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Why is Jesus in third place when he deserves first?

Gnostic Bishop

Gnostic Bishop

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Why is Jesus in third place when he deserves first?

Jesus says he is doing his fathers will and not his own. This diminishes him.

We can curse Yahweh and Jesus, but not the Holy Ghost. This elevates the H G above Jesus.

Yahweh created a chimera son and then showed himself to be a deadbeat dad. This reduces him.

Jesus died for us while Yahweh shirked his duty to his child. Right? This diminishes Yahweh and elevates Jesus.

I think Jesus should be elevated, thanks to those facts.

The religions sorely need a judge and logos and using that Jesus archetype and scrapping the Yahweh archetype is what Jesus was trying to tell us.

I think Yahweh should take third place. Better still, eliminate third place.

Why is Jesus in third place when he deserves first?

Regards

DL
 
I'm pretty sure that according to bible cursing Jesus is a sin. It's blasphamy.
Even in Islam cursing any prophet, even Jesus, leads to death. I don't remember the Christian punishment for this.
 
DeadManWalkin' said:
I'm pretty sure that according to bible cursing Jesus is a sin. It's blasphamy.
Even in Islam cursing any prophet, even Jesus, leads to death. I don't remember the Christian punishment for this.
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Check the net for Holy Ghost cursing thingies that non-believers do for fun.

Everything I put is scripture and dogma.

Jesus is sitting in the right hand or lower tear than the bastard with the top spot.

Put no one above me, is Yahweh the vile talking.

Regards
DL
 
alasdairm said:
how is jesus in third place?

alasdair
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Read the O.P. as it shows the issues.

I could add that Jesus is superior due to not using genocide.

Jesus had to sin to know what it was to be human and that is what has made him superior to Yahweh.
The all knowing Yahweh learned something new from Jesus and that makes Jesus the ultimate teacher and not the second class genocidal one.

Regards
DL
 
Gnostic Bishop said:
A law without enforcement is garbage.

Walk tall till knocked down, but always speak the truth according to you mind. My little adage.

Regards
DL
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Well, our society isn't christian anymore so of course it's not enforced. But from completely theological standpoint.
 
The Wizard of the Creek said:
God doesn’t exist, and Jesus is amalgam of ancient Mesopotamian messiahs. Don’t drink the Kool-Aid dude.

Practice witchcraft instead, it’s not a religion, it a practice.

—Wizard
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No argument my friend.

It is all myth and allegory but still a way or outline to a peaceful and loving way.

That is the goal of every decent ideology, be it religious or political.

They are all great for the in group but hell on earth for the out groups and to end that tension, every sage suggests electing a new great teacher, even while knowing that he is only there to serve as an ideal and not really a true great teacher.

The religious are an unruly bunch and teachers discipline, as they teach. This going to extinction species needs a new Top Dog.

Regards
DL
 
DeadManWalkin' said:
Well, our society isn't christian anymore so of course it's not enforced. But from completely theological standpoint.
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Not enforced?

Don't suggest that to some.



You may know that the West has declawed Christianity, but they are still a fascist ideology, just like Islam.

Judaism gave that up, but that evil is rife in Yahweh's tribe.

They already discriminate against women and gays and anyone can be next.

Regards
DL
 
The Wizard of the Creek said:
I can curse anything/anyone I want to. I’ve earned it! Btw, it’s been the Holy Spirit since Vatican II. Thankx, go study theology some more dude.

*mic drop*

—Wizard
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Hey, the way they are changing the bibles all the time, I could not keep up.

Did you read that they are going to take all res to anti-Christ out of the next major edition.

Perhaps they will tell the truth that Jesus was never the Christ soon.

Truth. Nahh

Regards
DL
 
Gnostic Bishop said:
Not enforced?

Don't suggest that to some.



You may know that the West has declawed Christianity, but they are still a fascist ideology, just like Islam.

Judaism gave that up, but that evil is rife in Yahweh's tribe.

They already discriminate against women and gays and anyone can be next.

Regards
DL
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Christianity fascist ideology?
If you're looking for high caliber discussion with facts, this is not how you get it.
Many of the things you appreciate today can be traced back to christianity.
Things like, umm.. Human rights? Idea of humans being property of god, not other humans. That's how it began.
 
alasdairm said:
in the trinity, jesus is in second place. or joint first :)

either way he's in the medals :)

alasdair
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Last place; woopy' when first place is earned.

You are not the best judge of just law.

I note that in terms of ethics, you do not mind the genocidal ideology to trump the non.

Fascism and Christianity are old friends.

Regards
DL
 
Gnostic Bishop said:
Last place; woopy' when first place is earned.

You are not the best judge of just law.

I note that in terms of ethics, you do not mind the genocidal ideology to trump the non.

Fascism and Christianity are old friends.

Regards
DL
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Old friends?
Look at on Hitlers quotes about christianity. It being a disease. Hitler actually admired Islam for it's hygiene and militarism.
Mussolini wasn't a big fan neither. He grew up in Italy and got in lots of trouble with the local churches because of his youth behaviour.
His father was a Socialist and so was Mussolini in his youth and socialists don't like religions, okay?
Best regards
DMW
 
DeadManWalkin' said:
Christianity fascist ideology?
If you're looking for high caliber discussion with facts, this is not how you get it.
Many of the things you appreciate today can be traced back to christianity.
Things like, umm.. Human rights? Idea of humans being property of god, not other humans. That's how it began.
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I owe religion quite a bit. I am still a religionist just like you, only better.

I denounce any genocidal god who kills when he can cure the way Jesus and the myth preach.

My religion went to where they ignored the popes who told the sheeple not to be literalists, and yet stupid literal reading of myths still continues, thanks to lying preachers, Imams etc,, All con agents.

As to Fascism. Who was Hitler's bank if not the Vatican?

Get your favorite definition of Fascisms and we can discus it.

Regards
DL
 
Gnostic Bishop said:
I owe religion quite a bit. I am still a religionist just like you, only better.

I denounce any genocidal god who kills when he can cure the way Jesus and the myth preach.

My religion went to where they ignored the popes who told the sheeple not to be literalists, and yet stupid literal reading of myths still continues, thanks to lying preachers, Imams etc,, All con agents.

As to Fascism. Who was Hitler's bank if not the Vatican?

Get your favorite definition of Fascisms and we can discus it.

Regards
DL
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Vatican being corrupt isn't pure form of christianity and you should know this. Vatican isn't christianity, it's an instintution which is supposed to represent some form of it. If it does or doesn't can be argued and if you look at bible and what christianity represents and what vatican therefore should represent, if this financing has truly been happening anyone can say that they haven't been looking for interestes of christianity there, but for interestes of themselves as institution.
Hitler got financed from many different places and Switzerland banks are one well known source.
I'd need to do research on that before saying a final word. Don't know about this Vatican theory.
 
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