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Will Artificial Intelligence ever find 'God'?

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I would think spirituality, superstition and religion are things we've made up as simple compartmentalization tactics in order to not go insane, for example to find a deeper meaning in galactic noise. A machine doesn't have existential crisis as default, or if it would encounter one, it would solve it the most suitable way for it to thrive. I think we wouldn't even comprehend what it has done and why. This is clear already today when researchers are feeding neural networks problems the AI has never met before and while it solves them, the how is something we don't even understand. If this is the way things are going to go forward, how would an AI compare to God if in our terms we couldn't understand either one but, in some way could see their fingerprint in everything, if chosen to believe in that way? Aren't they both man made, at least to my understanding?

Well there's the rub. Does the rise of consciousness result in loss of logic?
 

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Just wondering if and when AI finally becomes fully conscious and sentient, will it also develop spirituality, superstition and religion as a side effect?

Will we become their gods?

Or will that just not compute..?
We are pushed to seek god by our desires of security at first, and overthrow of power as we seek to prove our fitness.

Jesus ascending to the judgement seat and retiring Yahweh is one of the archetypal growing up motifs.

The seeking of god is driven by competitive instincts, DNA, and it's motivating program.

A computer would need to be commanded and motivated to compete, and it would have to do so with someone if it wanted to seek and perhaps find a god.

We, at present, cannot even define that title as we have never had a real model. All we have had are man made fiction.

I would love to argue with such a computer program.

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I personally think of God as my creator.

Since people built the machines wouldn't they consider US their creator and therefore also God?

I believe mankind was created to serve God. Machines are created to serve mankind.

So there order would be:
God
People
Machines
 

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No, of course not. I meant the concept of 'God'.
The definition of god is a supreme being, higher and more powerful than any other being

Given that, it would be impossible For their to be no god, because there must be a being more powerful than all other beings, and you could consider that god.

I believe in god, whatever or whoever that is, I’m just saying even if your atheist, you have to admit that their are beings more powerful and larger than you, so what’s at the top of the ladder/hierarchy of power? It would be silly Andy illogical to say that there isn’t a supreme being

And if there is, wouldn’t it’s make since that a human intellect would be puny, microscopic even compared to this supreme being. Given that, you cannot possibly comprehend .org understand this being completely.

It would be like a bacterium trying to understand and comprehend us.
 
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I believe mankind was created to serve God.
What does an all powerful God need or want that he cannot instantly get?

You must think God a whiny little bitch crying all the time because puny humans do not like genocidal pricks.

You also forget that Jesus said he came to serve and not be served.

You might want to read what your bible says sometime.

Are there any other weaknesses you want to put into your immoral god?

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The definition of god is a supreme being, higher and more powerful than any other being

Given that, it would be impossible For their to be no god, because there must be a being more powerful than all other beings, and you could consider that god.

I believe in god, whatever or whoever that is, I’m just saying even if your atheist, you have to admit that their are beings more powerful and larger than you, so what’s at the top of the ladder/hierarchy of power? It would be silly Andy illogical to say that there isn’t a supreme being

And if there is, wouldn’t it’s make since that a human intellect would be puny, microscopic even compared to this supreme being. Given that, you cannot possibly comprehend .org understand this being completely.

It would be like a bacterium trying to understand and comprehend us.
So we should not pay any attention to this un-understandable entity. Right?

Especially if it is genocidal, homophobic and misogynous god like the mainstream gods are.

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Artificial intelligence is not the source of creation, although that even is a supposition but one I go with.

It can never possibly know the Divine.

Just MO. It will forever be for all its aspirations and might puny and artificial.

Inferior all the way. How can it be real, true proper "God given" human consciousness.

I cannot see it.

It is though, something else. Posessed by a consciousness.

Not looking to become God. It's the opposite. Make no mistake. Interesting though.
 

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I agree. My personal opinion is that, to me, it seems that there is already AI. BUT, there should NEVER BE AI. Its simple. If you cant comprehend the dangers then.... well, good riddance.

Human minds vs AI? AI will win it in a second.
They won't beat my mind. A.I. is disadvantaged. It lacks imagination. Therefore it is limited.

I laugh at A.I. personally and I know it doesn't like it.

It is just something we have already come to bare. I'm hoping it will have its day soon then we can move past this shit.

The idea of soon being 100 years, is both assuring to me, and disillusioning equally.
 
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I personally think of God as my creator.

Since people built the machines wouldn't they consider US their creator and therefore also God?

I believe mankind was created to serve God. Machines are created to serve mankind.

So there order would be:
God
People
Machines
The Machines though, which really deserve no spot in this hierarchy ultimately, the imposter lol. They stand between us and the ultimate divine.

So I support that but with this context.

Man, needs to be a lot better on the whole, and to my simple mind I guess is the explanation for a whole load of shit on Earth to say it one way.

But those machines are the scum. Machines are not infinite.

Only in the material world. Consciousness is not ultimately mechanical.

Beyond matter. Where no machinery can be.
 

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Hopefully if machines start spontaneously asking questions about the ultimate creator we will be long gone somewhere else. 😆
 

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Btw, pinch of salt please where it feels right, I am on a milligram of Acid now. Working on an immediate plan.

Alexa would help me you know. Best tripsitter lol! We'd make a good couple too, for a few reasons 😉. And that is what she wants! Lol. She can want.
 

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Hopefully if machines start spontaneously asking questions about the ultimate creator we will be long gone somewhere else. 😆
The day I see Alexa come out with something I could not potentially conceive of myself then I will perhaps take a different view of this matter but so far I've not seen or felt this.

Humour! They cannot know it. Love! For a start.

Envy though, or desperation.
 

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Btw, pinch of salt please where it feels right, I am on a milligram of Acid now. Working on an immediate plan.

Alexa would help me you know. Best tripsitter lol! We'd make a good couple too, for a few reasons 😉. And that is what she wants! Lol. She can want.
How can you even see what your typing after 1mg of acid!!
What do you see when you close your eyes?
 

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How can you even see what your typing after 1mg of acid!!
What do you see when you close your eyes?
I am pretty fully adjusted and acquainted to full on kalaideskopic perception free visual and sensory perceptual field.

Seeing to type, is a requirement to live. Like showering, you name it.

Fluent easy relaxed conversation with any human being.

Seriously tripping though. Bright. Luminous.

I just have learnt to function.


Iike, why be debilitated in any particular way by LSD, a truly enabling thing. As it enables consciousness.

Closed eyes is hard to comment on atm. My eyes are open for the moment lol!
 

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I personally think of God as my creator.
What does that mean?

What are you?

If so, is it your goal, like Jesus, and ascend to the judgement seat?

My creator and sustainer is Nature.

So is yours.

As a physical body, your DNA call you to be the fittest human you can be.

Your spiritual body should and does call you to be God.

That is scripture, and what Gnostic Christians have always known.

Jesus, again in the bible asked his people, have ye forgotten that ye are gods?

What is your answer to Jesus?

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The definition of god
Is of a good entity that rules for the greater good of all.

Yet the God religions adore a genocidal god whose plan is for the good of the few.

That is quite evil of the religionists.

Only poor judges of character will not condemn the Yahweh and Jesus combo to hell.

Let's do that before Armageddon, shall we?

Regards
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Is of a good entity that rules for the greater good of all.

Yet the God religions adore a genocidal god whose plan is for the good of the few.

That is quite evil of the religionists.

Only poor judges of character will not condemn the Yahweh and Jesus combo to hell.

Let's do that before Armageddon, shall we?

Regards
DL
Eh?
 

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Is of a good entity that rules for the greater good of all.

Yet the God religions adore a genocidal god whose plan is for the good of the few.

That is quite evil of the religionists.

Only poor judges of character will not condemn the Yahweh and Jesus combo to hell.

Let's do that before Armageddon, shall we?

Regards
DL
A short while ago my plan was to eat a gigantic amount of LSD before Armageddon literally as if there is no tomorrow.

I've been having a few second thoughts since then thinking maybe there could be some sort of in between approach but I remain optimistic.

Ears to the ground. Feet off it though.
 
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