i really dont know what you pay for a G or a jab but one patch for half that price sounds a little pricey, when i was gettin fent patches i got the 50mcg n 75mcg for dirt dirt cheap, like pack of cigs cheap. like the others said i dont really like fent that much n woulda never continued buying it if it wasnt a bargain cuz they high def sucks n is difficult to achieve depending on the type of patch. im pretty sure all the smokable ones are off the market but those you COULD enjoy but i fell out smokin some once so i stopped smokin em, wearin em is a dissapointment, n puttin em in your mouth was too
for me fent just made me tired, no real euphoria to speak of, def no opiate energy. there were times when id put a patch in my mouth n it'd make me tired n i would fall asleep only to wake up feeling like i had way too much in my system. i think in a medical setting a nice shot of a low dose of IV fent would feel good but shooting the gel isnt smart, smokin the gel is like playin with fire n anyother ROA w/ fent just kinda sucks so at 1/2 jab price i think the 1/2jab or 1/2 gram would give you more enjoyment,
but he if u get one that isnt the gel matrix you can cut that shit up n wear it on days you're just tryin to keep the sick off, takes awhile for it to get into your system at peak levels n fent skyrockets tolerance but if u buy one just to have n ever find yourself in a bad situation you can just slap that baby on n know u got 2-3 days to come up with some cash or some dope, i mean its not good for that in the way suboxone is but its better n the way of feelin ok n knowing as soon as u cop u can just do a tiny amount on top n prob get rocked
Fent. is usually, as most of you know, used in last stage cancer. And lots of ppl drop dead after using dope cut w/ fent. The saddest use of fent are the lollypops laced with fent. that are givien out by oncological nurses to children with some form of cancer--usually some form of brain cancer such as the Blastoma forms.
It's really very sad. Anyone who can cop fent. patches is buying from the lowest scum on the earth. Pll who have connects with hospitals and just outright steal the stuff. And the next day, some poor soul is in excrutiating misery until some new fent. patches can be ordered/delivered. Most of these people who steal this stuff are nurses. Used to be Maintance people but now all hoptials are in such lock-down its impossible to get at the stuff unless you are authorized.
There are some exceptions where paitents themselves sell them as they are given too many and want money.
A pox on those dealers. Of ccourse as a coustomer, sometimes none of us have a choice, due to being in WDs.
Actually dope use is a disease. We all are diseased here. America has done very little to recognize that addicts are sick. I've never, in all of my life, met one doper who was really a well person. Either physically or mentally or both.
You must remeber that Heroin, as distributed By Bayer Pharmacuticles, was used until 1951 and legal for the treatment of depression until it was "discovered" that it was additive.
Ever try getting off an SSRI?
What's up people. Seriously considering checking into a detox and then hitting up a rehab.. I'm so over this life but I remember how brutal my last inpatient detox was and it's scaring the shit out of me. I want so bad to just be clean off of everything. No dope, no suboxone, no nothing. But I don't know if I can make it through the weeks of hell, plus leaving my girlfriend, my life, my music, my art.
Any advice?
Yup, I have some advice as we were once in the same position. I have no advice, thats my advice.
But I do have some thoughts. Your going to lose everything you hold dear and mention in your thread if you don't figure out a way to do something. That's obvious.
Whats not obvious, at least to me, is why you feel you will lose what you mention if you do what you say you eant to do which is clean up. Most ppl lose waht you fear of losing by waht you want to do, not by doing it--meaning cleaning up.
I'll be more specific--you won't lose anything other than the girl if you clean up. And if cleaning up means losing the girl, she's the wrong girl. If you want to keep everything else.
Just some thoughts. Take them as you will.
Yeah it's bull shit. After years on and off suboxone, having seen many doctors and how they acted, I'm convinced it's just another fucking money making scheme developed to keep addicts "controlled" or "maintained" as they like to say, with the chances of actually weening off and getting off it for good slim to none. They know it's a never ending cycle of maintenance drugs, using, maint drugs, using, and on and on. Meanwhile, they all get rich while we suffer like dogs.
Right. I can tell you empirically that subutex was specifically designed as a mind control drug. It is used in Europe as a pain med. at the mcg. level. That's all well and good. But when these docs put you on some rediculous dose like 12-24 mgs for even a 5 bun-like habit, its complete over kill.
I've seen ppl beat subs and 'done.
I'm one of them. Fortunately I was able to tell the Doc exactly the dosage I needed.
Some ppl do what is sometimes reffered to as a reverse-detox. Takes great self-dicisiplin. I don't know how many mgs of sub you're on but it can ussually be cut considerably due to the ceiling effect. Sub really dosen't t really work much above 8mgs, and contrary to what many docs will tell you. And the alternative to the horrors of 'done standing in line nonsence in the States is particulary apealing and why it was designed to be an out-patient drug.
Oh yes, you are an out-patient. Way out.