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deficiT said:
I don't know how you're confused about a villain returning and surviving a fall in a universe where people shoot lightning out of their fingers

He didn't survive the fall. He is a clone. You are confused.

Beyond that, every universe has it's own rules.

Star Wars has started doing the cheesy Days of Our Lives thing where they bring back dead characters with some flimsy excuse. "Why Marley, I thought you died when you fell down that elevator shaft?" to which the writers come up with some utter bullshit to justify bringing back a fan favourite instead of actually writing something new?

They've done this again with Darth Maul and others.

It creates a problem: death is now meaningless in a saga about life and death.

Is Han Solo still alive? Probably.
What about Anakin?

The series is meaningless now.

But, that's just one problem with the plots of the sequel films.

All three individual plots are garbage, particularly 8 & 9.
 

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I realize I'm doubling with posts here about a series of films featuring characters wielding light swords. I wouldn't be doubling down if I didn't care about these films. Hell, I wouldn't give a shit about the sequel trilogy if I didn't love the originals.

General Grievous was a great character, because he was fragile. The power of the force (along with future technology) is capable of keeping you alive to keep fighting for the empire. That is cool.

But now we have had at least three villains unquestionably die on screen recently. You've got - at least - Vader, Maul, the Emperor and Fett... There is no reason now to bring back Vader, but I actually really don't want to see him either. His resurrection in Squad Falcon or whatever the fuck that film was called, it was like any other reboot. Vader and the Emperor were both introduced for their fanboy status, not because it made sense to include them organically.

How many villains can die now without thinking, "well, maybe they aren't dead?"

It's a cheap gimmick, designed for soulless franchised corporations.
 

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For the record, I didn't enjoy the fact they brought Palpatine back either. They could've been better but they were still entertaining. The clone thing isn't really even mentioned in the movie, and only was confirmed through the novel. A clone body would still be carrying the Emperors soul or whatever, so take that as it is, surviving a fall, cloning, whatever he's still alive in a body and survived the events of episode 6.

The series isn't meaningless now. It was bought out by a massive media company that wants to pump as much money out of it as it can. They have had some success apart from the main installments, ie. Mandalorian, Rogue One. If anything the series is just getting started and likely they'll be putting out good material to wipe the slate clean for all of the disappointed fanboys.
 

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The Battery (2012)

It's about 2 former baseball players with very different personalities and priorities traveling across New England during a zombie outbreak. It's far better than most of the other zombie movies out there; really liked it allot. Relies allot more on character dialog and interaction than it does on zombie killing.

Parallel 2018
About a group of friends who find a mirror in the basement of a house they recently moved into that leads to similar parallel universes and end up using it to their advantage to gain a leg up in their careers. I enjoyed but it was nothing special; there are better movies out there with similar concepts.
 

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They've done this again with Darth Maul and others.
Woah woah woah bro...

Darth Maul and the prequels/shoot-off tv series were what SAVED Star Wars. I remember when I was a kid and I wanted Boba Fett to survive episode six, which seemed plausible given he's a Mandalorian with a jetpack. Then Episode One came out and renewed Star Wars with the coolest of cool villains, even having his awesome theme music composed by John Williams (Battle of Fates). To this day, Maul's character has inspired a SHIT ton of stuff and he's honestly my favorite character in the whole series aside from Kenobi and Mace Windu.

It creates a problem: death is now meaningless in a saga about life and death.
This has been true since episode 4(1). Kenobi takes the fall to save Luke and the others and yet his spirit remains.

The original trilogy was a joke, the prequels were lacking, but out of the sad darkness came Darth Maul, one of the only force sensitive characters to stay alive past the Clone Wars (sorry guys, spoilers) and his story is a gruesome horrific one. They could make an entire tv series about him and Kenobi hunting each other over the decades. Much of this is covered in the animated 'kids' series (read: not only for kids!)
 

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Darth Maul is a terrible villain. He has no personality. No lines of dialogue and he's basically just a Star Trek villain in terms of make-up.

Obi-Wan dying was symbolic and mysterious. His death didn't ruin anything.

Whereas Darth Maul proves you can just chop anybody into pieces and put them back together again.
 

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Darth Maul is a terrible villain. He has no personality. No lines of dialogue and he's basically just a Star Trek villain in terms of make-up.

Obi-Wan dying was symbolic and mysterious. His death didn't ruin anything.

Whereas Darth Maul proves you can just chop anybody into pieces and put them back together again.
I'm sorry you don't like Star Wars TV shows, you're missing out :( most people skip over the tv shows though, I don't know why.

No lines of dialogue
He has plenty. But again if you skip huge chunks of the saga/lore I can see why you'd assume that.
 

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CG said:
Mace Windu

Mace Windu (in the films) wasn't even a character. He was a token Samuel L Jackson appearance. Hi literally ended up in that series of films because SLJ said he wanted to appear in some capacity.

You're fucking crazy if you think he was a great character.
No offense. (I am approaching this is as if it casual.)
 
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Wife said I'm being a 'gatekeeper' so I'll stop -_- and she's right, people can like whatever sliver of Star Wars they want. I haven't read every novel or seen the Christmas Special or anything. I'm being a nerd-jackass and I'm sorry.




I haven't watched any novel films recently. It was an unfortunately busy past week for me.
 
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Gladiator (2000)

This is a classic Ridley Scott film. Great soundtrack, cinematography, enthralling plot. It's a classic blockbuster. I hadn't watched it in years, was fun revisiting it.

8/10


Deep Red (1976)

I really enjoy the cinematography in these old Italian horror flicks. The gore is over the top and not real looking and that's fine by me. The way the camera moves is very riveting.

The plot was rather lacking, and I called it early on (pretty easy if you're paying attention), but I still enjoyed the ride. Soundtrack was off at times as was the subpar dubbing, but I still enjoyed it overall.

6/10
 

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Alright, I simultaneously both loved and hated this movie, which has never really happened for me before. Love always trumps hate, so I highly suggest you watch it.

Loved: Everything you come to expect from a Nolan movie. A+ and excellently made, good actors and everything. The story is superb, a really cool idea and really catchy. Long movie, but definitely fills in it's shoes for that purpose. I have to give it to this movie. It's extremely ambitious and it does pull off what it set out to do. It's fun watching a movie go through forward time, backward time, backward time moving through forward time and forward time during backward time (yeah, I know, makes about as much sense as the movie). I wouldn't describe it was mind blowing, maybe it is to some people, to me it was just brain candy. This movie invents its own unique time travel paradoxes which I applaud. Also the name of the movie Tenet is a cute palindrome relating to the plot, clever. This is a movie that deserves a 2nd watch.. or 3rd... or pausing it every few minutes to ATTEMPT to understand what's going on. No matter how much I hated on this movie, the ending is brilliant and wraps up any confusion you have.... just kidding, but it does bring it all together! It's so good I can look past the massive black hole of plot holes it creates.

Hated: This entire movie is an extremely convoluted cluster fuck. All time travel movies are convoluted, but this one takes it to the next level. Now, I appreciate when movies take creative liberties on physics, reality, science etc... but this movie just doesn't make any sense really when it comes to the physics and time travel for that matter. Due to what it tries to achieve it creates a lot of inconsistencies. I feel like they may have been left in there, not as mistakes but for the purpose of making the movie actually watchable. If they made it more realistic I'm not sure a human brain could actually comprehend what is happening...

A long list of inconsistencies and plot breaking holes I noticed and the reasons I hated on the movie (MAJOR SPOILERS):
1. Why the FUCK does the future want to destroy the past... and/or the entire universe? Even if the grandfather paradox does not exist... what is their motive??? This is never explained.
2. Why the FUCK didn't the scientist who invented inversion just destroy the algorithm... why send it into the past, into nuclear facilities, to hide it?
3. How DID she hide it in the past... if she or someone took it into the past with inversion - how did they accomplish hiding it, how did they get out, or did they just continually travel backwards into infinity? Inversion wasn't invented, so I assume they were doomed.
4. How did the future contact Andrei in order to reassemble the algorithm? If it was hidden in the past, then there was no way to go back in time to retrieve it or contact Andrei.... I'm not even going to ask how an algorithm for time travel is stored within nuclear material...
5. How the fuck does the protagonist contact Singh the 2nd occasion in forward time after being inverted? Then everything continues in forward time after they went inverted... I guess they skip the scene where they go back through the turnstile, while in the past? He is 2 days behind future but travelling forward...(??)
6. It really pissed me off that the protagonist wants to save the girl (who he doesn't even love!!) at the possible cost of the destruction of the universe.... after being vetted by the government as such an elite operative tasked to save the universe at all costs...
7. Why do they only wear masks while outside in inversion, while travelling forward, then take it off? I assume the masks are because you can't breathe... (???) I was really confused about this one. (On the boat after talking to singh 2nd time)
and in the scene where the girl gets shot (time moving backwards) she screams in pain after being shot... which means she screamed in pain before being shot in that timeline which didn't make sense
8. Why do they never explain who these extra soldiers/operatives are who are aware of inversion and aid the protagonist and Neil???
9. Half way through the movie they seem to abandon the fact that inversion is inversion and converts to people who simply traveled backwards in time...
10. In the final battle, how does the Blue inverted strike team even know what their mission is if the world was destroyed before their mission??? To be travelling backwards to after destruction it assumes destruction never happened... !!?!?
11. How does Andrei know exactly when to call his goon while the Protagonist and Neil are at the gate and trying to destroy the algorithm after they had travelled to the past, and how did he know they would be trapped there?
12. Why did Volkov not shoot the protagonist immediately or vice versa, I did not see him lose his gun... ?? Instead waited for Andrei's order?
13. "I'll give your love to my wife"... "You're forgetting I haven't met her yet"... "after you meet her she dies"................ yes, you did... and no, you don't love her, and no she doesn't [email protected]?!?!?!?
14. I am completely fucking lost at this point. There seems to be an infinite paradox that collapses on itself. A fractal of time travel. Both forward and backward, at the same time, seemingly whenever it is convenient to continue the plot.
15. Kat kills Andrei knowing his heart rate monitor will destroy the world if it goes off....lol wtf? ("I couldn't let him think he won... I wanted to fuck him over knowing the universe would explode if I did..." wow what a fucking scornful bitch! LMAO! This action in fact makes her just as evil as Andrei!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
16. Andrei also had an inverted version of himself..... where did he go?!?!?!?!
17. Probably the #1 thing that doesn't make sense is inversion itself... because in the movie its only partial inversion, just enough to make it cool and watchable without actually ruining the idea of it being impossible. Inversion is a cool idea, but is just that... a cool idea. It doesn't make ANY sense how they implemented it into the movie. Again all the inversion scenes are only partial inversion when they should be full inversion... because inversion makes ZERO fucking sense in reality, especially the way they depict it.

This movie makes it possible for someone to both simultaneously travel backward and forward in time at the same time......................... yeah I've done a lot of acid but even that I can't fathom

Overall there is just too much forward, backward, forward while backward, backward while forward time travel simultaneously for any of this movie to make sense. When it's happening at the same time they seem to only focus on one, again I understand to make this movie even watchable, but it kinda ruins it for me.

I could have written many more things that bothered be, but honestly I was exhausted.

...IGNORANCE IS OUR AMMUNITION MY FRIEND (lol)

Huge props to the movie for quoting one of my favorite poems!! "How the world ends... not with a bang, but a whimper..."
 
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A really clever take on the genre. I think this movie should have got more attention. I really enjoyed it, great soundtrack, too. (Clint Mansell!)

There is a deeper meaning which isn't very obvious, see if you can find it. Take a step back from the micro and think about it from the macro, the basics of the story.
 
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Could have become the next 'Scream' or 'Urban Legend' but was an enjoyable little slasher at an underground EDM music festival. If anyone manages to catch it sometime, it's worth the watch.
 

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A really clever take on the genre. I think this movie should have got more attention. I really enjoyed it, great soundtrack, too. (Clint Mansell!)

There is a deeper meaning which isn't very obvious, see if you can find it. Take a step back from the micro and think about it from the macro, the basics of the story.
When I was in high school this movie had just come out, and I took an elective reading class about sci-fi; my teacher bought Moon on dvd and showed it to us, first time I'd seen it. Great film. Another teacher showed us Doctor Strangelove that same year, but I was already balls deep in a Kubrick kick by then.
 

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Opera (1987)

Another Dario Argento giallo horror flick. This one was even worse than Deep Red plot wise, though I've noticed Argento's films tend not to be very plot centric but instead very visually exciting. His mastery of camera movement, scene transitions, set creation is all on display in this film. It was gorgeous...

But then there was the plot/dubbing/acting/soundtrack, which to be quite frank, ruined the film for me. At random times 80s metal music starts playing which is very out of place in this movie.

If you ever saw Perfect Blue (1997) it's pretty much the same plot, but Perfect Blue was a better execution (albeit, animated).

4/10 (for aesthetic reasons; otherwise a 2/10, as I barely kept myself from turning it off)
 

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Chaos Walking. SO GOOD. Going to read the books now. It’s my idea of a romantic movie that I think both sexes can enjoy despite the feminist overtones. Could have had less animal killing though... I’m genuinely impressed by Spider-Man and Ray’s performance. Alternate title “what’s a guy got to do to get a kiss these days?!” 10/10 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
 

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Opera (1987)

Another Dario Argento giallo horror flick. This one was even worse than Deep Red plot wise, though I've noticed Argento's films tend not to be very plot centric but instead very visually exciting. His mastery of camera movement, scene transitions, set creation is all on display in this film. It was gorgeous...

But then there was the plot/dubbing/acting/soundtrack, which to be quite frank, ruined the film for me. At random times 80s metal music starts playing which is very out of place in this movie.

If you ever saw Perfect Blue (1997) it's pretty much the same plot, but Perfect Blue was a better execution (albeit, animated).

4/10 (for aesthetic reasons; otherwise a 2/10, as I barely kept myself from turning it off)
Big fan of Argento’s work - some films are hit and miss but his style is amazing.
 

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This could have been a decent flick about the dark web and everything but ended up meh.
 
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