Heroin why cant i ever fall asleep on heroin

[e92]

when i do a little, i have no problem falling asleep, but its when i do a lot and i'm super high i cant actually get a nights sleep. i'll nod off for a good 15 minutes, even half hour or even hour. but then i'll just wake right back up. i'll lay in bed, close my eyes super relaxed but i will not fall asleep. weird...

 

[SKR]

That's normal ime with opiates, you're too stimulated or high to sleep. It appears to be a common misconception that because you "nod" on opiates that this precedes sleep, it does in many cases but not if you're too high.

 

[Hiltoniano]

Same happens to me. Not sure why. I never Minded, I just enjoyed that I was awake during the high and not eating the whole experience by passing out for the duration. Of the effects especially if I am really high and obv to be really high you gotta do a lot and if I did a lot, i feel like I should be able to enjoy and be conscious for that to fully appreciate it and such. The real reason, I have no clue pharmacologically speaking. It is sedating in general and when I was dependent, like almost anyone who is, I required it to sleep, but in the morning when I would use it I would not have any issues staying awake and it even gave me energy when I was deep into 'using every single day.

 

[Burnt Offerings]

That's normal ime with opiates, you're too stimulated or high to sleep. It appears to be a common misconception that because you "nod" on opiates that this precedes sleep, it does in many cases but not if you're too high.

Yeah I definitely agree with that.

 

[hatrix]

I'm the same way. I usually get pretty high when I get some, and I don't sleep the entire night then. I feel totally relaxed and good though but I won't actually fall asleep.

 

[Alex000]

Opiates, at higher doses, put you into the nod-state; that is their action and they do it, for they are not sedative-hypnotics which cause greater sedation with greater doses by the mechanism of GABA in the nervous system such as z-drugs, benzodiazepines, barbiturates, carisoprodol, gabapentin, etc. Opiates are a different animal - they don't sedate like a lot of other drugs do.

 

[Gaz_hmmmm]

If the 'nod state' wasn't sedation I don't think they'd use etorphine/dihydroetophine on big game animal's.

Another reason that you possibly aren't sleeping is if you are using street Heroin then it could be cut with caffeine.

Heroin #3/freebase which is what we get inEurope is alalways cut with caffeine so it vapourises easier.

 

[reksME]

Another reason is because a lot of heroin now adays is heavily cut with fentanyl. Fentanyl is meant to heavily sedate a patient with debilitating pain but there's something in it that counteracts sleep. I have tried straight fentanyl by smoking it and I was the most high I've ever.been. I was nodding out standing up but couldn't stop doing more. And sleep is hard.to come by while on just fentanyl

 

[Wants2Nod]

Way back in the day, I used to not be able to sleep on opiods - I mean WAY back. I remember nights as a teenager laying on a couch in some flop house nodding face but not sleeping all night. They certainly are sedating, especially H and morphine, but something about them seems to preclude real sleep, at least during early use. Kind of like alcohol - yeah, it's very sedating, but you never get a real restful nights sleep if you go to bed drunk.

Once I actually needed opiods to function, I couldn't sleep without them.

Years and years later I currently need to take kratom before bed or I absolutely won't be able to sleep - it's not that it's a sleep aid, it's just that without it I can't sleep at all.