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3,4-dichloro-methylphenidate (3,4-CTMP / 3,4-DCMP)

can you put some 2-fa on top of a small dose of this? (im thinking 5mg in the morning and then later on rather than redose just go for a 20-30mg 2fa dose) functionality is the aim here...
 
generally the combination of DRI and releasing agent is unfavourable, with increased strain on heart but diminished euphoric effects. I'd try and keep each drug separate if possible
 
hmm so are all the FAs and FMAs DRAs? thought i read this somewhere.... oh well.. ill just have to not add anything then...

what about ending the night off with a toke of hash? im not for much benzos and thought that might just work a bit.... after a loong day of computer work

well, quick report on a low dose of this chem, coming from a person without any tolerance to stims, who is quite sensitive to them, and the last psychoactive experience was some 2FA around a month ago.

~5-6mg of powder, ingested over a light lunch at 2 pm. effects start after ~1h and consist of mainly feeling energetic, but somehow different than amphetamine or 2FA/FMA, maybe closer to caffeine, in that there is energy to do things, there is increased patience to do it, but there is also some jitteriness, and i suspect there is some lack of comfort that might become apparent at higher doses. no euphoria, no increased mood or empathy, no particular increase in thought speed or diveristy.
sleep comes after 10-11 hours, with some difficulty but this might be due to the workload. towards the end, a headache occured, that might or might not be related, but was handled with ibuprofen.

overall, an ok chemical for getting some things done, in a mostly sober way.
i fear higher doses would bring little if any benefit. for now this will stay in my toolbox for work assignments
 
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I'm very weird experience this chemical. I took half a 10mg pressed pellet about 3 and a half hours ago. General stim tolerance quite low, though 2 days ago I took a 36mg concerta. I have to say this does not feel like a stimulant, I feel sleepy and it kind of feels serotonergic...? It was a light beige pellet with darker brown specks on it, scored, and almost as tall as it is wide. It's from a vendor I've bought a couple of things from before and I think is generally regarded as legitimate. I honestly feel I could fall asleep.
 
hey
If this rc comes in Base form ( not water soluable), Which is the easiest way to plug it. i have citric acid anhydrous, acetic acid 88% and could get vinegar... I just want it to get to salt. How much from which solvent do i have to pour to my base... Lets say 1g of 3,4,cmtp base powder
 
ThomasU1234 said:
hey
If this rc comes in Base form ( not water soluable), Which is the easiest way to plug it. i have citric acid anhydrous, acetic acid 88% and could get vinegar... I just want it to get to salt. How much from which solvent do i have to pour to my base... Lets say 1g of 3,4,cmtp base powder
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It works perfectly fine sublingually.

okammi said:
I'm very weird experience this chemical. I took half a 10mg pressed pellet about 3 and a half hours ago. General stim tolerance quite low, though 2 days ago I took a 36mg concerta. I have to say this does not feel like a stimulant, I feel sleepy and it kind of feels serotonergic...? It was a light beige pellet with darker brown specks on it, scored, and almost as tall as it is wide. It's from a vendor I've bought a couple of things from before and I think is generally regarded as legitimate. I honestly feel I could fall asleep.
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Oddly I have noticed this effect with it more and more now, it makes me tired and tbh slightly ill now. I really don't like the stuff atall, it feels unhealthy.
 
i've got a sample pellet of this coming in the morning forgot to ask the amount in the pellets though i take it most are around 10mg ?
 
Okami said:
. Why do you think it's horrible? I've tried mpa for getting stuff done and that was fucking useless.
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sorry if this reply is too late, only just seen your post. I took too much (25mg then 8 hours later another 25mg. 2x 10 mg would have been better) and felt quite ill during and after. Didnt/couldnt sleep, eat food or even drink water. I cant remember if i tried it again at lower doses, but my first experience with has totally put me off it.
 
That is exactly the problem I had with md pv. It's tragic. On one hand it really helped me in a way I couldn't have imagined before. On the other hand it worsened other problems of mine. Loose ends. I would say it's perfect to get things half done.
I'm very anxious to try this, though. Ethyl phenidate only made my nose burn like hell.
 
Ceres said:
Oddly I have noticed this effect with it more and more now, it makes me tired and tbh slightly ill now. I really don't like the stuff atall, it feels unhealthy.
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Glad to know I'm not the only one who got tired from it. I would have tried sleeping had I not had work to do. It really did just make me feel exhausted.
 
yeah, shitty drug noone knows anything about and best avoided unless being an exhausted nervous wreck is your idea of fun.
 
limbicsystem said:
That is exactly the problem I had with md pv. It's tragic. On one hand it really helped me in a way I couldn't have imagined before. On the other hand it worsened other problems of mine. Loose ends. I would say it's perfect to get things half done.
I'm very anxious to try this, though. Ethyl phenidate only made my nose burn like hell.
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MDPV did help me study a great deal and I must admit that but like you it also nearly completely ruined my life. Dopaminergic drugs like this are something I just don't find useful anymore.
 
Ceres said:
MDPV did help me study a great deal and I must admit that but like you it also nearly completely ruined my life. Dopaminergic drugs like this are something I just don't find useful anymore.
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same here. There was a time when I could use euphoric stimulants functionally without any problems but because compulsive dosing is self-reinforcing this became harder to do each time I took them, and the OCD and anxiety effects became more prominent.
 
absolutely agree, all of them just make me a hypervigilant borderline psychotic and there is zero fun aspect to any of it atall.
 
Myshkin said:
Have to agree. Shame.

Oh, for a reliable ritalin supply. Or a better analogue.
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modanifinil and ethylphenidate arent too bad if you get the dosage at least somewhere near right ? I havent tried ritalin itself but i believe they are all closely related......
 
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