Gnostic Bishop, you are really hijacking this thread to push your Jesus-centric view of the universe.
How you can't see the hypocrisy in your own statement here is mindboggling. Presumably, you believe that you know Jesus is real. I haven't really seen anyone else in this thread, even the other Jesus-believers, try to shut down discussion of any alternate viewpoint whatsoever in the way you keep trying to. In actual fact I haven't even seen anyone being obnoxiously insistent about the absolute objective reality of their own interpretation of reality except for yourself.
Also, this isn't the "religious section" of the site, the forum title is "Philosophy and Spirituality", religion obviously can fall under this umbrella, although not always. Religion, usually, is a form of spirituality with it's own somewhat unique philosophies about the nature of the world, but religious dogmatism is often a pretty unwelcome addition to any serious philosophical discussion because everything begins and ends with "this is the irrefutable word of [insert chosen god or religious figure], if you don't agree, suck it."
Do you think that Jesus would approve of this kind of childish namecalling? I would think not, but perhaps I just don't know Jesus like you do!