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Covid-19 Who's planning on getting a COVID-19 vaccine? (Poll)

Are you planning on getting a COVID-19 vaccine?

  • Yes, as soon as possible

  • Probably but I'm going to wait a while first and see how others tolerate it

  • Probably not but maybe

  • No, never


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finitelifeform

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Would you commit a crime if you could get away with it?
Moreover if a crime was not a crime would you still do it if the repercussions were not justice served on behalf of society?

If you were 10,000 strong and you could storm a building, would you do it? And would you consider your actions to be indepedent on simply that of the group? How would this affect your decision making thereafter? Would you start to do things other people were doing simply because they were doing them?

Basic questions like prove what we already know about human behaviour. You don't even need to answer them because most people would answer yes without a doubt, they just perhaps wouldn't write it here because it's an imagined situation and they live in a world with rules that do not allow them to do those kinds of things. Just the fact I'm saying this alone should really open up the fabric of reality behind the norms, values and beliefs we hold about what is acceptable and what isn't, what is right and what isn't and consequently how people will behave as a result.

Humans are herded. We all know this. We don't like to accept it but we know it's true. Most of us blindly follow things because we assume everybody else is doing it and what everybody else is doing is right because they've been told by someone else that it's right or they assume someone else assumes it's right who assumes someone else assumes it's right. We are group animals and we respond in that way throughout life. We react based on how others behave. We band together to do things, negatively or positively. We experience peer pressure and the desire to conform. These things are used against us on a daily basis. This in and of itself is not a bad thing. It's when it's abused and when people are not aware of it and how it affects their life that it becomes an issue.
 

finitelifeform

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No I'm good. Just wasn't too happy about the passive aggressive reply to my post. It was uncalled for. And it's precisely what I've been pointing out in my posts about just how toxic this politically weaponized pandemic is and how people who perhaps before this were decent socialable rational people are not turning into lifeless robots churning out narratives that just fuel further division and segregation among society. Something that doesn't need to happen and something that will only further destabilize our communities. It's also another reason why I won't rush to get the vaccine when it's evidently being used as a weapon to create us vs them camps, the so-called good guys and the bad guys. Just the fact that's happening and how everything is being weaponized really seems like getting involved is like taking a punch in a street fight hoping you'll break everybody up even though it's got fucking nothing to do with you and you're probably best either calling the cops or walking away. Why fight the war when it's not your war?

And for that I get attacked? No bueno. But I'm good, for now anyway. Not like much will get done. I used to be a global mod on a few popular forums back in the day and I know how toxic the moderator/forum staff culture can be, especially when you're dealing with hot heads with over inflated egos who strive off their assumed power over others.
 

mal3volent

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hot heads with over inflated egos who strive off their assumed power over others.

so you're describing yourself then, from back in the day when you were a "global mod" ? I'm confused. You want to flaunt your credentials while undercutting ours in the same breath.
 

Perforated

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Given the hundreds, if not thousands, of time I have injected questionable and unknown substances directly into my veins I can’t imagine that a vaccine having gone through Stage 3 clinical trials poses a greater risk than all the other times I had a needle in me. So yeah. I’ll take the vaccination. Any IV drug user saying the vaccine is too risky to take is not making a lot of sense.
 

JessFR

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Given the hundreds, if not thousands, of time I have injected questionable and unknown substances directly into my veins I can’t imagine that a vaccine having gone through Stage 3 clinical trials poses a greater risk than all the other times I had a needle in me. So yeah. I’ll take the vaccination. Any IV drug user saying the vaccine is too risky to take is not making a lot of sense.

True, though it's not like humans are great at evaluating risk,

You make an excellent point though. It's crazy to be afraid of a vaccine because you think it 'might' have been rushed (which is nonsense, it came out as fast as it did cause of how much money was thrown at it and the urgency). And yet not afraid of having a shot of a street drug that contains god only knows what.
 

Pickledlemons

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True, though it's not like humans are great at evaluating risk,

You make an excellent point though. It's crazy to be afraid of a vaccine because you think it 'might' have been rushed (which is nonsense, it came out as fast as it did cause of how much money was thrown at it and the urgency). And yet not afraid of having a shot of a street drug that contains god only knows what.
Haha. Reminds me of all those meth users that are soo concerned about the flouride in water. Its like are you serious? Thats your biggest health concern right now?
 

MsDiz

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True, though it's not like humans are great at evaluating risk,

You make an excellent point though. It's crazy to be afraid of a vaccine because you think it 'might' have been rushed (which is nonsense, it came out as fast as it did cause of how much money was thrown at it and the urgency). And yet not afraid of having a shot of a street drug that contains god only knows what.
And the fact 1000s of labs across the world were focused on it. Even my lab had covid vaccine testing which is just bonkers.
 
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I live in Ohio and we start vaccinations of people over the age of 40 starting on Friday the 19th of March. I’ve been hesitant to get the vaccine until I felt confident of its safety, and so has all of my family. I personally feel better about it’s safety after seeing ~100 million, 2.4 million people per day receiving at least the first shot of the American approved vaccines with only mild side effects reported, if any at all. I plan to schedule an appointment tomorrow and be the first in my family to get vaccinated (acting as my family’s guinea pig). I have already gotten coronavirus early last year and still probably have some immunity? So I will ask for the one shot J&J vaccine (if available) because I feel more comfortable taking that shot versus the other two shot vaccines available in the US.

I will start a new thread documenting my experience and any and all side effects that I observe with me.

The Wizard is doing this for his family and maybe convince some other people that are hesitant to get one here? I kind of feel like Jesus doing this for all of the deniers that feel it may be unsafe.

Peace be with you

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Sky God

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I need to call my doctor to confirm but are they still telling people that get anaphylaxis from allergies to not get the shot?
Google is giving mixed results
 

Sky God

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Anaphylaxis is specific to allergens; people are not generally anaphylactic.

Yes I stated from allergies. At the beginning I read people who have allergies that cause anaphylaxis should not get the vaccine.
I believe it was in the UK a few people had anaphylaxis when they got the vaccine even though their allergy source wasn't in the vaccine
 

birdup.snaildown

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All of the cases in the UK were female. 9/10 of them had some allergic history. The percent of people having anaphylactic reactions to vaccines is very low, especially when you consider that 30+% of the general population has some medical history of allergens.
 
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Sky God

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All of the cases in the UK were female. 9/10 of them had some allergic history. The percent of people having anaphylactic reactions to vaccines is very low, especially when you consider that 30+% of the general population has some medical history of allergens.

I want the vaccine so I don't pass it to good people and kill them. I was worried because I get anaphylaxis from a nickel allergy and good to know the chances are low because it's not fun getting ephedrine
 
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I want the vaccine so I don't pass it to good people and kill them. I was worried because I get anaphylaxis from a nickel allergy and good to know the chances are low because it's not fun getting ephedrine

They keep you for at least 15 min after injection for everyone they vaccinate. If you tell them in advance of your nickel allergy and concern of an anaphylactic reaction, I’m sure the medical professionals will take the necessary precautions if they are informed of your allergy. At least I hope they would! Just be your on advocate and make sure the medical professional that gives you the shot understands and answers your questions and concerns you have prior to them giving you the shot.

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birdup.snaildown

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Don't take the moderna if you're concerned and you have the option to go Astra or (better) J&J... but either way the odds are very low. If you're male, they're extremely low. At least 80% of all anaphylactic reactions to the mod vac are female.

CDC said:
On December 19, 2020, the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) issued an interim recommendation for use of Moderna COVID-19 vaccine (1). As of January 10, 2021, a reported 4,041,396 first doses of Moderna COVID-19 vaccine had been administered in the United States, and reports of 1,266 (0.03%) adverse events after receipt of Moderna COVID-19 vaccine were submitted to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS). Among these, 108 case reports were identified for further review as possible cases of severe allergic reaction, including anaphylaxis.

108 cases "possibly" anaphylactic out of over 4 million doses administered.

That's 0.0028%, or 1 in over 35k (for the general population).
 

Sky God

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This virus has really shown how selfish a large portion of the population is. I would probably survive it but who wants to be responsible for killing an elderly person or a child with an immune disorder.
They are constantly learning more about some of the long lasting effects in young adults and children and I highly doubt 1000's of scientists would lie about the vaccines safety .
And I read today about a 19 year old who passed away from covid and he was healthy so not just the elderly.
Anti Vax people should be sterilized because imo not giving your child their shots is child abuse/neglect.
 
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