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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread-10th Dose-Addiction? But I'm only on it 24/7...

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Just received 200mg from a friend. What's funny is this same 200mg he gave me, is the same 200mg I gave him about 3 months ago. He had it in a capsule in his drawer, or probably under his bed. I haven't had a chance to look at it in the light but it appears to have turned a more slightly off-white color, as well as forming very slight chunks in the powder itself.

I don't know when I'll take this. I've been clean from this stuff for exactly one month now. I'm starting to feel a little better, but to be honest I'm not sure what I should be looking for in signs of improvement from ending my usage. I'm sure my tolerance has slightly gone down. This is the longest I've gone without taking it since I started using it in March. I'll probably end up saving this for a special occasion, however I think I'll treat myself to upwards of 75mg tomorrow night when I'm home alone and can relax in my living room and watch movies and smoke a ton of weed. I just picked up a quarter ounce so I'm set for the week. I'm totally prepared for this Hurricane Sandy.
 
How fast does MXE tollerance build up ? Been doing it every (2) weeiks or so 2 months ago. Stopped for a while, then used again on monday. I found it much more disconnecting this time.

So the question is, I used about 30mg last monday, will I be able to experience the same again today ? Cause I found MXE and Ketamine (MXE more so) to have less dissociating effects, even after waiting 10 days before using again.
 
Delsyd said:
I have used MXE from around the time that it came out and my love for it has only grown.
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Same here :) I'd also say that with every experience i love and cherish it just a bit more, which is surely because i know what is awaiting me in the depths of the void and what is the reward for making this journey. That said, MXE-experiences were always experiences of both, utterly breathtaking bliss and brutally honest sorrow, like life itself is, and it is really a special compound that deserves it's places among the well-known substances.
 
Tolerance

I have been using MXE on/off for around the last 18 months. When I have it I use multiple times daily; one small dose before work then larger doses in the evening. Whenever I run out I wait a few days before ordering more, so I usually have around a two weeks break between using. I only order 3g at a time.

Most recently I was using around 300mg/day for two weeks. I have been on a tolerance break for three weeks now, how close to zero is my tolerance? Is there a general rule for how long tolerance takes to go down?

I realize that there are a lot of posts on here saying to use MXE only once every 2-3 weeks, but personally I am unable to to this. I also feel that most of the time I use MXE pretty responsibly, although there have been a few isolated incidents where I have taken too much and had a bad experience; caused by thinking "take more it will make everything better". But then ending up taking far too much and forgetting that I have taken any drugs, just being really confused.
 
Delsyd said:
To me it is like the LSD of dissociatives, if that makes sense.
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It makes perfect sense, actually! And makes me wish I hadn't flushed what remained of my stash.

Of the dissociatives I have tried - 3-MeO-PCP, 3-MeO-PCPr, 3-MeO-PCPy, 3-MeO-PCE, Ketamine, and MXE - MXE is indeed the LSD.
 
Mokeweaver said:
Most recently I was using around 300mg/day for two weeks. I have been on a tolerance break for three weeks now, how close to zero is my tolerance? Is there a general rule for how long tolerance takes to go down?
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300mg a day sounds like a high dose to me, so you have built big tolerance by now, 3 weeks will maybe reduce your tolerance by 50% at best, maybe by 25%, nowhere near zero.
 
Hello,

I will have the opportunity to try the "Methoxetamine". I'm kind of exicted but nervous at the same time. I don't know how Methoxetamine is like nor I never tried Ketamine too.

Latest drugs I've tried were 4-Ho-MET and 2C-E (The 2C-E was clearly amazing!). I heard that is a dissociative a la DXM. The main concern is that I've tried DXM 2 times and I really didn't like it. First time with it was kind of great (Light visuals on the walls and it was hard to stay straight up). Second time was horrible, dosed on the low spectrum too and I had a very terrible hypertension on it, heart pounding extremely fast and felt very sick. I could ended myself...

So I know this thread could be annoying but I have some questions that I want to ask.

It would be so nice of you to help me! I will post my questions with alphanumeric.

1 - Can someone describe me the high from Methoxetamine ?
2 - What is the best ROA for this stuff ? (Snorted, Sublingual, Oral... ?)
3 - I never snorted a drug so... does it hurt the nose ? What's the feeling when you snort ? I don't want to be overwhelmed for my first time
4 - Could you explain me how is the come-up, the peak and the comedown of this drug ?
5 - What are the physical, mental and visuals effects ?
6 - What kind of side-effects should I worry for ?
7 - Is there any life-threatning effects that I should be aware ?
8 - Is there any euphoria or feeling of calmness with Methoxetamine ?
9 - I'm prescribed Alprazolam 2mg - 3 times a day - since I'm young. I got some anxiety disorders including paranoïa, panic attacks and restlesness. Is there any trouble combining the Alprazolam with Methoxetamine ?
10 - I'm a very thin girl, I'm like 40 - 45 kilograms at max so I can be very sensitive. What do you think is the best dose for my weight ? Also, I heard about the CNS effect of this drug. Is my weight too low for this drug ? Should I be in case of having a CNS depression ? (Like Methoxetamine will be too strong for my weight).
11 - What great effects could I have ?
12 - I also read that it's nearly impossible to have a bad trip on this stuff and that Methoxetamine have anti-anxiety properties at low dose ? Is this actually true ?

I read all the erowid stuff about Methoxetamine but anyway I prefer to ask to people here for experience and advices.

Much regards
 
3-MeO-PCE is also very interesting stuff to do some research on, because it can give you also the possibilty to gain some precious insights and highly complexed thoughts, while leaving you in a different way, more "sober" or clear-headed. This is of course dose depended. With the right dose MXE can give you this feeling of uber-sobriety sometimes too, but is often too chaotic in a positive way. I haven't done much trials with 3-MeO-PCE since now, but it seemed to be a worthwile substance with many positive aspects, but regarding the fact how much people tend to abuse MXE, it's better that this one isn't so easily available.
 
Mokeweaver said:
I also feel that most of the time I use MXE pretty responsibly, although there have been a few isolated incidents where I have taken too much and had a bad experience; caused by thinking "take more it will make everything better". But then ending up taking far too much and forgetting that I have taken any drugs, just being really confused.
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Classic story i'm sure every MXE user can relate to.
 
Kishka best roa is oral. I was hard headed about it at first and insisted on snorting it but oral is better... just make sure you actually get it down instead of it sitting in your mouth and subsequently basically being sublingual. Im tired and going to bed thoigh so someone else is gonna have to answer your other hundred questions

Btw you swiss girls are hot, damn

Sorry back to the topic at hand
 
I feel like I never know what's going to happen after I take mxe. I almost convince myself I forget what it's like.

Plugging is the best roa btw..
 
6apbhmm said:
300mg a day sounds like a high dose to me, so you have built big tolerance by now, 3 weeks will maybe reduce your tolerance by 50% at best, maybe by 25%, nowhere near zero.
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I am hoping that my tolerance has been reduced by at least the 50% mark. It's should be around another week before I get my next shipment so there is still more time for it to go down. I am going to try to use max 200mg/day, and hopefully around 150mg/day. Going to be hard though because this time I'm getting 15 grams.
 
Mokeweaver said:
isolated incidents where I have taken too much and had a bad experience; caused by thinking "take more it will make everything better". But then ending up taking far too much and forgetting that I have taken any drugs, just being really confused.
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yeah ive done that. infact ive taken so much before i felt like id died over and over, completely lost myself, apparently i was face first on the floor making weird fucked up noises for hours. must have fallen asleep or blacked out, woke up many hours later still wonky. surprised i didnt end up in hospital. never mix this stuff with loads of booze and stims

also taken so much it felt like a balls deep DMT trip, was amazing but odd. then id snap out of it into a fabricated alternate reality, like a lucid dream, then snap out of that into something else, then something else, then i realized i was trying to put my head in the washing machine to "cure myself" from the twisted-ness

used sensibly though and this stuff is beautiful and magicall... i get an amazing afterglow which lasts for days. havent touched it for awhile though it was making me a bit manic
 
1 - Can someone describe me the high from Methoxetamine ?
This is a hard question to answer as it really depends on the dose. When I was quite new to the drug I took 40mg; the only way I can explain the high is that I felt the MXE had "healed me". I felt free from all the anxiety and worry I had been carrying around with me, it really felt as though a massive weight had been lifted off my shoulders. I felt like MXE was the perfect drug for me and it was nothing short of a miracle that I had found it. I was instantly in love. At 40mg walking down the road I felt as if I could have stopped cars with my bare hands (of course even though this is how I felt I would never try it!)

2 - What is the best ROA for this stuff ? (Snorted, Sublingual, Oral... ?)
Apparently the "best" ROA for MXE is plugged/rectal. I have only ever snorted it and placed it under my tongue. Although sub-lingual is no doubt very effective, 95% of the time I sniff it. This is just my personal preference.

3 - I never snorted a drug so... does it hurt the nose ? What's the feeling when you snort ? I don't want to be overwhelmed for my first time
MXE does not hurt at all! At worst, it will be slightly uncomfortable. The feeling when you snort?.. people will disagree with me here I'm sure... but to me, snorting MXE is like snorting a cloud - a cloud of pure joy, wonder and amazement!! You will not be overwhelmed I can assure you this. Start by snorting 20mg in each nostril (after doing a 5mg allergy test first of course!)

4 - Could you explain me how is the come-up, the peak and the comedown of this drug ?
When I first started using MXE, I would only ever use it after work. Now my use has changed completely:\ but that's beside the point. After snorting 40-60mg I would always straight away have a shower. After just 5 mins I could definitely start to feel the effects. I would start to feel light/floaty -- and I know this is a cliche, but everything would just feel "right". I would start to see colors a little differently and the water on my body would feel amazing. If the washing machine was running, the sound would be amazing dubstep that I would listen to intently.

Skipping questions 5-7. -- Maybe someone else can have a go at answering?

8 - Is there any euphoria or feeling of calmness with Methoxetamine ?
YES! Amazing euphoria and calmness, both at the same time!


9 - I'm prescribed Alprazolam 2mg - 3 times a day - since I'm young. I got some anxiety disorders including paranoïa, panic attacks and restlesness. Is there any trouble combining the Alprazolam with Methoxetamine ?
My belief is that MXE and and your 2mg Alprazolam should be fine to take together, can anyone second this? Although I have never been formally diagnosed with anything, I think that I have some anxiety disorders myself and I feel that MXE has helped me a lot with these, however now I am slightly dependent on it! With regard to your paranoia I think that the key there is to start with low dose MXE to see how you react, I think 40mg would be a good starting point. From my own personal experience MXE has sometimes made my paranoia worse. Worse to the point where I have convinced myself my flatmates are trying to "put ideas into my head". 2-3 days of being off MXE and I was able to see different. The truth is that my flatmates have some very strange beliefs that they were telling me about when I was on MXE. These beliefs were so strange that I thought that they were trying to make me go crazy... in reality they were just sharing their ideas with me (which happened to be really odd).


10 - I'm a very thin girl, I'm like 40 - 45 kilograms at max so I can be very sensitive. What do you think is the best dose for my weight ? Also, I heard about the CNS effect of this drug. Is my weight too low for this drug ? Should I be in case of having a CNS depression ? (Like Methoxetamine will be too strong for my weight).
Hmm... I only just saw this question now. Scrap what I put before... start with a 20mg dose then increase by 10mg every 10mins, until you reach 40-60mg. This is leaning on the side of safety. I think there is little risk of CNS depression with MXE taken alone, although the risk might be increased with your Alprazolam. Start your dose low and work your way up.

11 - What great effects could I have ?
The ability to stop time...

It's really hard to say, try it for yourself.


12 - I also read that it's nearly impossible to have a bad trip on this stuff and that Methoxetamine have anti-anxiety properties at low dose ? Is this actually true ?
You can definitely have a bad trip on MXE, but in my experience this is when I have used it irresponsibly / taken to much. A couple of weeks ago I was a bit messed up and took about 200mg. I forgot I had taken any drugs and was not in a good way. I was mainly confused and not sure what was going on, walking around the house in a daze. Not really a "bad trip" but a waste of a drug and not at all a good experience.

At low dose MXE most definitely has anti-anxiety properties. It is for this reason I have made the habbit of taking 30mg before work (I have tolerance however.) When I first started using I would't even think of taking 10mg before work!


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Question to those who have reached 200mg+ doses at once, overdoses basically. What were the visuals like for you?

I've had some extremely profound visualizations on this substance. Most notably my vision of reality becoming almost 2 dimensional cubes, infinite colors, spiraling around into a center point where everything was being crushed down and down into infinite density. Red, blue, yellow, green, cubes. Boxes of all sizes, in a perfectly even and symmetric spiral, crushing and intensifying as it spirals inward to the center where my vision rests. Has anybody noticed such a vision? It was extremely, incredibly profound and resulted in one of those "This vision IS everything" type realizations that only occurs on high doses of psychedelics.
 
For me this state of being totally confused is more or less normal with higher doses, but it's just a small step in the wide range of MXE's effects. Last time i did it, i almost didn't felt the come-up at all (probably because i've taken a low dose of DPT earlier). I felt it creeping up on me and before i knew what's going on i was trapped in this well-known crazy and lovely headspace, where everything from your daily life, every little thought and every bit of emotion, is running trough your mind like a whirlwind, facing you with all the sad and happy things you're experiencing in your sober life, just before you're about the enter the next step, the next plateau. This is mostly when i'm remembering what's going on, not that i really forgot about even taking a drug in the first place, but you're more capable of implementing yourself, your dissociated self.

I think MXE experiences are always like that. Entering one phase after another, so i can't really say if it's even possible having a bad trip at all, because it's always a mix of both, being happy and sad, being confronted with good and bad things, and that's one of the things which's making MXE so precious, along with the possibility of thinking about yourself and your life while being dissociated, when you're more capable of being objective, rather than being subjective.

It's really weird, but can be so rewarding, if you're well prepared.
 
J.Wallace said:
Question to those who have reached 200mg+ doses at once, overdoses basically. What were the visuals like for you?

I've had some extremely profound visualizations on this substance. Most notably my vision of reality becoming almost 2 dimensional cubes, infinite colors, spiraling around into a center point where everything was being crushed down and down into infinite density. Red, blue, yellow, green, cubes. Boxes of all sizes, in a perfectly even and symmetric spiral, crushing and intensifying as it spirals inward to the center where my vision rests. Has anybody noticed such a vision? It was extremely, incredibly profound and resulted in one of those "This vision IS everything" type realizations that only occurs on high doses of psychedelics.
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I've never had anything like that before, but I have definitely had some sort of visuals. This one time when I had taken around 250mg at once I was lying in bed and I saw an floating object appear on the other side of the room just below the ceiling. I saw some kind of "alien" emerge from the object and I attempted to ask it questions (with my mind, I couldn't speak at this time) such as "can you heal me?" and "where are you from?" but I got no answers. It was after this I was convinced that some kind of "event" was taking place as I could hear a lot of noise coming from outside, I really thought something intense was going on. Anyway I started walking around the house saying "what's going on?" and waking up my flatmates telling them "the aliens are here".

I really was not in control of the situation at all, and in future I am going to be much more careful with how much I dose, and if I am going to dose this high again, make sure I have an empty house!
 
Mokeweaver -> I don't know which MXE you got, but if I were to take 20-40-60mg for the first time, as you suggest to Kisha, I'd have a very offputting trip.

Kisha -> Just take 10mg orally. I find the oral effects more "whole" than nasally/sublngually.
If you like the feeling after 60minutes, take 10mg more.
Again, if you're enjoying yourself after 60mins (120mins from original dose), take another 10mg.

I would stop here, if it were your first encounter with the drug.
You can enjoy the different stages without being overwhelmed. Also, you might wanna dos again after the last 10mg. Don't do it the first time. Let the drug run its course.
After 5 hours the peak will start to wear off, but only very slowly. I would suggest coming down fully and have a good night's sleep. The comedown might take another 5hours (if you did redose twice)

After that, you'll feel more confident how much/when to take it.

Different strokes for different folks, as someone else said, but this is my personal experience.

edit: not that these drugs can be really compared, but to give you an idea, my favorite 4HOMET dose is 15 - 50mg and my fav 2C-E dose is +/-25mg.
I'd really be hesitant taking 40mg of MXE my first time. You can always take more later ;)
 
This is a fascinating drug, I think it will be the LSD of our times. I wonder how dangerous regular consumption will turn out to be. It seems to create connections, I call the m-hole the ´nexus´.
 
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