd probably be able to sleep fine after the experience had faded.
 
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