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Where do I go to find girls/woman to be friends or even more?

methyldreams

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I'm 29 not ugly but I'm unemployed don't have a car and live with my parents. Are there any girls out there that would start seeing someone like me?

How do I build up the courage to actually ask her if she would like to do something. I always seem to get the idea of what I should have said 10 minutes later.

I have not had a G/F for more then 2 months since high school. I just want to know what's the best conversation starters and ways to keep the conversation going.

I'm sure girls are flirting with me all the time when I go to the shop's. Yeah don't know if they are or it's just they way they are.

I would love for some girls to tell me how they try and give signals to a stupid guy like me and if they say anything in particular.
 
If I were you, I'd work on getting a job first. That way, A) you'll make a little bit of money to go out places to meet girls, B) you might meet a girl at the job itself, C) when you do meet a girl, you'll have money to go places with her, D) you can save some money towards your own place and a car.

That being said, a job wouldn't be a prerequisite for me to be interested in a guy. My level of interest would depend on his personality and his level of interest in me. Don't get me wrong, I notice lots of guys and think they're hot, etc., but they don't cross my mind unless they give me some inkling of digging me. I like to avoid headaches. But then again, I'm very much logical/analytical, so it's easy for me to do. Not everyone can detach like that. Anyways, a guy living with his parents isn't necessarily a deal-breaker as long as he helps his parents around the house. If he cleans up after himself, does yard work, etc., it's cool. He has to be making a real effort to either get a job, be going to school, or be waiting for military deployment.

If you want to build the courage to ask her out, take it slow. Start out by just shooting the shit with her. As your interactions progress, courage will naturally come as you realize she likes your company (hopefully). I've said it before and I'll say it again: Humor goes a long way.

The best conversation starters, imo, are environmental. No, not the tree-hugging hippie type, but your surroundings. Like if you're at a party, comment on the music playing, or the pool someone got pushed into, then segue from there into things about yourself. Ideally, this exchange will be mutual in order to learn about her and ask her more about herself. People naturally like to talk about themselves, so this will flatter her. Compliment her taste in music, an article of clothing, etc., but only if it's sincere.

Just as important as knowing how to start a conversation is knowing when it's dead in the water. If the conversation comes to a dead end, gracefully excuse yourself and go talk to other girls. It's okay for a conversation to end, it's best not to try to force it.

As for signals we give when we're interested in someone, I can't speak for all women, but I smile at guys when we're talking. When I'm not interested, I look at the ground and give one word answers. In other words, if she's interested in what you have to say, she's interested in you, at least at the friend level. Pretty much as long as you're not a creep (stare at her tits), you've made a new friend and maybe more.

Sorry for the wall of text. Hope I helped. Good luck!
 
^ well said!

I'd have to agrEe w/ just about everything tude said.
As I could probably date a guy w/o a job and living @ home, depending on the situation(I'm in a LTR). I couldn't date some1 who is constantly unemployed, I'm to poor myself to support any1 else.
It would be hard to date some1 w/o anything though, esp. @ 29 ( I'm about 2b)

That being said, there are girls out there that would date you..

Getting the courage to ask them out, well I'm not the person to ask.. I'm incredibly shy myself and haven't ever asked any1 out b4.. Just try and strike up a casual convo w/ her. A lot of smiles and interaction, and I'd say she's probably interested, or if she's checking you out. I'd say that's a good way too.

Anyways good luck man.
 
Try hitting up the gym.

You will feel better about yourself, have more person-person interactions and also be flooded with endorphin. Some kind of group class could be a nice way to meet someone, I am actually going to start taking up Judo because I like a girl that can knock me about a bit :sus:
 
Oh dear. I suppose there is someone out there, but these are all red flags for any respectable girl. 29, lives at home, no job or car, and has never had a gf for more than 2 months and that was high school? I would be asking you a hell of a lot of questions on our first date like "What is wrong with you?"
 
I would recommend getting your life in order before you try to get a girlfriend - maybe try moving out, getting a job etc. This will not only make women much more likely to be interested in you, but it'll also give you more self-confidence, which will help as well. Also if you get a job that could be a place to meet people.
As for reading signals, I've personally become quite cynical about that. I hate ambiguity so recently when I thought there might be something I just plain asked, ha. Didn't end as I'd've hoped so it was a bit stupid but anyway. It's usually fairly obvious if a woman is interested in you.
 
I posted this twice last night idk why it's not here.
Thanks for the positive feedback lol from what tude has said I should be ok. See I'm doing things to help me qualify for more jobs at the moment. I would love to move back out again but no body will give there house to a single non working male.
Flippin top I used to play soccer but ever since then been very lazy with exercise but I'm not fat the last 2 years have been working in the scaffholding industry.
Lysis I said I have not had a longer relationship for more then 2 months since I left school. I used to always have a G/F in school.
Pagey I was hoping to get some feed back on conversation starters I know someone said about your surroundings but what am I meant to say in the supermarket? for a example
 
Just add I don't look 29. I know it's not right but I have said I'm 18 when I was 25 to girls to pick up at the pub and clubs and I have younger friends in there early 20's and when someone knew come's around we ask them how old they think I am and the average range is 19-23 years old.
I know makes absolutely no difference for what I have asked. and I'm no creep I get lot's of smiles of how to put it half smiles from girls.
It's just I'v lost or forgotten how to approach them.
 
Conversation starters at a supermarket? That's easy! Ask her what's on sale, what she thinks of a certain brand (you're trying to decide between two), you're trying to make dinner but don't know what, how expensive it's gotten to buy groceries, paper or plastic, tabloid magazine headlines at the register, etc. Anything really.
 
See it's so obvious but I'd never think of that. Thank you

Might start making a effort to slowly build up my courage again by talking to a girl when ever I go out even if it's just saying hi to one I walk pass to on the street. Don't worry I wont start stalking them I do recognise the right times when to talk or smile to girls its just a matter of getting my brain to work.
 
See it's so obvious but I'd never think of that. Thank you

Might start making a effort to slowly build up my courage again by talking to a girl when ever I go out even if it's just saying hi to one I walk pass to on the street. Don't worry I wont start stalking them I do recognise the right times when to talk or smile to girls its just a matter of getting my brain to work.

You're welcome! You're on the right track-start out by just smiling/saying "Hi" to girls on the street. You'll get the hang of it from there.
 
When I was younger I had no trouble talking to girls I didn't know. That's before I started smoking pot very heavily once I finished school. I have pretty much given up the pot now. I still have the occasional smoke but that's it.
Hardly ever do any other drugs any more so watch out world here I come.
Thanks for your help Tude ;)
 
update and advice needed please, i will also post this as a new thread "How many chances should I give? In the past she has broken almost always..."
details: I meet this girl 2 years ago playing a online game, I feel in love with her fast we almost talked 24/7 for the 1st few months and spent most of our waking hours on skype together and even slept together on skype. Currently still talk everyday...
before I go into more detail yes I have seen catfish! I like to think I'm a good judge of bullshit from people, anyway I'm no expert in relationships and do tend to believe what people say before disbelieving. I'll try and just state the most important details of this 2 year long LDR, otherwise I will be writing a book..

about myself
2yrs ago Dec. I was just finishing detoxing myself from suboxone (bupe) I played a online horse racing game, I helped the developers run and organize certain parts of the game.. forums, tournament organization, Facebook groups etc... I was unemployed and was only smoking weed every other week, I was recovering control over my life again which I had lost since 2008/09 when I experimented and become addicted to opiates.
about Arusha
2yrs ago Dec. Lived with parents was 25yo and was a virgin, she told me that she wanted 1 day to be able to say her kids the only person she had sex with was there dad (now me just reading that now raises red flags, who talks with there parents about the 1st time they had sex?) anyway Arusha told me about her life and without going into to much detail I felt sorry for her. She worked as Vet assistant and was wealthy. She was shy and found it hard to show herself to me, her reasoning being that her Ex bashed her and mentally screwed her, she is very immature for her age I still kinda think she hasn't told me truthfully why her memory is so bad and why
She told me that her and a friend where planning on coming to Australia the following Aug, which is the only reason I started in this LDR, she seemed to be the girl I had been waiting for my entire life, she was straight and hated drugs. I thought I needed a girl like that to get5 me back on the straight and narrow.

I swore to her to never take drugs again.. I tried very hard to quit totally with drugs, in the 1st few months I would occasionally smoke weed after we talked and before I had fallen asleep, this girl knew straight away that I was different after smoking weed a number of times before I swore not to smoke no more.

-She never come out to Australia. Reason her friend called her a slut for sending me pictures of her naked and they ended there friendship, also this girl was jealous of me, she had wanted Arusha for herself.. Arusha planned on coming herself not only this time but 3 more times after this..

I think that's enough info so people can make a opinion on the situation. My family and friends have the same opinion, they liked her at the start because I was happy and feel and show emotions that I had hidden for so long. long story short she has said that she will pay for me to fly over there idk maybe 5 times because the times she had bought a ticket to come over she always got cold feet. 1st time she had put money into paypal and was about to transfer to me when I smoked weed with some mates and was honest with her and told her... I know I am all over the place with trying to explain this...
I have not been the nicest guy throughout the 2yrs I have lied and been a asshole to her, I have gave everything away so this girl trusts me again and feels safe and comfortable.. she has manipulated and black mailed me so many times I lost count, the situation atm we both know we love each other very much and there is so much frustrations from not seeing each other and sitting at home and giving up most of our lifes for each other that we just fight and last 6 months have started getting really nasty to each other..
I told her I can get the money to fly there myself but she insists I don't ask family for money, so once again she promised to go to western union this monday (the past 2 weeks we have gotten along great) we both agreed this was the final time or we try and be friends. I said I cant live no longer not doing nothing for a girl idk if I will see her or when, she agreed.
I fucked up again on Saturday night and got onto the ice again which has been a increasing problem, I'm sure she knows from the comments and the stuff she asks me.. her reason for not doing it was that her car was not working which I know is bullshit as she has used the same exuse in the past..

We talked last night before I went to sleep and she was just trying to start a fight with me about anything! she could not get me to argue her childish bullshit, ever since I took shrooms last thursday (will post a drug report, hopefully easier to read for you people :) , I have been back to myself and its very hard to get me angry)
This morning when I woke up and resided in the fact I will never see her :( she messaged me on facebook and said Hi so I called her, she done everything she knows I hate and what makes me pissed off and she ended the call after I say she is full of shit when she said she not know what was wrong with her car a few hours later she writes me 'nite' then 'complains I have my net off on phone so she cant call me. Anyway I say to her there is no reason for me to have my phone on, it wastes battery, her last reply was that she had gone to the bank in her today and asked why she wastes money again.. I'm 90% sure she is full of shit, this is the reason I give to myself for lying about drugs to her, I know I should be honest with her, but I tried and I cannot stop taking drugs, it only has been making me worse all the shit from this relationship.. I just need some advice, if you dont understand any part of what I write I will be happy to explain and thanks for reading and lets pray its understandable
 
LDRs are unsatisfying. hence you are fighting

so how close are you to job and getting your own place?
 
in my own stupidity and being nieve and gullable, iv turned down a few places to move out... I have a mate who helps out the local drug community who has a room, but im kinda scared that being there wil only increase my habit... everything is packed just waiting until my dad hates me that much he dont care if i lived on the streets.. he doesnt care if i do and i dont blame him.. i told mum who i was moving out with and she stopped me.. with getting a job iv got the motivation again to work and find work its just this girl has been promising me that shes coming over past 2 yrs and yeah im a idiot for believing her and letting her manipulate me and then black mail me, i took down the thread after thinking what i had posted.. lucky i didnt tell all she has blackmailed me into... GUYS BE WARNED ABOUT INTERNET DATING, we both did cheat on each other. I never told her about when I did, she told me when she had least half the truth when she kissed 1 guy and only got naked with another
 
Conversation starters: Hi, Hello

Ways to ask women out: Would you like to get some coffee? Would you like to hang out sometime? Would you like to do something fun? Do you want to be study buddies? (College classes are a easy way to meet nice women)

Ways to work up courage: Stop being a pansy and if you make a mistake say "that kinda came out weird, you seem really nice and I dunno I just wanted to get to know you better and didn't know what to say"

Honestly admitting when a situation is awkward can relieve tension. Just remember women get nervous too.

If you speak to the same woman on a regular basis flirt with her. Tell her she looks nice today or tell her you like her shoes or ask her if she had her hair done. I dunno why but I find if you notice a woman got a hair cut, dyed her hair ir styled that differently they like that.

Start a conversation and if you know you won't see her again say something like "it was really nice talking to you, maybe we could get together sometime and do something fun." That would apply if thr conversation was remotely interesting. You can think of shit as you go along. Worst case is she says something about a boyfriend or you get friend zoned.

Speaking of friend zone, its actually a good thing to have female friends. I met quite a few women I dated through women I was friends with and I have had friendships grow into relationships.

You got to be able to talk to wome. If you want to date. As far as what yoy say it doesn't really matter as long as you are polite because if she digs you she will give you her number.

If you meet a woman in a bar or social event you can eithet try to sleep with her that might which is sometimes more trouble than its worth or you can just be like can I call you sometime.

If you are scared of rejection test.the waters a bit and tou will get an idea whether or not a woman is receptive to your advances.

Try not to be intimidated if you really like a woman. She might like you too. Sometimes shy woman come off snobby.

Dating is a bit of trial and error but you got nothing to lose and everything to gain by keeping trying until talking and flirting come natural.
 
^ well said!

I'd have to agrEe w/ just about everything tude said.
As I could probably date a guy w/o a job and living @ home, depending on the situation(I'm in a LTR). I couldn't date some1 who is constantly unemployed, I'm to poor myself to support any1 else.

It's interesting to hear this from women, i would assume they would be major red flags. But i suppose in the present economy it's not uncommon..
 
I read tude's post and she is definitely right about smiles as being a big signal.

If you exchange several smiles with a woman she wants to talk to you. You gotta kind of read it though like all body language and reciprocate.

I still think the biggest key is to be able to start a conversation.
 
Yes, I heard the supermarket too.
Once you get one, here are Casanova's commandments. lol

"​Casanova Commandment #1To make a woman feel special, do something special.
For his illicit dinner with the good sister, Casanova rented an elegant five-room apartment. He met her as she stepped off the gondola, and they walked arm-in-arm across a lantern-lit plaza.
Your move: When you're trying to impress a woman, never utter these words at the cusp of an evening: "So, what do you feel like doing?" A true Casanova takes charge. He has a plan. To devise a memorable one, imagine that you're proposing. What would you do to make the night so special she couldn't possibly say no? Then arrange it (minus the ring and bent-knee thing, of course). After all, you are proposing--only it's something far more enticing than marriage.
"Women are very appreciative of any kind of effort," says Young. "Casanova certainly realized that."
Casanova Commandment #2
Privacy is sexy.
The nun had a reputation to protect, and Casanova was sensitive to that. The apartment staff did not disturb Casanova and his guest; dinner was served through a window in the wall, allowing the servants to deliver the food without being seen or heard. There were no prying eyes to fear, nothing to distract the two lovers from each other. Privacy gives a woman permission to be herself.
Your move: Create an intimate atmosphere whenever you can. Invite her to dinner at your place, reserve a cozy table at a fine restaurant, encourage her to slip away from the party for a starlit stroll....Continually be searching for eddies in the evening where you both can linger and connect. You can bestow no greater compliment on a woman than your full attention.
Casanova Commandment #3
Let her admire you admiring her.
Casanova's rented apartment was full of mirrors and candles. He wanted his love to be "reflected a thousand times," and he wanted to be able to enjoy her from many different angles during dinner. He knew, too, that a beautiful woman enjoys looking at herself--that the mirrors would become her portraits, and she'd feel even sexier because of it. "There's a magical quality to mirrors, candlelight, and silver," says Young. "Women find it enchanting."
Your move: If you can't duplicate an atmosphere like this, become a mirror yourself. Let her see the effects of her beauty and charm reflected in you. Every now and then, look at her appreciatively and smile. At opportune times, compliment her--choosing a trait other than the obvious. For instance, pretty women are used to being told they're pretty. That kind of compliment has little effect. But tell a pretty woman that she's smart, and you often win her heart. There's a magical quality to a man's open, insightful admiration that women find equally enchanting.
Casanova Commandment #4
Ask her what she thinks.
Casanova's seduction lasted several hours, and he spent much of this time asking questions and listening. In an age when women were considered inferior to men, such behavior was flattering. He treated his guest reverently, and not just because she was a nun. This woman was his equal, and he was genuinely interested in her perspective.
Your move: The reason women found Casanova so fascinating is that he found them so fascinating. In fact, he believed that without engaging conversation, physical pleasure was uninteresting. "The minute you start thinking of the woman as an object, the instant you become more interested in yourself than in finding out about her, then you're not being a Casanova," notes Emery. "He made women feel valued for things other than their bodies."
It's not difficult to get a woman to talk about herself. Just ask open-ended questions and shut up. But you have to be sincere about it. Casanova's success with women stemmed from his genuine interest in them. He touched their hearts before daring to venture anyplace else.
Casanova Commandment #5
Encourage decadence.
For this particular evening, Casanova spared no expense. The apartment, the dinner table, his own body were all dressed with the finest things available. The meal consisted of eight courses, served in pairs. Many of the dishes, such as oysters, champagne, game, sturgeon, truffles, fruits, and sorbets, were delicacies, considered highly indulgent separately, let alone combined with everything else. Casanova was obviously out to impress, but he also knew that after the first sampling of something sinful, it becomes much easier to sin again.
Your move: Provide your lady with something decadent. This could be a single chocolate truffle (gift-wrapped) or an ice-cream sundae that the two of you share. Indulgence is the removal of a single brick that significantly weakens the temple.
Casanova Commandment #6
Appeal to all her senses.
Casanova scented the apartment with tuberoses because he believed they were an aphrodisiac. He served oysters and champagne as an appetizer because on the tongue there is only one thing more titillating. He asked for his lady's opinions because every woman loves the music of her own voice. He created an atmosphere of lavishness and luxury, so her own indulgence would feel less guilty. And he touched her, often and gently, to return her attention to the true focus of the evening. By stimulating every sense, Casanova was able to immerse this woman more fully in the moment, and make her feel more alive and sexual.
Your move: Be attentive to every one of your mate's five senses. Play background music, touch the small of her back to guide her, make eye contact, give her a flute of champagne to sip, buy her a fresh flower to sniff....Think of each sense as a little engine you need to warm up. When all her senses are purring, she will be, too.
Casanova Commandment #7
Savor the anticipation.
Although Casanova immediately grew "ardent" when he noticed that his lady's breasts were covered by only a dainty chemise, he didn't force himself upon her. He was patient. He accepted her single kiss and cherished her two-word promise: "After supper."
"Casanova appreciated that if you have your pleasure too quickly, you don't suck all the pleasure out of it," explains Young. "Savor the anticipation, because often the anticipation is half the fun."
Your move: Foreplay doesn't happen only in the bedroom 60 seconds before intercourse. It's organic. It encompasses the entire day. Slip a note into her purse confessing how much you're looking forward to this date, or call her at work and tell her the same. When you meet, take her hands and softly kiss her lips. Most important: Allow the evening to progress at its own pace, remembering that neither of you has to be anywhere except together.
Casanova Commandment #8
Be playful.
Most of the food and drink Casanova preferred was sexually suggestive. Plump oysters, succulent game hens, soft cheeses, ripe fruit...On one level, he simply enjoyed watching women put these things in their mouths. But on another, he saw dinnertime as an opportunity for playfulness. When a slippery oyster fell onto an ample bosom, he immediately offered to slurp it off. When the salad arrived undressed, he encouraged the lady to dribble on the oil and vinegar. Casanova realized that sex isn't serious--it's playtime for adults. Games like this are the warmup.
Your move: Whether you're dining at home or at a restaurant, choose something provocative the two of you can share. Put the plate between you and nibble. Eat with your fingers. Feed each other. Make it your goal to keep the evening lighthearted.
Casanova Commandment #9
Be spontaneous.
Casanova was an opportunist. He drifted from country to country, working at ludicrously diverse jobs (among them, priest and pimp). He was a disciple of the moment. Once, while sharing a carriage with a farmer's wife during a severe storm, he found her perched on his lap after a frightening thunderclap. Seizing the opportunity, he deftly rearranged her skirts.
Your move: If the evening isn't going according to plan, abandon it. Be attuned to fate and go where it directs. The confidence and daring this shows is in itself seductive.
Casanova Commandment #10
Surprise her with a gift
After supper, Casanova and his lady retired to a candlelit alcove, where he presented her with a beautiful lace nightcap. She pronounced it "magnificent." It was the final, thoughtful coup de grace. "She told me to go undress in the next room," writes Casanova, "promising to call me as soon as she was in bed. This took but 2 minutes."
Your move: Women love unexpected gifts. Make hers personal rather than trendy, small rather than large, silly rather than serious--something only she can appreciate. "Casanova's gifts showed a great deal of creativity and thoughtfulness," says Emery. Most important, time your gift's delivery for that critical point in the evening when there remains just one obvious way for her to show her gratitude
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