That sounds like meh for sure. lolGot some serious Meh-DMA yesterday. The crystals were clear and looked exactly like the crystal methamphetamine I bought a few weeks before. Almost wished it was meth. Meth is many folds more magical and empathogenic than that Meh stuff that was ,at a staggerind dose of 300 mgs, just a weak, long drawn out empty shell of a distant memory of a roll. An experience so hollow and insipid I dont remember what I did while on it. I think I was just sitting on my bed staring at the wall for the entire night with a mind so blanc and empty I could have been in a coma and it would have been the same experience. No energy but also couldnt sleep. No real comedown ( i mean yo have to at least go up a bit to come down ). Just an annoying fever like body overheating feeling that almost remind me of the glorious piperazine years. Almost miss the meth-bombs of the early 2000,s. How spoiled were we to complain about some meth in our pills... But again, how could we even in our wildest dreams predict the twisted turn we find ourselves in right now that the actual real product is worse than the adulterated copy cats.
This statement confused me at first, but then I realised it was possibly a misuse of the word 'opaque'. I see this quite a lot and can cause confusion. So to clarify:Mostly whitish crystals with a yellowish tinge, and much LESS see-through as a lot of this meh shit tends to be. (Just observations, not saying opaque cant be good, as i know it can. Proved recently with that roll.)
Thanks I definitely messed that up. Looking at your description, the crystal is definitely more on the Translucent/opaque spectrum than "transparent" Very pretty stuff. It even glistens in the light. You cant see through it nearly as well as some previous batches. But you can just a tad. Hope that helps.This statement confused me at first, but then I realised it was possibly a misuse of the word 'opaque'. I see this quite a lot and can cause confusion. So to clarify:
Transparent = see through
Translucent = semi see through
Opaque = not see through
The glass in bathroom windows is often (wrongly) called 'opaque', when in fact it is actually 'translucent'.
Just wanted to point this out so that we're all on the same page when describing our crystal
I would say a very definite yes to all of that, but I'll have another go - probably wednesday, and be super diligent to make sure.are you making sure that the solvent level is below the spots when the plate is in the jar? the solvent front is showing a lot of absorbtion at 254 and neither of those solvents, once dried should be showing any absorbance across the top solvent front. is the developing jar clean?
I'm getting the solvents from a chemical supplier and they claim 99.9% pure, etc... Will try what you suggest if nothing improves.the other possibility is that there are acidic components in the solvent which are making a salt from the freebase, the salt will hardly move in these solvent systems. this can be fixed by either adding a few drops of ammonia to the solvent or adding a few drops of triethylamine or by using purer solvents, and making sure you have freebase.
this is a good guide with troubleshooting TLC
there are several documented TLC procedures specifically for amphetamine type compounds, system 2 in this paper is far more complex than one would think is needed but it is is dioxane, methanol, chloroform, aqueous ammonia. the dioxane is probably there to allow the aqueous ammonia to mix with the non polar components. but 95% methanol 5% concentrated aqueous ammonia would probably work fine. As would 99 % acetone 1% conc aq. ammonia. Dioxane is a peroxide forming solvent and has long been suspected to be carcinogenic.I would say a very definite yes to all of that, but I'll have another go - probably wednesday, and be super diligent to make sure.
I'm getting the solvents from a chemical supplier and they claim 99.9% pure, etc... Will try what you suggest if nothing improves.
If you mean I kind of shaking and spasming like up and down or rather open and closed, with visible muscle reflexes and spasms visible in the cheeks and jawline, then yes absolutely. Of all the physiological effects, signs and cues, that particular one for me was the most magical and coincided with the best pills and most intense level of amazing magical euphoria in the experience.Has anyone noticed variation in jaw clenching vs. jaw trembling/vibrating?
The last batch i took, which was as close to a magic roll as ive had in a long time. Flashed green first, then black. Smoked too. That was GOOD SHIT. Matches what the original theory of a mandelin test may do if it were magic. Batch #4 matches my mandelin test. I think you are holding something fire.I
I find the combination of these elements interesting. Surely the smoking/bubbling is indicative of something, and the flash of green seems significant as well. Other people who have observed Mandelin reactions: have you noted smoking or bubbling?
^ being forgetful has always been a side-effect of good mdma in my opinion, but my partner agrees the meh shit has a more "memory erasing" property to it. Forgetfulness is more pronounced on meh in my experiences as well.In other news...
I made an impulsive decision over the weekend and consumed some MDMA. In previous post, this is referenced as sample 3. I had done it about 3 months ago. I was planning to abstain all the way through until NYE, and that would have been a better call for the experiment's sake. But, I was at an event and with friends, and wanted to have a good time. Shrug. It is what it is. Not a lot new to note, really. My results were basically the same as they were the last time I tried this product. I had eaten recently, so onset was delayed. The only thing I really noticed that I wanted feedback on was what was going on with my jaw. I am familiar with jaw clenching. However, jaw trembling/vibrating is a bit different. I thought the sensation was odd, and not one that I typically get. Has anyone noticed variation in jaw clenching vs. jaw trembling/vibrating?
Took 150 mg @ 11:38 pm (had eaten a large meal around 8:30 pm)
Started to come up @ 1:08 am
Peak from first dose @1:39 am
85 mg re-dose @ 2:15 am
Feeling re-dose @ 3:05 am
Took note of jaw vibrations @ 3:05 am
Took a 2nd 85 mg re-dose @ 4:30 am
Stayed awake until 7 am. Talked to friends off and on basically the whole time and laid around. No opportunity for sex, because my partner crashed right after I started partying. Music did not seem enhanced. No euphoria to note. Forgetfulness was a big problem. I must have lost my train of thought a million times. Not an issue I usually notice, but I am also usually not talking so much. I had to keep asking my friends what I was talking about. Went right to sleep at 7 am with no issue. Slept till 4 pm. Had a great night the next evening, and have had no significant comedown issues other than some minor nausea here and there.
Overall, this was a decent "meh" product, all things considered. It did not really make me sick like the other samples I have had access to. Easy to sleep afterwards. I have no way to access this stuff again, and I don't have enough left to send in to a lab, but at least I saved enough for the Mandelin tests that I posted about.