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Business Who are more powerful the 4 big families of China or the 5 Caucasian families who control the whole world?

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Is it true both China and the United states of America spend so much money on their military's defence budget due to both America's and China's ruling political elites desires to appear the strongest with the real end game for control of the global trade for each nations benefit as well as wishing to be considered the true number one economic superpower of the world?

As of 2019, the United States has the world's largest economy and China has the second largest, although China has a larger GDP when measured by PPP.

Why is the whole reason American society is so fearful and anxious about China's growing economic power? I get the concern over copyright infringement with Chinese Tech ripping off American smartphones etc but Americas best friends in East Asia South Korea and Japan have been doing that since the 1970s.

President Trump's talk of a trade war with China by implementing tariffs is all tough talk to win him a second term.

As far as I can see the economic growth and development lifting the poor in China into a new more affluent middle class that prior to 1980 didn't exist in China is exactly the same socio-economic phenomenon as the
First Industrial Revolution, that was the transition to new manufacturing processes in Europe and the United States, in the period from about 1760 to sometime between 1820 and 1840.


I was told by a Chinese born woman living in Australia the whole reason you have two major social types of Chinese living dramatically different lifestyles in both Asia and the West is due to from the Qin Dynasty to the late Qing Dynasty (221 B.C.- A.D. 1840), the Chinese government divided Chinese people into four classes: landlord, peasant, craftsmen, and merchant. Landlords and peasants constituted the two major classes, while merchant and craftsmen were collected into the two minor.

In other words the majority of Chinese are either dirt poor peasants who have no real wealth and work hard for poor wages verses landlords who have more wealth than they can ever spend in their lifetime.

Things have improved in China over the past 30 odd years thanks to Chinese politician Deng Xiaoping introduced the concept of the socialist market economy in 1978. Chinese people living in poverty dropped from 88 per cent in 1981 to 6 per cent in 2017.

Only 6 percent of Chinese living in poverty is a great improvement but what's 6 percent of 1.386 billion people? Approximately just over eighty three million.

The insane thing is most of the super rich landlord social class still have relatively the same amount of obsence wealth. Visit cities like Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, Penang Malaysia you will see ethnic Chinese driving around in BMWs and shopping at Prada and Gucci.

My Chinese friend told me crazy rich Chinese who live in the West or holiday in luxury out of China spend most of their days either gambling like money doesn't have any value, shopping at designer label outlets, whoring the highest of high class hooker's, eating at the finest fine dining restaurants and getting drunk in nightclubs chasing girls.

Compare that lifestyle to poorer Chinese who come to the west to work 16 hour days riding scooter's for interests, washing dishes, waiting tables, working in textile sweat shops and if female doing nail manicures or working in massage shop's.

As for the big 4 families of the republic of China imagine being born in to that level privilege




According to google when asked who are the current families who rule the world the answer is

according to some historians, scholars and many conspiracy theorists, here are five of the most powerful families that control the world today.
  • The Rothschild Family.
  • The Rockefeller Family. ...
  • The Morgan Family. ...
  • The DuPont Family. ...
  • The Bush Family.
  • SOURCE: RONALDWEDERFOORT.WORDPRESS.COM. ...
 

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Before you can answer who are the most powerful families and/or individuals, I think you gotta first define what exactly you mean by power.

If you have the most power to truly end the world, but not the most power to shape it to your liking, are you more powerful than someone who has far more influence, but less immediate destructive power?

World leaders, particularly of nuclear states, probably fall into the most powerful camp in terms of destroying the world, but not shaping the world. For the latter, it would likely come down more to questions of personal wealth and/or control of critical resources.
 

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Just to address some points but not really the main question: America is scared of China because China is overtaking us. Yes, they basically had the same thing as our industrial revolution, quite recently (still are though it's maturing now). The thing is, the US system has stagnated and our global dominance is on a downward trend, as is quality of life for our people. Our government is squeezing out the middle class. Whereas China's government is creating and strengthening the middle class. The reason China's economy is booming is because of this. Now instead of having to sell their goods to other places, they can sell them to their massive middle class who has money to spend, and they can also produce their own services industry. You listed their poverty rate at 6 percent. While yes, that's a lot of people, the United States has twice as much poverty per capita, at 12.3%. We're not doing as well as China and give it another decade or two and I'm quite sure China will be the largest economy in the world, and the United States will be even lower on quality of life compared to other places.
 

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The majority of Chinese are not super wealthy or as the way the woman described. There are also middle class Chinese.

I have met super wealthy Chinese people and they do spend money like crazy on cars, designer clothes, booze and other drugs, etc. and they live in a bubble and tend to like only other super wealthy Chinese people.

I once introduced a working class South Korean student to a wealthy Chinese man as I was having a group of friends over to party. After the Korean man left, the Chinese man kept going on about how in his opinion Koreans are rude, and racist, and how Japanese are sexist and racist.
 

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After the Korean man left, the Chinese man kept going on about how in his opinion Koreans are rude, and racist, and how Japanese are sexist and racist.
There's some great irony there. I hate X group, they're so prejudice!
 

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The Koreans have a valid reason to hate the Japanese... what the Germans did to the Jews and other groups in WW2, the Japanese did to the Koreans. But the Japanese have never really acknowledged it publicly or apologized. I'm talking concentration camps, human experiments, the whole shebang. My girlfriend told me that recently when we were watching a historical documentary, and I had never heard of it, so I ended up down a deep Wikipedia hole, and learned a lot that was really disturbing.
 

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Im staying away from this thread. His home.
 

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The Koreans have a valid reason to hate the Japanese... what the Germans did to the Jews and other groups in WW2, the Japanese did to the Koreans. But the Japanese have never really acknowledged it publicly or apologized. I'm talking concentration camps, human experiments, the whole shebang.
This!
 

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“The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory, is that conspiracy theorists believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is actually chaotic. The truth is that it is not The Iluminati, or The Jewish Banking Conspiracy, or the Gray Alien Theory.

The truth is far more frightening - Nobody is in control.

The world is rudderless.” -Alan Moore

As to "control" that I think you may be on about you'll never know, the Chinese are upto their necks in "Mafia" control by gangs like 14K & Snakehead (Justice for Sister Ping folks!) & the Amerikans you listed are just front men, we the people have no idea about the truth & NEVER will.
 

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The Koreans have a valid reason to hate the Japanese... what the Germans did to the Jews and other groups in WW2, the Japanese did to the Koreans. But the Japanese have never really acknowledged it publicly or apologized. I'm talking concentration camps, human experiments, the whole shebang. My girlfriend told me that recently when we were watching a historical documentary, and I had never heard of it, so I ended up down a deep Wikipedia hole, and learned a lot that was really disturbing.
Yes my Korean friend told me all about this. I knew about it how even today Koreans who have lived in Japan for multiple generations did not have rights that Japanese citizens automatically have.

 

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I have south Asian or Desi friends from India, who do not hide their dislike of China or the Chinese who they say are trying to take over the world. These south Asians really do not like the Pakistani government, or very extreme Indian, Pakistani, or Bangladeshi Muslims who refuse to live near Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, Indian Christians, Parsis who practise Zoroastrianism, or people who practise Jainism.

A good friend of mine worked with a Japanese woman and when he was not asking her about Japanese men and the sex fetish of the sailor student uniform or if she or her friends had sold their panties to businessmen for yen, she told him how she hated Chinese people and that they want to take over the world.
 

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the Chinese government have gone down the nazi Germany route they have millions of minorities in conceration camps and the world doesnt give a fuck. evenutally this is going to come to a head by the end of century resulting in world war 3 and the liberation of china will end in hundreds of millions of deaths i hope im not around to see it cause the karmic scars on this planet are going to be worse than ww2.
 

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the Chinese government have gone down the nazi Germany route they have millions of minorities in conceration camps and the world doesnt give a fuck. evenutally this is going to come to a head by the end of century resulting in world war 3 and the liberation of china will end in hundreds of millions of deaths i hope im not around to see it cause the karmic scars on this planet are going to be worse than ww2.
That is very true. It is not only Chinese Muslims in those camps either.

 

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The Chinese Muslim camps are well known about, the real tragic crime is the way the Chinese treat the Qigong.
Now that is some really fucked up stuff, the people that use Qigong wish they were in a camp but nope they are locked in "black site" jails, tortured to death & then have their kidneys, eyes, lungs etc taken & sold.

Think I'm joking? Google it.
 

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I only found out about them around 3 years ago. I was in the city (Birmingham) right in the middle where all the main shops are as I'd just got off the bus & on a wk/end all kinds of nutcases, religious groups (cults), SJW's etc set up stands & try to get people into whatever it is they are pushing, some people were sitting down doing Qigong & the board by them had a horrific image of corpses missing bits of their body (it looked like some Mexican Narco video stills it was really that bad) & I stopped die to shock to read what it was about. Some of them got talking to me & told me about who they were & what happened to them in China. They gave me a leaflet where it had the one case of a female prisoner in China who had been "cooked" with an electro-shock batton, the Chinese guards had even inserted it into her vagina & anus (70,000 volts) used it on her eyelids (they were burned black & had horrific scars on them, talk about some fucked up stuff!!!)

They passed me some other stuff too on how you can do their Qigong at home & meetings they held once a week just outside the city where you can do it with them.
I've never forgot those folks, the images of the people in that jail have never left me also, it really disturbed me deeply!!!
 

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Once you realize that there's over 50 recognized ethnicities in China (compared to what, 7 in the US?) and the fact that the majority of them are Han (and all the leadership is Han), it becomes abundantly clear that a large portion of their population are the equivalent of blacks circa Jim Crow era in the US.

I mean, just look at how they've said they're gonna pick the next Dalai Lama... that's not how reincarnation works, you fascist bastards.

I'm convinced that WWIII will be Russia/China vs the rest of the world. The two nations are the most aggressively expanding and unyielding dictatorships in the world at the moment. How much longer will we sit by and watch as they annex region after region? Japan/Germany anyone? Does anyone remember WWII anymore?
 

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Once you realize that there's over 50 recognized ethnicities in China (compared to what, 7 in the US?) and the fact that the majority of them are Han (and all the leadership is Han), it becomes abundantly clear that a large portion of their population are the equivalent of blacks circa Jim Crow era in the US.

I mean, just look at how they've said they're gonna pick the next Dalai Lama... that's not how reincarnation works, you fascist bastards.

I'm convinced that WWIII will be Russia/China vs the rest of the world. The two nations are the most aggressively expanding and unyielding dictatorships in the world at the moment. How much longer will we sit by and watch as they annex region after region? Japan/Germany anyone? Does anyone remember WWII anymore?
And Trump is clearing the path for them and making that reality much more probable.
 
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