• 🇬🇧󠁿 🇸🇪 🇿🇦 🇮🇪 🇬🇭 🇩🇪 🇪🇺
    European & African
    Drug Discussion

    Welcome Guest!
    Posting Rules Bluelight Rules
  • EADD Moderators: axe battler | Pissed_and_messed

Why are drugs illegal?

One Thousand Words said:
I like it here, and until customs are set up and EADD becomes a closed forum of back scratches and hair holders I think I and well withn my right to have an opinion on a hypothetical question. Heaven forbid we have to all agree to be the same.
Click to expand...

Indeed. Disagree with what you say but fight to the death blahdeblah. Tis true though. You're just wrong is all ;)

I think it's the sweeping statements and black and white thinking that's irking folk. Saying that drugs are illegal cos of "crazy people" is just plain ignorant. I can see what you mean but it's been horribly worded mostly and is bound to get a few people's backs up really. Reality is far more complex than that. A good example possibly being your bringing up of the number of staff who stopped being staff essentially cos they're "crazy" or "can't handle their drugs". I have no idea how much truth is in that but I suspect little more than superficially. Can only speak for myself and is no secret that I got a tad too fond of me beloved peev, took lengthy absences cos I was too wasted to form sentences and ended up going a bit doolally. So yup, I fulfil both stereotypes. Was there more to it? Maybe. Maybe not. I don't feel the need to explain myself and am all better now anyway. But I'd imagine there's more or less always more going on than simple looniness and drugpiggery. As ever, symptoms not causes. As a general rule.

Public displays of drug-induced nuttiness ain't great publicity necessarily... but can equally be argued that the fact drugs are illegal encourages badly-informed decisions due to lack of information, encourages drug use in general cos illegal stuff is far kewler than legal stuff to a certain mindset and whilst drugs are illegal associated problems are much harder to deal with properly cos of the legal consequences. Legalise all drugs, use the huge savings in tax money to massively increase education and treatment. Leave it for a generation or two to settle and it stops being a problem and is just another aspect of life as it should be.
 
Tell me more about all that English restraint that was shown during the brief legal status of mephadrone and mushrooms a few years ago shambles ;) you actually had the chance to show the rest of the western world how well the average drug user could handle legalisation and you blew it. Thanks a fucking lot :|
 
a lot of people have jobs because drugs are illegal

the leaders of the world would rather have the pharmaceutical companies make billions and give them a solid cut then hope a bunch of druggies pay their taxes.

but if you want to dip into the illicit stuff they have pharms to help you recover from that too

it's a big circle, and if you believe the conspiracies the DEA (or whatever acronym you want to throw out there) is a part of every single step, from Afghanistan to the block

imo

also I feel you OTW, my bro used just as many drugs as me (probably less tbh, not trying to dicksize here just my observation) and he can barely dress himself in the morning. Been going through withdrawal from like a 120mg a week oxy habit for about two weeks now, never has any money, and until I showed him about two weeks ago never even logged into his bank account online. Mom took care of all of it

I get the tough approach, because some people are just complete shells of themselves and either won't or can't admit it out of pride or anger or whatever, so you have to push them a little.

But it's a lot better to just slowly start dropping hints at how they are just being complete wastes if life, and hopefully they realize shit on their own
 
One Thousand Words said:
Tell me more about all that English restraint that was shown during the brief legal status of mephadrone and mushrooms a few years ago shambles ;) you actually had the chance to show the rest of the western world how well the average drug user could handle legalisation and you blew it. Thanks a fucking lot :|
Click to expand...

Ha! I see what you did there =D

And I agree. Was a fine display of the national character - we iz hardcore %)

But that aside, the brainded massed got "proper" drugs free and legal overnight so went nutso on 'em. I'd expect nothing else. You'll notice I added a caveat of it taking a generation or two to settle down. The meph situation is a fine example of why. Kids inna sweetshop. But the excess fades when the rot sets in. Natural balance is found. Whatever that natural balance ends up being is what it is and is better then prohibition no matter what. People learn what's good for 'em sooner or later. Evolve or die.

Pee Ess: Am talking about meph. Mushies never caused a problem.
 
One Thousand Words said:
I only believe in euthanasia for the terminally ill, not the mentally ill Marmalade.
Click to expand...

What if you were to say "I only believe in abortion if the mother's life is at threat, the mentally ill should not be able to access abortion."

Sorry, but mental illness, so I believe, is just as bad as terminal illnesses. Sure, it can be treated, but what if it can't. Then what? Force them to suffer?

Strangely enough, most people I know who have no problem with abortion, then want to force their morality on the mentally ill.
 
Asking why drugs are illegal is like asking why abortion is legal.

Simple - the government doesn't give a fuck about the most basic of human rights UNLESS IT SUITS THEM AND THEIR AGENDA.
 
Flynnal said:
Asking why drugs are illegal is like asking why abortion is legal.

Simple - the government doesn't give a fuck about the most basic of human rights UNLESS IT SUITS THEM AND THEIR AGENDA.
Click to expand...

Some of what you said is right but this abortion thing is total rubbish.

Not to take this topic off course but I have to ask this question & it is a bit grim though.
So Flynnal say your mother, sister, wife got raped & ended up having a baby from said sexual attack, you think it is right in a moral way thay your mother, sister, wife should have the baby?.......

That comment about abortion is the most dumb thing I have ever seen on the whole of Bluelight & yes it is even worse than the "Amerikanz" that post in the MDMA section & even dare I say it the stuff in The Lounge.
 
thats funny because I dont hear almost any talk about DF on bluelight

because it is pretty lame imo

and Im not even a biased person

it's just not as interesting

and that is the oldest druggie excuse in the book, blame the people in charge for your problems.
 
shimazu said:
thats funny because I dont hear almost any talk about DF on bluelight
Click to expand...

You wont "dont hear almost any talk about DF on bluelight" because it is a forum.
100% text, not actual vocalisation of opinions, that's best saved for the Pub on a Friday.
 
yeah well if you suck at voicing your opinion I could see why that would be ideal for you.

nice edit backtracker
 
shimazu said:
yeah well if you suck at voicing your opinion I could see why that would be ideal for you.

nice edit backtracker
Click to expand...

A post on a board is allowed to be edited as the poster or Admin thinks fit, hence why the Edit button is there my freind.
I am allowed to add or remove as I see fit; but my general point still stands as to what I was getting at.

Plus I added a far more comical Youtube video, I can only imagine what "One Thousand Words" would be doing to that video after some PV or after a few lungs full of "smoking Diamonds"
 
you didnt make any points about why drugs might possibly be illegal you just jumped on the abortion derail, tried to insult OTW (and me without knowing it, im an Uhmurican who uses mdma) failed quite horribly at both, then at the very end you say

"my point still stands"

what point?
 
shimazu said:
you didnt make any points about why drugs might possibly be illegal you just jumped on the abortion derail, tried to insult OTW (and me without knowing it, im an Uhmurican who uses mdma) failed quite horribly at both, then at the very end you say

"my point still stands"

what point?
Click to expand...

Typical "Amerikan" ;)

Never tried to insult anybody if the truth be told.

Ok Sir, Drugs are illegal for a simple reason.
Began with racism & the main thing in my view which led to the state we are in today was a small act from the USA (the Irony kills me) called the Harrison Marijuana tax reform act based at Mexican workers.

Illegal drugs make to much money for people, it's that simple.
 
Skeng8978 said:
Never noticed you were a Mod for the Lounge "1,000 wordz"

No wonder you have a Stormtrooper as an avatar, carrying out the work of the evil empire on the forum ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfXHpccPcdQ
Click to expand...
images


Do_your_part_to_Serve.jpg
 
typical Euro comment, talk shit until you get confronted about it then change your mind
 
shimazu said:
typical Euro comment, talk shit until you get confronted about it then change your mind
Click to expand...

Euro?
Your point is lost on me, why assume I am in the E.U. let alone the E.E.A. is beyond me.

"Begin challenging your assumptions. Your assumptions are the windows on the world. Scrub them off every once in awhile or the light won't come in"
Alan Alda

At what point have I deicded to change my mind? - No point at all that's where.

Edit

Drugs are illegal for a simple reason due to a basic level of racism against Mexican & Chinese workers coming into the USA there were laws passed to make Marijuana & Opium illegal & as the USA run's the world their laws were pressed onto other countrys.

Before I go & fetch my copy of "The Pursuit of Oblivion: A Global History of Narcotics" I suggest you do a quick Google search on such subjects as.......

1) Marihuana Tax Act of 1937 (Based in the USA)
2) Rolleston Act in Britain in 1926
3) All the Pharmacy reform acts of the UK
4) 1912 Hague Conventions
5) 1965 Drug Abuse Control Amendments by the FDA
6) Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act of 1970
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top