Hi Keif, Apology accepted and I totally understand. Unfortunately, you did not have all the information. The following is going to be complicated. So bare with me. I have had no opioids at all in 17 days. I have only taken them a few times in my life for very short periods of time for a broken arm and Bell's Palsy. However, I had a very unusual virus most of the time for the past 17 months and had to take antivirals for a year and was put on Klonopin .5 mgs last October at night for insomnia caused by the antivirals. I am still on that. I no longer take the antivirals. I contracted a kidney infection after an epidural steroid injection for spinal stenosis in early June. Those injections can lower your immunity and you are more susceptible to getting infections. I was not diagnosed with the kidney infection until July 9th. I had been taking IBP for a few weeks before being diagnosed, but it started bothering my stomach and had to stop it. I then went on the opioids after the diagnosis, since the pain from the kidney infection was a 10. I went on Tramadol 50 mgs 2/day for about 5 weeks and then went on 5 mgs. 2/day of oxycodone for almost 3 weeks. My symptoms have been numerous and come and are now mostly gone. They occurred not only throughout the day but each day I usually did not have the same ones. Right now, things seem to be winding down and today I only got muscle pain and aches, nausea, migraine headaches and feeling really ill. I have been taking Benadryl the last couple of days (which has helped some) and from the beginning have been taking Imitrex PRN for the migraines and Zofran PRN for nausea that makes me feel really ill. The symptoms I had today went away late this afternoon and I felt the best I have felt in 17 days. Tonight, I was finally able to eat food and had an appetite. The symptoms I have had have been, excessive yawning, salivation, migraine headaches, muscle and joint aches (severe at times), nausea (sometimes severe), stomach discomfort, back pain, sweating (on and off), loss of appetite and hard to eat anything, feeling very ill, chills, weakness and once felt like something was being pulled out of my brain and it effected my vision briefly. It made me sweat and feel really ill. I only had that symptom once a few days ago and it only lasted for a few minutes. It was very weird. I have to believe this current withdrawal has something to do with being on the Klonopin. I was on it previously a few years ago for a year and a half when I got insomnia from an antidepressant I was on. When I discontinued the psych med, I had withdrawal symptoms for 5 weeks from that and a month later started tapering the Klonopin. I had withdrawal symptoms everyday for 4 months to get off .5 mgs. My PCP says sometimes a relatively short course like I had with opioids can cause withdrawal symptoms and they can sometimes last a month! Incredible to me. I would have never thought I would have been in this spot. This is one of the reasons why the government and health authorities are up in arms about opioids. I doubt I will ever take another opioid again in my life. I think my situation is pretty unusual in the sense I have had a lot going on with my health and that probably is contributing as well. And, I also am still on .5 mgs. of Klonopin. Who knows how all of this has contributed to this discontinuation syndrome. Thanks for your reply. I appreciate it. People here have a lot of experience with this kind of thing and I do not. I am truly grateful for all the input I have received. BTW, the withdrawal symptoms I had from the Klonopin 2 years ago were very different from the opioid withdrawal symptoms. I do not think they were as bad, they just went on for 4 months, which made them really awful.