In my experience the emergency room won't do one single thing for you if you are in brutal opiate withdrawals despite the size of the habit or anything (except slap you with a fat bill). Am i wrong about this?
Totally right. the ER isn't gonna do shit for you except slap on your file that youre an addict and the next time you come in with your arm hanging on by a thread of skin to just give you an advil. And then slap you with a bill. And then tell you to get lost and stop complaining about how you havent slept for 3 days and your legs wont stop shaking and you haven't been able to keep food down in over 48 hours so youre weak and your bodys all fucked up and you can barely walk; they'll put ya in the wheel chair roll ya to the front door and see ya later.
Well,
unless the hospital has a detox unit. When I was at detox the hospital i was at would actually bring in people in severe alcohol/opiate/benzo W/D FROM the ER TO the Detox unit. But as everyone told me, those few hours they were waiting in the ER they didnt get shitttttttttt and had to wait to get to the detox ward until they could get suboxone/librium/w/e their medication was.
I also made the switch from SEVERAL opana 40s a day (average minimum of 3, so 120+mg opana daily minimum) and checked my ass into detox. I made the jump to subutex 24 hours later when my withdrawals were just barely starting (opana has long legs so the bulk of W/D start later, and after that first 24 hours thats just the TIP of the withdrawal ice berg, for me opana w/d peak at 2-3 days). Anyway since they were barely started i risked taking 2mg subutex, and it made me a bit better. But do NOT try taking subs/bupe ANY SOONER when it comes to opana, the 12 hour rule most people here use IMO does NOT apply to opana, for me its the 24 hour rule with these yellow bastards.
First day i was on 10mg subutex (from my 120mg opana minimum daily, some days even higher like 160-200mg avg) and that held me well. I was able to drop rapidly and was at 2mg 5 days later.
Even for withdrawals from a drug as strong as opana, at such crazy doses, 10mg bupe was enough for me.
But everyone is different, there was a kid there on a much less severe oxy habit who had to take the same amount of bupe as me.
Also just fyi:
i have never in my life experienced w/d akin to when I kicked that opana habit. I've kicked hundreds of Mgs of morphine before, i've kicked a crazy amount of 8mg dillys, oxys, even skag once (although i have a preference for pharmas) and not one of those times,
not even the time i was doing 4-500mg morphine and 24mg dilly DAILY compared to the opana withdrawal.
Normally the worst part of W/D for me is NOT the pain, but from kicking the opanas i was in actual physical mind numbing pain and agony, in particular in my back. Yes my back gets bad withdrawing from ANY opiate, but it honestly felt as if someone were constantly smashing it with a sledgehammer, so badly that i had to curl up in contorted positions on my bed to put 0 pressure on my back muscles. And even then, laying like some sideshow freak, the pain was still on a level that I have never experienced.
I may catch shit from the ladies for this comment but I can imagine that childbirth is much less painful than what I was going through. Never in my life have i felt that kind of pain (never from a broken bone, from ripping all the flesh from my knee, nada ever compared)
To put it in perspective, i've never NEEDED detox/hospital for withdrawals before. Sure, it would've been nice, and made it a lot easier, but i never
needed it. With the withdrawals from those opanas? I definitely
needed to be in that hospital detox ward. There is no fucking way i could have done that on my own.
t gets my pain down to about a 6.....Im think Im going to ask to switch to Morphine on my next appt. Any Thoughts??
